Animal Paks

[Big McLargeHuge]

i am just about to finish up my current No2 stack, second week or so of july, and plan on letting my body even out and clean out for about a month or so. the big thing is losing the water weight that is a side effect of the creatine that i have been on.

i am looking towards august though for a new stack, and i have heard some good things about Animal Paks, and Animal Cuts.

anyone here tried them, or know anyone who has, or has heard anything?

check out the site, please give thoughts, etc

http://www.animalpak.com/

[oh no its nick]

They do a good job, but imo very, very overpriced for what you get. It's all up to your budgeting - if you have no problem spending the cash, then by all means go for it. Otherwise there are many other multivitamin and cutting stack options to consider.

[Big McLargeHuge]

They do a good job, but imo very, very overpriced for what you get. It's all up to your budgeting - if you have no problem spending the cash, then by all means go for it. Otherwise there are many other multivitamin and cutting stack options to consider.

seems to be a less expensive thing then the No2 stack i have been on, to be honest. and it really doesn't seem taht bad for just the Animal Paks, the basic supplement packets. the animal cuts is what i am really interested in though

[oh no its nick]

Well essentially, with the Animal Cuts you're paying $51 + tax for a 21 day supply of what is mainly composed of natural organic extracts, and a couple well known effective compounds (L-Carnitine, L-Tyrosine, and Lipoic Acid).

What I would do personally, if you are looking to cut water weight, bodyfat, etc, on a cutting plan:

https://www.anafit.com/shop/product_info.php?id=162&cartID=f6b5201b4f5c023821269afa69892cd4&subcat=26669

Essentially, $97+tax for a 45-60 day supply (depending on how you dose) of 3 products (SesaPure, Glucorell, Levorex) that will be a lot more effective, last longer on a cycle, and be more efficient price wise. You're welcome to read the reviews/details of the 3 products on AF's site, but essentially you're getting (per day):

840+ mg of Sesamin / Episesamin
Acetyl-l-carnitine 1000+mg
Acetyl-l-tyrosine 120+mg
Green tea extract 98% (50% egcg) 520+mg
Piperine 8+mg
EvoPure (Pure evodiamine) 40+mg
Vinpocetine 4+mg
Pyroxidal-5-phosphate 4+mg
Pure (R+)Lipoic Acid 200+mg
Biotin 1500+mcg

[that's with the other natural extracts, etc eliminated as I did with the first, and the + after each number is there again depending on dosage]

and you'd be getting that for at least twice the duration if not longer (depending on dosage) for less than twice the price of the Animal Stak. Those products are reknowned (sp?) in the lifting community for their effectiveness and AF is a stand up company.

There are tons of other alternatives as well I could suggest, this is the first that came to mind.

[Big McLargeHuge]

interesting. thanks for the info. the No2 stack that i have been on has definitely paid off well, but i am going to be off it for at least four months or so. i have two cans of Spiz (www.spiz.net (http://www.spiz.net)) which i am going to try when i do go off No2 totally, and want to stick to spiz for about a month, doing more endurance training. I figure about 3rd week of august i will be looking for something new, and will check out what you posted there. thanks again

[oh no its nick]

interesting. thanks for the info. the No2 stack that i have been on has definitely paid off well, but i am going to be off it for at least four months or so. i have two cans of Spiz (www.spiz.net (http://www.spiz.net)) which i am going to try when i do go off No2 totally, and want to stick to spiz for about a month, doing more endurance training. I figure about 3rd week of august i will be looking for something new, and will check out what you posted there. thanks again

Nice, yeah definitely a good idea to take a few months off stims to let your body's tolerance lower and readjust. I'm still trying to find a good pre workout stim to take...of all the ones I've tried (Red Blast, Primal N20, no-Xplod, EC) i've either felt nothing at all, or felt like i was about to have a heart attack :(

[Big McLargeHuge]

which category did the No Xplode go into? that one i would say start off with one scoop, going up depending on how it hits you. i take three scoops of that about 30 minutes before i hit the gym, do a 15 minute warmup, and its hitting me just as i start lifting. the gains i have made in strength while on that were definitely larger then had i not been.

the other ones i haven't tried. i do go on Yellow Jackets for short periods when wanting to drop a few extra pounds, (25 mgs of Ephedra, 300 mg's of caffiene, just add an aspirin for a good E/C/A stack) but i don't mix those with the No2, they kind of go against what each other does.

its a little bit more expensive, but i would recomend trying the spiz (www.spiz.net) for a pre and during workout supplement. its not so much an energy drink, per se, but a fully rounded nutritional drink, very well balanced too, for more endurance oriented workouts

[oh no its nick]

felt nothing from the No-XPLOD at several different tried doses, at the most i felt a tiny bit jittery but that was about it

I'll check into spiz - thanks for the link :yes:

[Big McLargeHuge]

felt nothing from the No-XPLOD at several different tried doses, at the most i felt a tiny bit jittery but that was about it

I'll check into spiz - thanks for the link :yes:

no prob, no xplode is one of the few stims that actually does push me up and over, which is why i am just finishing up my second cycle on it. its the kind of shit that when i go into the gym, i feel like, if my heart doesnt explode, then i will lift harder then ever. love that feeling

[OhNoesIt'sJohn]

last time i used animal paks i got them at a discount, something like 15 dollars off...the regular price is retarded for what they do...check in to something else if you can.

[n-root]

What do these things do for you? Why doesn't old fashioned life as a hardass not suffice. When I feel fat I drop and give myself a 'stack' of 60 situps, 45 push ups, a few hundred jumping jacks, and go for a run. I have a really slow metabolism too... Does stuff like that not work to keep you in shape? Is it a time thing? I am just currious, not meaning to be caustic if it comes off that way.

[Big McLargeHuge]

What do these things do for you? Why doesn't old fashioned life as a hardass not suffice. When I feel fat I drop and give myself a 'stack' of 60 situps, 45 push ups, a few hundred jumping jacks, and go for a run. I have a really slow metabolism too... Does stuff like that not work to keep you in shape? Is it a time thing? I am just currious, not meaning to be caustic if it comes off that way.

you caustic BASTARD!!!!

nah, its not that that stuff doesnt work, it does and has been for me, as i do more pushups and situps every morning then i have before, then the gym four days a week, and two days of crossfit type workouts. those work quite well, but sometimes you can get a stim supplement to help you push past a plateau, hit a new max, or do an extra set of pullups, etc.

none of those things work simply by themselves, but can complement a good solid workout. and as long as people see things like supplements, nutrients, etc, as a complement to a workout and not an answer to anything, then i am all for things like No Xplode, etc

[n-root]

Sounds cool. Also sounds like you really need to be in tune with your own limits to see when/where/how these things are helping you when you take them. Probably wouldn't work too well for me but definately sounds useful for a bodybuilding type of thing.

[2rip]

Current stack I'm using is the new Muscle-tech shit (Creakic, Gakic, & Leukic). I did a creatine loading phase the last 8 days and then jumped into this stack. I'm literally only 3 days in but yesterday at the gym I really wanted to tear into the weights... and I did. Then when I was beaten to shit I still had the drive to keep tearing into 'em. I've never had this happen to me before after I've been totally fatigued.

Only bad part about this was that if I didn't know any better I would have easily had an injury because I"m sure some people would just keep going. Strangely though I did not feel actually energy increases like I did when I did the NO supplements a couple years ago.

I'm planning to use the Muscletech stack for it's 15 day duration then switch to an NO supplement while I lay off the creatine.