the scene has become saturated with carbon copy dj's

[quantum]

how did every dj get the same record, and rinse it the same way, every time? what happened to the nights when you would actually hear leftfield, trip hop and (OMFG) JUNGLE?!?

i just dont get turned on anymore when I hear the same anthems risned the same way, everywhere I go, anywhere in the US.

the mixing formula needs to die as well. Bringing in the beat on the same count gets tired. and no one double drops anymore.

DJ's, check yourself and take a look at why you mix and collect vinyl. You can say its "all about the music" but your mix tells the truth.

[DJInergy]

How often do you come out? People like Deinfamous, Illeffect and Godfather Sage do shit like this all the time at Cubik, at Japone, on EXBC, and just about everywhere else they play.

And what do someone's mixing abilities have to do with how passionate they are about their music? I know people that live, eat, sleep and breathe jungle but couldn't mix soap with water.

[joenice]

how did every dj get the same record, and rinse it the same way, every time? what happened to the nights when you would actually hear leftfield, trip hop and (OMFG) JUNGLE?!?

i just dont get turned on anymore when I hear the same anthems risned the same way, everywhere I go, anywhere in the US.

the mixing formula needs to die as well. Bringing in the beat on the same count gets tired. and no one double drops anymore.

DJ's, check yourself and take a look at why you mix and collect vinyl. You can say its "all about the music" but your mix tells the truth.

Originality is a necessity.

this is exactly why i do what i do.

[DJInergy]

Originality is a necessity.

this is exactly why i do what i do.

:werd:
MAD respect for Joe Nice, for pushing the limits on the dubstep sound.

[quantum]

How often do you come out? People like Deinfamous, Illeffect and Godfather Sage do shit like this all the time at Cubik, at Japone, on EXBC, and just about everywhere else they play.

And what do someone's mixing abilities have to do with how passionate they are about their music? I know people that live, eat, sleep and breathe jungle but couldn't mix soap with water.

passion and talent arent related, but the next person who mixes "tarantula" im going to jump over the tables and choke with my bare hands.

[shade]

How often do you come out? People do shit like this all the time on EXBC, and just about everywhere else they play.

:spliff:


:werd:

[DJInergy]

passion and talent arent related, but the next person who mixes "tarantula" im going to jump over the tables and choke with my bare hands.

:spit:
Ok, now that's funny.

Seriously though... I do agree that there are a LOT of people out there who aren't pushing boundaries. I don't see it as a bad thing, necessarily... I mean, if you love whatever form of dnb and you love mixing but you're simply not blessed with any kind of DJing abilities, it's not a crime to buy decks and vinyl and do what you love. I say more power to em.

Then of course, I find myself reminiscing of Starscape a few years ago... I think 'Twist EM Out' was played by 5 different dnb DJs, and rewound 3 times...

[joenice]

:werd:
MAD respect for Joe Nice, for pushing the limits on the dubstep sound.

big up man...thanks !

how did every dj get the same record, and rinse it the same way, every time? what happened to the nights when you would actually hear leftfield, trip hop and (OMFG) JUNGLE?!?

I agree with you. there needs to be more music. it cant be all about breaks, house and d&b. there's more to life than chocolate, vanilla and strawberry ice cream...the same can be said for the music.

If there was a dj that decided to take the risk to play gabber in this area (balt / dc), i think people would jump on it. i'm not sure why...i just have that feeling.

that's really the main reason as to why i not only push my sound....but i push other sounds that i think are fresh and interesting. There have been loads of people that have downloaded DanGee & JohnAsk's mix from Sonar....it's dub and you dont always hear that all the time.

FWIW - Shade's "Circadian Rhythm" mix, DanGee & JohnAsk's dub set and Godfather Sage's 2 disc mashup @ Sonar are the three best mixes i've heard all year. Give them a listen...you'll hear why.

[Jungle Jessi]

no offense man, but complaining about it really isn't gonna do anything.

i've met you before, and you seem like a really cool cat whos into cool music, so this isn't meant to be an attack, or anything. just some advice.

think about it.....no one is EVER gonna read a thread like this and be like "your right. i mix music like a tool. from this day forth i will never again play any top 40 crap." a thread like this won't change anything. it will just start more fighting and bickering, and if thats what your going for then cool. but if your trying to change things, then you need to do it yourself. or start a thread looking for creative people.....don't just bitch about how there are none out there. we both know thats horseshit.

[quantum]

no offense man, but complaining about it really isn't gonna do anything.

i've met you before, and you seem like a really cool cat whos into cool music, so this isn't meant to be an attack, or anything. just some advice.

think about it.....no one is EVER gonna read a thread like this and be like "your right. i mix music like a tool. from this day forth i will never again play any top 40 crap." a thread like this won't change anything. it will just start more fighting and bickering, and if thats what your going for then cool. but if your trying to change things, then you need to do it yourself. or start a thread looking for creative people.....don't just bitch about how there are none out there. we both know thats horseshit.

i do my part by seeking out sounds that are different. Ive been pushing the raggacore/noise/hardcore/gabber sounds just because im fucking sick of the fact that every dj's bin carries the same tunes.

you know what ive found? the crowd loves it, other dj's hate it. the point in creating this post was to rinse out some frustration, and call attention to the fact that way to many DJ's are being booked for the wrong reasons. politics and business shouldnt overshadow the root of why we are here as collective music lovers.

if I could ask for anything from this thread, it isnt to call people out, but raise awareness to the stale and repetetive state of *most* club nights. Have higher expectations of your dj's, their track selection, their mixes. We know about the music, we bring it to the masses. define your scene your own way, make your town/crew/team distinct and different from the one down the road. raise the standards! theres more places to find good vinyl than the two or three records stores 90% of the DJ's buy their shit from.

[The Jezereck]

the guys is from central PA, nuff said

[quantum]

the guys is from central PA, nuff said

actually im from hawaii, but I happen to live in a great spot with some thorough people and a solid scene. nuff said.

[thermo_Us Crew]

cry me a river mofos

[Winterman]

drum & bass is dead. The next trend is gonna be emostep, mixed with a side of gabberrave and trancehop. Who puts the "ass" in drum and bass? Is it about fishing why don't they call it drum & scrod? why are all these glowstick ravers looking at me when I spin records, maybe I should become a breaks Dj? I'll never get it... :doh:

Opinions are like assholes or whatever....

[The Jezereck]

actually im from hawaii, but I happen to live in a great spot with some thorough people and a solid scene. nuff said.

if thats the case, then what are you complaining about?