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    A slightly ignorant quick question about recording

    I have always followed the 16-bit 44,100hz Stereo way.

    If you have a 24-bit sound card what settings do you record @ ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by | Bass Drop | View Post
    I have always followed the 16-bit 44,100hz Stereo way.

    If you have a 24-bit sound card what settings do you record @ ?
    generally you want to record to the highest bit rate, but keep in mind, Redbook CD Standard is 16-bit 44.1khz Stereo Interleaved, so you will eventually down convert if you plan on burning to CD.

    what are you recording? I can tell you more specifically if I know what you are trying to record.
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    A 79:xx DJ set that will be handed out on CD.

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    I always record at 24/96 if I can and dither down as necessary.
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    If I do that Aaron, (in short) what steps do I need to do after that (as far as preparation for tracking and buring to CD?) I thought regardless of the original bitrate, while burning/converting to .cda it auto coverts it to 160kbps

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    Quote Originally Posted by | Bass Drop | View Post
    A 79:xx DJ set that will be handed out on CD.

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    DJM-600
    Soundblaster Audigy laptop card
    How are you getting from the DJM to the laptop? It's great that your sound card supports it, but does your mixer? And the cables? (I don't know the answers of if that matters)

    Furthermore -- what's the max quality for vinyl? CDs obviously are at 16-bit so your source CDs won't sound better if you record them at 24-bit.







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    Quote Originally Posted by | Bass Drop | View Post
    A 79:xx DJ set that will be handed out on CD.

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    1 CDJ-200
    DJM-600
    Soundblaster Audigy laptop card
    what are you recording in? Soundforge? Wavelab? A Wax Cylinder?
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    I use 24bit recording but still 44.1 for the sampling rate.

    Edit: I didn't realize this was for recording a set (and I am guessing the cdjs are hooked up analog rather than digital as the turntables are)...I'm not sure how much of a difference the bit depth would make, but I figure the sampling rate would be good to go with the highest.

    And as someone already said, if you burn this to a cd it's just going to go down to 16bit 44.1 anyway.
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    People have sent me WAVs at 44.8 or 48 or something, and they were obnoxiously huge.







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    Quote Originally Posted by | Bass Drop | View Post
    If I do that Aaron, (in short) what steps do I need to do after that (as far as preparation for tracking and buring to CD?) I thought regardless of the original bitrate, while burning/converting to .cda it auto coverts it to 160kbps
    No. Burning to disc will dither down the quality to 16/44.1, usually automatically. Record your mix in the highest quality possible, trackmark/track split (as necessary) and burn as you normally would. If there's an option for dithering, select it. Unless it's an MP3 disc, it'll never be 160Kbps.
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    I record everything at 24/96 and dither down as appropriate. You always want to record at a higher rate when possible, even if your source material is lower (16/44.1) because you have to account for noise inherent in the mixer, etc. Your digital source material becomes analog once it leaves the CD players and some of the signal you record up is the warmth (or noise) added by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amitai View Post
    People have sent me WAVs at 44.8 or 48 or something, and they were obnoxiously huge.
    Losers like myself who spend all of our time in the studio can notice a difference between a 24/48 and a 16/44.1. The trade off is lack of a social life and a lowered sense of self-worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perpetuum View Post
    Losers like myself who spend all of our time in the studio can notice a difference between a 24/48 and a 16/44.1. The trade off is lack of a social life and a lowered sense of self-worth.
    But the real question is: can you look at a waveform and tell what genre it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robhyx View Post
    But the real question is: can you look at a waveform and tell what genre it is?
    Yes. If it looks like a Tetris piece with two small gaps of silence where the breakdowns are, it's skullstep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quannum Logic View Post
    what are you recording in? Soundforge? Wavelab? A Wax Cylinder?
    Sound Forge 9

    Quote Originally Posted by amitai View Post
    How are you getting from the DJM to the laptop? It's great that your sound card supports it, but does your mixer? And the cables? (I don't know the answers of if that matters)
    RCA to 1/8th " jack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perpetuum View Post
    No. Burning to disc will dither down the quality to 16/44.1, usually automatically. Record your mix in the highest quality possible, trackmark/track split (as necessary) and burn as you normally would. If there's an option for dithering, select it. Unless it's an MP3 disc, it'll never be 160Kbps.
    I think I meant 128Kbps?

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