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DLWman0322
2007-10-10, 12:52 AM
"This year DJ Mag has been appalled and disgusted to discover suspicious voting irregularities in their Top 100 DJs poll.
For the first time ever, now that DJmag is wholly independent again, the votes in this year’s poll have been collated in-house, and while in previous years we’ve relied on technology to weed out suspect votes, this year it’s been proved that there’s nothing more effective than the naked eye.

With 345,000 votes cast by email, publisher James Robertson has spent a ridiculous number of man-hours going through each vote. His discoveries have resulted in several DJs being disqualified from this year’s poll.

Roberston explained: “This year, I made a decision to investigate votes where the same IP address appeared over 50 times for the same person. The chances of the same person getting voted for by 50 different computers each having been allocated the same IP address within a week would be billions to one.” The biggest DJs at the centre of our investigation were US stars Christopher Lawrence and DJ Dan. Both shared the same marketing manager.

“In both their cases, a script was used to bypass our security system,” said Roberston. “Not only did we get multiple votes from the same IP address, but we got multiple votes from multiple IP addresses — in other words, we received in excess of 50 votes from the same IP address on over 20 occasions. Both Lawrence and Dan vehemently denied any involvement in vote rigging. “I take this matter very seriously,” said DJ Dan. “My assistant and I confronted my former marketing manager via telephone. He strongly denied any wrongdoing, but had no credible explanation for the improper voting. Christopher Lawrence, who used the same marketing person this year, reported similar voting problems. When I discovered the common link was our marketing person, I immediately terminated him.” Lawrence’s lawyer Kent Liu said: “My clients are willing to declare under oath that they themselves did not purchase or use a script, nor did they instruct any person in their employ to do so.

”Chinese cheat DJ Tiesmi admitted paying cash for votes. “Tiesmi explained to me that it cost 4000 Yuan (£260) for 100,000 votes. He had paid a software engineer to create a script to by-pass our security code,” said Roberston. “However, it became apparent very quickly that Tiesmi was cheating when he raced to the No.1 spot within hours of the voting starting. “His friend Yutise, who seemed to appear on the same bill as Tiesmi, as the second DJ, was also investigated. He explained that it was not him cheating, but his crazed fans who he had no control over,” said Robertson. “It’s funny though that the world’s biggest DJs, like PvD and Tiësto, don’t seem to have such problems.”

More voting irregularities surround the Flash Brothers from Israel — we detected over 1300 votes from the same IP address.
They blamed “friends and family”. In a statement to DJmag, they said: “It appears that some of our friends and family simply wanted to surprise us at all costs and help our cause. We certainly do not condone such behaviour. We feel very distraught about this whole affair. We accept full responsibility for this affair but are quite adamant it boils down to sheer stupidity and oversight.” Hong Kong DJ Erick Junior has been dubbed “the fastest cheat in the East” after a four-day avalanche of votes saw him shoot to third position in the poll. Like the others, he has been disqualified.
DJmag Editor Lesley Wright commented: “It’s outrageous that DJs should attempt to cheat. It shows a blatant disregard for the Top 100 poll, for DJ Magazine and, most importantly, for their fellow DJs. Shame on them.” "

CharlesM
2007-10-10, 01:38 AM
I'm number 1 no need for voting.

well thats what my software engineer told me

slim pickinz
2007-10-10, 01:53 AM
i mean now this? i understand george bush cheating, no one actually likes him, but djs that fill rooms everywhere?

kindofblue272
2007-10-10, 01:53 AM
Lol. I like how DJ Tiesmi just straight up admits it.

Jay Selway
2007-10-10, 01:54 AM
Well this is great. The main supporter of my music rocked by a huge scandal.

*sigh*

john c
2007-10-10, 01:55 AM
this is UNREAL and good news. to me it was VERY obvious that somehting was suspicious last yr with Chris LAwrence and DJ dan being #4 and #5 when they are not that well known internationaly. Flash brothers was also a huge surprise. SO was some random psytrance groups that nobody knows of that cracked the top 50. Its quite obvious the list a joke and a total farce. But wow! its good news because finally people wont relate to this bullshit like its some bible of clubbing

Jay Selway
2007-10-10, 02:08 AM
Source?

Jay Selway
2007-10-10, 02:14 AM
Nothing on the DJ Mag website.

john c
2007-10-10, 02:15 AM
wait ya whats the source? is this a joke?

| Bass Drop |
2007-10-10, 09:39 AM
lol I hope it is cuz CL & Dan are in my top 5 DJ's of all time....

Andy C
PVD
Scott Henry

Funshine
2007-10-10, 09:41 AM
lol I hope it is cuz CL & Dan are in my top 5 DJ's of all time....

Andy C
PVD
Scott Henry
I <3 Scott Henry. He's my favourite ever.

Shawn_E
2007-10-10, 09:44 AM
wait ya whats the source? is this a joke?


I feel i am being leveled here.

Rican
2007-10-10, 09:52 AM
found this but don't know how reliable it is:

http://forum.djmag.com/viewtopic.php?p=69160&sid=6dbc7b727f8beac4419fd5213165f11e

While most people play fair and we have no problem with DJs canvassing for your votes, we've been staggered by the lengths some will go to in a desperate bid to gain a coveted spot in the Top 100 poll. But be warned - we always catch cheats. Already this year we've disqualified a few poll wannabes whom we may well 'name and shame' once voting is over.

john v blowme
2007-10-10, 09:53 AM
http://www.uktrancealliance.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35056

DJ ZeroAlpha
2007-10-10, 10:03 AM
:lol:

dubsteptim
2007-10-10, 10:07 AM
wowee

john c
2007-10-10, 10:07 AM
hmmm
still all from forums. why cant we find this on the main page of the dj mag site?
also nothing about it on christopher lawrence or dj dan's pages

Cortex
2007-10-10, 10:15 AM
I've read this on many forums as well. Apparently DJ Mag will have an official announcement when the full list is unveiled.

Funshine
2007-10-10, 10:20 AM
http://www.uktrancealliance.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35056
Meh.. I find it very interesting that the magazine article they have linked up isn't hosted by the djmag... it's by Cellection Music?

Or not so interesting. I'm sure DJ Mag will step forward at some point with a full list/details.

Shawn_E
2007-10-10, 10:20 AM
:ohnoes: *Please don't catch me, please don't catch me*

empath
2007-10-10, 10:28 AM
I find it strange that its all non-UK DJ's. I think it's fake.

MURAMASA
2007-10-10, 10:31 AM
Given the retarded amount of cheating people have tried to pull off just for our local voting, I think it's very possible these guys had nothing to do with this mess.

Kif
2007-10-10, 10:31 AM
huge scandal

:ohnoes:


:hilarious:

Funshine
2007-10-10, 10:32 AM
Given the retarded amount of cheating people have tried to pull off just for our local voting, I think it's very possible these guys had nothing to do with this mess.
I'd even dare go so far as to say it's... probable :ohnoes:

john c
2007-10-10, 10:50 AM
:ohnoes:


:hilarious:

ummm if its true then its certainly a big scandal for the djs involved as it will impact their careers. and since Jay is on Chris Lawrence's label, then his concern is valid. Just cause you have no stake in this doesn't mean you should be mocking others who might be influenced by it.

MarkyMark
2007-10-10, 10:53 AM
I voted Christopher Lawrence #1 in my ballot. Will they keep the rest of my lineup?

Thai
2007-10-10, 11:02 AM
http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=story&story_op=display&story_id=1017&status=Live&type=news

john c
2007-10-10, 11:02 AM
wow so its official. THanks for the link Thai!

Kif
2007-10-10, 11:07 AM
ummm if its true then its certainly a big scandal for the djs involved as it will impact their careers. and since Jay is on Chris Lawrence's label, then his concern is valid. Just cause you have no stake in this doesn't mean you should be mocking others who might be influenced by it.
calling a rigged magazine contest for the most popular dj a huge scandal to me is pretty fucking laughable...and i seriously doubt this is going to tear their careers apart

:ohnoes:x2



:ohnoes:
:ohnoes::ohnoes:

| Bass Drop |
2007-10-10, 11:25 AM
calling a rigged magazine contest for the most popular dj a huge scandal to me is pretty fucking laughable...and i seriously doubt this is going to tear their careers apart


I tend to agree. They are solid names and have been putting in work for a looong time and will still get most of, if not all of their bookings. I doubt the fans will care much, if at all. I dont.

Other well known DJ's however, might give em some shit about it though.

Maybe Djmag will do more investigating? I doubt it though since they already released a statement finding both artists guilty.

john c
2007-10-10, 11:32 AM
abroad, in places like China, the clubs are owned by businessmen who have absolutely no idea on the scene and book soley based on charts and polls. The DJ Mag 100 unfortunately is a very big (if the not the biggest) deciding factor in who gets booked and how much they get paid in many areas around the world. Think about it, there's a reason why all the DJs go to extreme lengths to get themselves as high as possible on the list: because it matters. Its really really stupid but this list influences much more than meets the eye.

one can only hope something puts a dagger in this damn list because booking Djs based on a rigged list is retarded.

Jay Selway
2007-10-11, 02:52 PM
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Jay Selway
2007-10-11, 02:54 PM
calling a rigged magazine contest for the most popular dj a huge scandal to me is pretty fucking laughable...and i seriously doubt this is going to tear their careers apart

Considering I have unreleased remixes of tunes done by Christopher Lawrence which are slotted for release on Pharmacy Music, my concern is totally valid. Do I want to be releasing music on a label ran by a guy who is getting such bad press right now? I like Christopher alot, but I don't condone cheating - even if it's in a fucking whackass mega popularity contest.

Unfeign
2007-10-16, 09:29 AM
Considering I have unreleased remixes of tunes done by Christopher Lawrence which are slotted for release on Pharmacy Music, my concern is totally valid. Do I want to be releasing music on a label ran by a guy who is getting such bad press right now? I like Christopher alot, but I don't condone cheating - even if it's in a fucking whackass mega popularity contest.

There's no such thing as bad press. If anything, it brings Lawrence back into people's minds. I always liked him, his interviews are cool, he's down to earth, and always stayed true to his style and what he liked, regardless of where the scene and other big name DJs were going (such as to anthem trance, then dark trance, then progressive, then electro, etc). Same for DJ Dan: people know that they aren't jackasses and wouldn't do this. If this had been done by, say, Keoki, would anyone doubt it? Nope.

I think their reputations are fine, but their manager did something dumb, they get burned by it on the DJ Mag Who's The Most Popular Regardless Of Actual Talent And Does Anyone Really Take It Seriously Anymore Anyway Because We Listen To Who We Want To Regardless 100 list, and it's done.

My guess is that CL and DJ Dan had nothing to do with it, and don't really care too much about the poll anyway. No need to burn bridges when you have such an awesome "in" to get your stuff released.

PotBelly
2007-10-16, 10:31 AM
DJ Polls. Serious Business.

Jay Selway
2007-10-16, 08:57 PM
There's no such thing as bad press. If anything, it brings Lawrence back into people's minds. I always liked him, his interviews are cool, he's down to earth, and always stayed true to his style and what he liked, regardless of where the scene and other big name DJs were going (such as to anthem trance, then dark trance, then progressive, then electro, etc). Same for DJ Dan: people know that they aren't jackasses and wouldn't do this. If this had been done by, say, Keoki, would anyone doubt it? Nope.

I think their reputations are fine, but their manager did something dumb, they get burned by it on the DJ Mag Who's The Most Popular Regardless Of Actual Talent And Does Anyone Really Take It Seriously Anymore Anyway Because We Listen To Who We Want To Regardless 100 list, and it's done.

My guess is that CL and DJ Dan had nothing to do with it, and don't really care too much about the poll anyway. No need to burn bridges when you have such an awesome "in" to get your stuff released.


Yah kinda how i feel.