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    Noise+Technology=Music noistek's Avatar
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    Thumbs up Lookout FS & Serato!...

    As one of DC's few jungle producers that use vinyl/laptop interfaces in his live sets- I feel it's my duty to introduce a new kid on da block...A new, big, deformed, powerhouse of a kid called Conectiv by M-Audio featuring Torq DJ software and time coded vinyl.
    M-Audio’s Conectiv w/control Vinyl/CDs ad Torq Dj software…
    I got it as an early Christmas gift and hadn't opened the box yet.
    Well yesterday, I finally decided to get this thing hooked up, installed and running so I can get started on customizing a set for the Digital Conspiracy Takeover or Antics @Club Hell, December 28th, $5! (hint-hint)
    First off, let me say installation was super simple. The hardware seems pretty damn sturdy and non-intrusive in a DJ set-up.
    The hardware also only takes up 2 line inputs in the DJ Mixer (Finals Scratch and Serato take up both two phono and two line jacks). You just plug the tables into the hardware's inputs and plug the hardware's outs into your mixer line inputs. (This leaves your phono ins open- for 2 more turntables if need be).
    This also makes it less of a mess for a DJ who arrives DURING a show and has to come on after a traditional DJ's set.
    The software is very straight forward. And while I DID have some trouble with it crashing at first- once I defragged, cleaned disc, and checked drive for errors, (which I hadn’t done in like forever!) the thing worked just fine.
    The interface is so PURELY specialized for DJs. EVERYTHING about it.
    Just to recap...the whole thing works just like FS or Serato. Two time-coded vinyl records send tracking info to the software which plays back mp3/wav/aif files based on the position of the needle on the special records. The software's output is thru the hardware which is plugged into the DJ mixer.
    Where Torq starts kicking butt is at the extras. Not only do you get two records which (unlike FS) are identical on both sides (so you get 4 records! Each at 33rpms)- you also get pre-amplification on the phono inputs and an output louder than any FS/Serato device.
    Ground wires on the hardware.
    And the GUI is a MONSTER!
    The skinable GUI comes with two virtual decks...a whole slew of different Modes that the system can run on...crazy shit like being able to mix 2 virtual decks and two records at the same time; or the ability to mimic a CDJ1000's functions for example.
    Torq also has a 16 cell sampler! The sampler’s 16 sample trigger buttons can be assigned to a midi controller for live action!
    The virtual decks each contain built-in effects. 8 of them. With 3 effects slots (3 f/x can be used at a time for each deck)
    the parameters for these f/x can be set to & controlled by midi as well. AND each of the f/x are DJ/dance music oriented...like strobe (transformer switch)- flanger- beat repeater- echoes- a wicked deck stop effect- reverse...shit's sick.
    On top of that- you can also load a vst effect up on the thing (1 per deck)...the effects, (vst or otherwise), effect the virtual deck or the artist's records you're playing. 1 particularly expressive parameter of the vst can be set (thru Torq) and controlled by midi. If the plug-in itself has midi-learn/assign functions- then that devices parameters can also be controlled via midi (bypassing Torq).
    All effects are synced to tempo (a tap tempo is available).
    There's quick cue points (markers) you can lay down in a song to skip to at the push of a button (all parameters in Torq are midi assignable), quick loop points for instant beat looping (separate from effects) with various lengths. Again, all are assignable to a controller.
    Torq also has a built in recording module that can record everything in hi-Q and save it to your computer.
    The software is even Rewire compatible and can be rewired (slave) thru Host apps like Ableton Live or ProTools. (i.e. Deck 1- channel 1/2; deck 2- channel 3/4, etc.)
    The hardware even functions alone as a audio interface for other applications. It also has it's own cue functions and mic input.
    One thing's for sure- this is one hell of a competitor for Serato and FS. Time will tell of course as to whether or not stability is a factor. So far, so good. And if that checks out OK- consider it curtains for the much pricier, less featured Serato and Final Scratch systems.
    At just $299, any DJs with a laptop and tables at home that do not buy this is out of their mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noistek
    As one of DC's few jungle producers that use vinyl/laptop interfaces in his live sets- I
    Thanks for the review. Can you comment on differences in latency and feel between the M-Audio version and FS/Serato (on the same computer setup, of course) What are some key differences in feature/function? How about sound quality? You sound like you have used all three.

    Also, there are quite a few local dn'b dj's that use FS or Serato:

    Ill Effect
    Shade
    Psykofly
    Ken-ohki
    Heider?
    GrimmReeper
    Quannum Logic
    Jessi Tittsworth
    Signal?
    The Logic Theorist
    myself

    I know there are more, I just can't think of who right now. Seems to be pretty popular with local dnb djs, actually.

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    Firstly, about the "few DJs using FS/Serato thing"- I merely meant those that I have observed using it LIVE exclussively...as apposed to CDJs... If I underestimate, my apologies.
    Ummm... I havn't used Serato...but have used FS for years. We have a love/hate relationship...LOL
    I'll cover the differences in order (so to speak)...
    OK, the set-up.
    With FS/Serato, there's the need to plug the tables into the hardware then the hardware's "tables out" into the phono ins on the dj mixer; AND the line outs from the hardware to the line ins on the dj mixer.
    With Conectiv- you merely plug the tables into the hardware and the hardware's line outs into the line ins on the mixer.
    The Torq software fires right up. No need to wait for the needles to be calibrated. load a song (drag and drop- no right clicking) into the propper deck, and you're off!
    Handle and feel so far is identical to FS 1.5 or higher. And the "feel" is even adjustable. So is the cpu usage. There's an economy function for slow comps or if your laptop's having issues and you want to be cautious.
    Having those effects and plug-in capabilities is a great way to bump up ones show as well. You can literally remix a tune right then and there...live!
    had 1 too many?..Missed your cue to start in with the next tune?...No problem...loop the end beat on the tune that's playing now....re-cue your next one...no harm no fowl.
    It's bassically like having all the top CDJ capabilities right there plus some!
    Sound Q is clean...clean...clean. M-Audio dude! LOL
    AND LOUD!!! You definitely notice the strength of the audio coming out of this baby. Your mp3s sound more like vinyl plates with this I think. It just adds this umph that's missing in FS.

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    nice review. everythign i read so far is positive as well. could well be the FS/Serator killer.
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    Good review. You would suggest this over the other 2 programs?

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    ooPS...
    http://www.torq-dj.com/

    And yeah...I definitely would recommend this product over FS and Serato...the price point..the number of features/capabilities...it's so brand new that I can't say much for stability YET but...And ofcourse there's the "I got something a lot of you aint got" factor which when added to the above can certainly tip this over the edge I thinks...hehehe

    It's like having:
    FS/Serato
    +a CDJ1000
    +A Kaos Pad
    +A boss SP---sampler
    +a phono pre-amp
    +sum-mo-shit all in one!
    Last edited by noistek; 2006-12-18 at 04:21 PM.

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    I heard Serato 3.0 will actually have a vagina. :elad:

    Quote Originally Posted by noistek
    ooPS...
    http://www.torq-dj.com/

    And yeah...I definitely would recommend this product over FS and Serato...the price point..the number of features/capabilities...it's so brand new that I can't say much for stability YET but...And ofcourse there's the "I got something a lot of you aint got" factor which when added to the above can certainly tip this over the edge I thinks...hehehe

    It's like having:
    FS/Serato
    +a CDJ1000
    +A Kaos Pad
    +A boss SP---sampler
    +a phono pre-amp
    +sum-mo-shit all in one!

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    Nice one.

    Thanks man. I'll have to look into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jukata
    I heard Serato 3.0 will actually have a vagina. :elad:
    im waiting for 4.0 with the life like blow job action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jukata
    I heard Serato 3.0 will actually have a vagina. :elad:
    Oh?...well...hm....:pron:

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    is the vagina more stable on windows or mac OS.....

    Gonna have to see how it responds to vista
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    ur a nerd
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    Need Directions romy's Avatar
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    Oh I know it comes with a Fleshlight preinstalled :)
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    Apple! duh!!!

    no one wants a vagina with a virus or "popups" geeze, that's sick!

    Quote Originally Posted by romy
    is the vagina more stable on windows or mac OS.....

    Gonna have to see how it responds to vista

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