John B appreciation Thread

[lickquidL]

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[Alter-Ego]

no


dude do you sleep? how many random ass threads are you gonna start?

[lickquidL]

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[Simon]

John just made a DOPE DOPE DOPE Italo Disco mix for Redux this Sunday.


Tune in!

[Wicked Sway]

Ok am i the only one around here who could careless what the hell John B is doing. I havent listened to a John B tune for years, and could careless if I ever saw him play again. There I said it.

And another thing how the hell are you(LiquidL) gonna make a overrated thread and then make this thread. makes no damn sense at all. Fix up son.

[Signal]

yea. else pass the crack youre smokin, we all wanna hit it.

[scandal]

yea. else pass the crack youre smokin, we all wanna hit it.

:spliff:





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[maynard]

Ok am i the only one around here who could careless what the hell John B is doing.

i'm with you. fuck john b, seriously.

[Bassmachine]

:cracksmoker: dont forget to exhale dude

[Simon]

It's so funny you guys all take yourselves so seriously. Its not even a “meh, John’s not really my thing..” but rather a “I fucking hate John B”. At least he is doing something radically different with D&B. I'd argue, the only one doing anything radically different. It’s quite good, and actually fun.

D&B has reformulated it's self to this simplest possible equitation. The genre (like a few others) is suffocating its self with this proverbial rule book. There is this underlying notion that in order to be accepted as a D&B artist, you HAVE to sound like this…- and anyone who steps out side of that formula is ridiculed for it. The headliners are all playing the same 15 dubplates…. John is probably one of the busiest of the D&B guys in the world right now.

D&B is based on a beat structure, like breaks, like 4X4. Now there are sub genre’s of course but most do not very greatly from the others. D&B structures could become anything else they wanted to and influenced by any other genre in the world to become its own thing (Much like 4x4). I’d love to see D&B & Breaks continue to branch out and do new things! In the meantime- blah!

[lickquidL]

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[RickyRicardo]

I love how every argument over John B ultimatly goes back to how "creative" and "different" he is, as if that were an end unto itself.

Honestly, fuck difference....fuck creativity....just do something *well*. I'd much rather listen to a producer honing their craft and building on past material than someone who is constantly trying to reinvent themselves for the sake of being "different".

Being different and being good are not necessarily one in the same. You can be the most creative guy in the world, and still sound like ass on plastic.



....and for what it's worth, electro-dnb isn't *that* different. I can think of plenty of dnb tunes w/ heavy electro influences (and most of them sound better than John's stuff).

[yvonison]

I'd argue, the only one doing anything radically different.

What other dnb artists have u given an honest listen to before you made this assessment Simon? John B is different, but is it only radically different to you because he's doing something on the tip that you enjoy?

D&B has reformulated it's self to this simplest possible equitation. The genre (like a few others) is suffocating its self with this proverbial rule book. There is this underlying notion that in order to be accepted as a D&B artist, you HAVE to sound like this…- and anyone who steps out side of that formula is ridiculed for it. The headliners are all playing the same 15 dubplates…. John is probably one of the busiest of the D&B guys in the world right now.

I can't disagree with you more on all of this, DNB is so across the board right now whether it's John B, Evol Intent, Calibre, Pendulum, Logistics... just to name a FEW. I've got lots of respect and love for John as an artist and friend, but dont want anyone to get the false impression that he's one of the busiest of the D&B guys in the world right now, because he honestly isn't. There's a multi-person selection of headliners as well, and if they were all playing the same 15 dubplates then things just wouldnt be working out for us on any level. If there's anywhere in the world that's in a lull right now within the D&B industry it's probably America in terms of crowd turnouts for events but that's it. Love them or hate them, Pendulum is doing something "different".

[scandal]

It's so funny you guys all take yourselves so seriously. Its not even a “meh, John’s not really my thing..” but rather a “I fucking hate John B”. At least he is doing something radically different with D&B. I'd argue, the only one doing anything radically different. It’s quite good, and actually fun.

D&B has reformulated it's self to this simplest possible equitation. The genre (like a few others) is suffocating its self with this proverbial rule book. There is this underlying notion that in order to be accepted as a D&B artist, you HAVE to sound like this…- and anyone who steps out side of that formula is ridiculed for it. The headliners are all playing the same 15 dubplates…. John is probably one of the busiest of the D&B guys in the world right now.

D&B is based on a beat structure, like breaks, like 4X4. Now there are sub genre’s of course but most do not very greatly from the others. D&B structures could become anything else they wanted to and influenced by any other genre in the world to become its own thing (Much like 4x4). I’d love to see D&B & Breaks continue to branch out and do new things! In the meantime- blah!

I couldn't agree with you more...

The biggest problem I am running into with my own productions is fear. Fear that I will be shunned as a DNB artist due to the fact that I don't write tunes that sound like "this" so to speak...

That's why I fooking love Fresh's new album, because it's not like anything I've ever heard before, and that's what excites me about the genre the most. Any genre for that matter!

[yvonison]

The biggest problem I am running into with my own productions is fear. Fear that I will be shunned as a DNB artist due to the fact that I don't write tunes that sound like "this" so to speak...

Why give a fuck what anyone thinks? If it's good people will respect it... some shit isn't my cup of tea but if it's quality it's quality and you give people their due props.

Fear is a personal problem.