In case you can't count calories. . . . . .

[bkidz]

Calories Don't Count At Fast-Food Outlets

By JIM MURPHY
A DOW JONES NEWSWIRES COLUMN


NEW YORK -- The New York State Restaurant Association has gone to court to challenge a New York City ordinance that would mandate the posting of calorie counts right next to the listing of menu items in fast-food outlets.

The way the ordinance is written, it would apply only to fast-food outlets because it targets restaurants "with standard portion sizes, and which already disclose nutritional information voluntarily," the Associated Press reported. Owing to the court challenge, the effective date of the new ordinance has been moved to Oct. 1 from July 1.

The restaurant trade group is wasting its time fighting an ordinance that will be as effective in reining in fast-food pigouts as the death warnings on the side of a pack of cigarettes. There is nothing that can be put on the side of a pack of cigarettes, no matter how gruesome, that would keep nicotine addicts from procuring their fixes.

Placing "580 calories' beside the menu listing of a Greaseburger would not for a moment depress Greaseburger sales. Greaseburger eaters already know that Greaseburgers aren't tofu, and they don't care.

In response to the new ordinance, some fast-food chains, including Wendy's, White Castle and Quiznos, have already eliminated the nutritional information that they did provide, according to the Associated Press.

My favorite official-spokesperson response was: "Our customers are smart and we believe they're capable of making sound decisions for themselves and their families based on our choice and variety and the wealth of nutrition information that we are already providing in so many ways," McDonald's spokeswoman Lisa Howard told the AP.

Actually, smart fast-food customers could eat better and for a lot less money by dining at home.

[Shawn_E]

mcdonalds is the death of this great nation :poop: wendys taste so much better :drool:

[bkidz]

This law should mandate that along with your total cost for fast food, you also receive a total calorie count and how long it will take for you to work off what you eat.

[Shawn_E]

I think healthcare premiums should be cheaper for people who do stay fit :shrug: vs those who choose to lift burgers instead of dumbbells

[ChicoMDK]

I could go for a checkers double cheese burger right about now

[bkidz]

I could go for a checkers double cheese burger right about now

Don't forget about checkers fries :drool:

[bboyneko]

mcdonalds is the death of this great nation :poop: wendys taste so much better :drool:

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Cowlick.jpg

[ChicoMDK]

Don't forget about checkers fries :drool:

that goes with out saying

[Funshine]

I would adore a Wendy's Spicy Chicken sammich right now.

Oh well. Salad for dinner is better, really..... right?

[Shawn_E]

I wouldn't mind their crispy chicken nuggets which pwn mcdonald's "nuggets" and a bacon cheeseburger combo :drool: I feel a relapse coming on when I get paid tomorrow :chilly: damn you all

[BuzzCat]

I would adore a Wendy's Spicy Chicken sammich right now.

Oh well. Salad for dinner is better, really..... right?

I'm having

hormone / antibiodic free range chicken salad with a bit of grass / grain fed organic chicken eggs mixed in with all natural mayo, on a whole grain organic wheat bread with organic spinach lettuce. mmmmm, tastes like dirt. I made the chicken using organic, unsalted butter with herbs and eggs boiled in water blessed by the fucking pope. or something.

I want some god damn Chicken McNuggets.

Also, I just IM'd this to Ben:

natashaamee: I just realized that when I made my chicken salad with egg
natashaamee: it's still really all chicken
natashaamee: adult chicken and baby chicken.
natashaamee: ew.
natashaamee: I ate the whole family.

[Shawn_E]

natashaamee: I just realized that when I made my chicken salad with egg
natashaamee: it's still really all chicken
natashaamee: adult chicken and baby chicken.
natashaamee: ew.
natashaamee: I ate the whole family.
:


haha :spit: that made me snort lol :buttsex: :slap:

[imabagel]

mcdonalds is the death of this great nation :poop: wendys taste so much better :drool:

actually, its Long John Silvers.

Being the forefront chain that brought "high quality seafood to the fast food market".

however everything on their menu is deep fried and battered. except for

[1] the coleslaw
[2] the drinks

srsly, LJS is the death of the human race.

[Shawn_E]

nah not everyone eats LJS though, even though I do love their clams damn this thread!! I am going to chiptoles tomorrow, I will make up for it in the gym on saturday!!

[bkidz]

nah not everyone eats LJS though, even though I do love their clams damn this thread!! I am going to chiptoles tomorrow, I will make up for it in the gym on saturday!!

Chipotle is the death of America. . . . Granted they use fresh ingredients, but the calorie count on one burrito is over 2000 calories. :nixo:

[Funshine]

I'm having

hormone / antibiodic free range chicken salad with a bit of grass / grain fed organic chicken eggs mixed in with all natural mayo, on a whole grain organic wheat bread with organic spinach lettuce. mmmmm, tastes like dirt. I made the chicken using organic, unsalted butter with herbs and eggs boiled in water blessed by the fucking pope. or something.

I want some god damn Chicken McNuggets.

Also, I just IM'd this to Ben:
:haha: @ IM to Ben.

Your salad actually sounds pretty decent, although I'll admit I'd probably add some black pepper or crushed red pepper to that :drool:



And Shawn! I feel a relapse coming on as well..... I may very well beg LizE for a ride down Hamburger Highway this Sat :ponder:

[bboyneko]

five guys ftw. If only in and out burger was out here.

[bkidz]

five guys ftw. If only in and out burger was out here.


Yeah :stupid:. . . . . Lame family owned businesses that don't want to franchise. :ripped:

[ramz]

I think healthcare premiums should be cheaper for people who do stay fit :shrug: vs those who choose to lift burgers instead of dumbbells
except that there's not a single shred of scientific evidence that says that being fit is more healthy or will lead to a longer life over being "not fit"... just thought I should point that out...

[BuzzCat]

I'd never made chicken salad before, and I thought it would be a bit tastier with a tad of egg, but it sucked. I think I just don't like chicken salad. It was fresh though, since I made it all last night.

[ramz]

I'm having

hormone / antibiodic free range chicken salad with a bit of grass / grain fed organic chicken eggs mixed in with all natural mayo, on a whole grain organic wheat bread with organic spinach lettuce. mmmmm, tastes like dirt. I made the chicken using organic, unsalted butter with herbs and eggs boiled in water blessed by the fucking pope. or something.

I want some god damn Chicken McNuggets.

Also, I just IM'd this to Ben:
actually what you ate was mom and her period...

[Shawn_E]

five guys ftw. If only in and out burger was out here.


fuck all those white castle burgers :drool: ftw :pityparty: oh hhh how i miss you white castle and all your :poop: goodness :exbc:

[BuzzCat]

I think healthcare premiums should be cheaper for people who do stay fit :shrug: vs those who choose to lift burgers instead of dumbbells

Shut the fuck up Shawn. I will slap the stupid off you. You know how much that's going to hurt?

Enjoy your good health, and pay your premiums. Bamaface.

grrr.

[Shawn_E]

except that there's not a single shred of scientific evidence that says that being fit is more healthy or will lead to a longer life over being "not fit"... just thought I should point that out...


Right so you are telling me being obese I am not predisposed to more ill and health related problems down the road?

[BuzzCat]

actually what you ate was mom and her period...

Don't kill my funny.

[Shawn_E]

Shut the fuck up Shawn. I will slap the stupid off you. You know how much that's going to hurt?

Enjoy your good health, and pay your premiums. Bamaface.

grrr.


I lub you tasha :emo:

[Shawn_E]

Shut the fuck up Shawn. I will slap the stupid off you. You know how much that's going to hurt?

Enjoy your good health, and pay your premiums. Bamaface.

grrr.


I lub you tasha :emo: :glcaroline:

[BuzzCat]

Right so you are telling me being obese I am not predisposed to more ill and health related problems down the road?


There is a small grey area between fit and obese.

[oh no its nick]

except that there's not a single shred of scientific evidence that says that being fit is more healthy or will lead to a longer life over being "not fit"... just thought I should point that out...

currently praying that that's sarcasm

then again "fit" can mean a lot of different things...

[BuzzCat]

I lub you tasha :emo: :glcaroline:

Fetch me some chicken nuggets. All will be forgive after spankings.

[Shawn_E]

Fetch me some chicken nuggets. All will be forgive after spankings.


yayyy :buttsex:

[maynard]

Chipotle is the death of America. . . . Granted they use fresh ingredients, but the calorie count on one burrito is over 2000 calories. :nixo:

Negative, it's about 1100.

[ramz]

Right so you are telling me being obese I am not predisposed to more ill and health related problems down the road?
I'm saying there's no scientific evidence to support it... there is, however, a preponderance of evidence that points to the fact that staying at a consistent weight (almost any weight) is _MUCH_ more healthy than yo-yo'ing...

[ramz]

Don't kill my funny.
:shrug:/:elad: just sayin'... that's actually what we call chicken eggs here at home: chicken periods... mmmm...

[BuzzCat]

don't.... kill.... the funny. Make tashy ANGRY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPxGmTGarM

[Shawn_E]

I'm saying there's no scientific evidence to support it... there is, however, a preponderance of evidence that points to the fact that staying at a consistent weight (almost any weight) is _MUCH_ more healthy than yo-yo'ing...


Does there need to be scientific evidence to see something so blantantly obvious :shrug:

I am a gambling man and I am willing to place my bets on this lady

http://www.bodiesofstone.homestead.com/files/pt.new.jpg that she is in better health than

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1880/bikini2be.jpg

:shrug: I may be crazy I dunno

[Chrississippi]

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator

^ you can find out how many calories for any combination of ingredients.

[Shawn_E]

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator

^ you can find out how many calories for any combination of ingredients.


:thumbsup: thanks! :bananarider:

[bkidz]

Negative, it's about 1100.

The burrito I normally order is 2028 calories. . . . :shrug:

[maynard]

The burrito I normally order is 2028 calories. . . . :shrug:

I just went to the Chipotle nutrition calculator and made a burrito with literally EVERYTHING in it and it only came to 1700.

Goodgodman, what are you eating!

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator

[Shawn_E]

Wow, :badkitty:

[ramz]

Does there need to be scientific evidence to see something so blantantly obvious :shrug:

I am a gambling man and I am willing to place my bets on this lady

:shrug: I may be crazy I dunnofirst, thanks for killing any hope of a hard on that I might have had for the next week... second, what's widely viewed to be common sense is often flavored by common myth. we are raised to believe that fat is unhealthy, even though the scientific evidence to support the conjecture doesn't actually exist... this is an all too common occurrence and stretches well beyond the area of fitness. Granted, being 400lb has a variety of risks involved that will certainly impact good health and longevity, but being 40lb overweight? no one can really say for sure...

[bkidz]

I just went to the Chipotle nutrition calculator and made a burrito with literally EVERYTHING in it and it only came to 1700.

Goodgodman, what are you eating!

http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator

13" Flour Tortilla
Rice
Pinto Beans
Barbacoa
Tomato
Corn
Green Tomatillo
Cheese
Sour Cream
Guacamole
Lettuce
Chips

[LilLemur416]

I think healthcare premiums should be cheaper for people who do stay fit :shrug: vs those who choose to lift burgers instead of dumbbells

Some companies do offer incentives for employees who maintain a healthier lifestyle... Here's an example: http://www.startribune.com/535/story/1249424.html

and: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070618/LIFESTYLE03/706180378

:shrug:

[maynard]

13" Flour Tortilla
Rice
Pinto Beans
Barbacoa
Tomato
Corn
Green Tomatillo
Cheese
Sour Cream
Guacamole
Lettuce
Chips

That comes to 1538, minus the chips which don't count 'cuz they don't actually go in the burrito.

LOL. I'm really not trying to bust your balls, I'm trying to bring you good news that your favorite burrito isn't nearly AS unhealthy as you think. :)

[BuzzCat]

Yum

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5026/chipotleyp3.jpg

[Shawn_E]

That comes to 1538, minus the chips which don't count 'cuz they don't actually go in the burrito.

LOL. I'm really not trying to bust your balls, I'm trying to bring you good news that your favorite burrito isn't nearly AS unhealthy as you think. :)


who in the hell eats a burrito for health related reasons :shrug: ??? I eat them to cleanse my colon :poop: :weasel:

[Shawn_E]

Yum

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5026/chipotleyp3.jpg


Jesus what in the hell do you get on your burrito lol

[BuzzCat]

I do not eat chipotle. The most I ever have in a normal meal is 500 calories. Except for that one "free" meal a week at Chevy's or something.

[ChicoMDK]

Damn it i took the heatly route for lunch today. I was so gonna do checkers but at the last min i got grilled salmon wild rice and steam veggies

[GiveMeFunkyBeats]

my chipotle burrito bol comes to


Calories 1167 Calories from Fat 584

:sadpanda: i havent eaten there in probably 2 months or so



so sad

[Bioteknik]

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[Bioteknik]

I broked it!!

[Bioteknik]

Of course I probably haven't had chipotle in like a year or so.. they're just too damn big. and as I've always said, I like Baja Fresh better, you can't beat it enchilado style (which adds 1100 calories to the burrito)

[Alexis]

QDOBA! <3

I converted.

[bboyneko]

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Burk.jpg

[oh no its nick]

first, thanks for killing any hope of a hard on that I might have had for the next week... second, what's widely viewed to be common sense is often flavored by common myth. we are raised to believe that fat is unhealthy, even though the scientific evidence to support the conjecture doesn't actually exist... this is an all too common occurrence and stretches well beyond the area of fitness. Granted, being 400lb has a variety of risks involved that will certainly impact good health and longevity, but being 40lb overweight? no one can really say for sure...

Ah, now what you're saying makes more sense, lol. As in, the 40lb 'overweight' person by whatever national standard says they're overweight vs. the 'normal weight' person by the same standards who both don't exercise, etc., then yeah, probably not that much of a difference.

Obviously when exercise/diet are brought in, the person who does those vs. the person who doesn't is obviously going to be healthier and on a broad scale have a better chance of living longer barring freak accidents...but yeah, being 'overweight' has no bearing, there are professional strongmen who aren't lean, are 360lbs and look chubby, but they're in better cardiovascular shape, have stronger tendons/bones/ligaments/muscles, and are healthier than the same guy their height who's 'normal weight' with a six pack.

[Shawn_E]

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Burk.jpg


:smurf: :uhhok: This one is too far for even me, and I am an asshole. I know it's a joke but I love my kids and this is a no no :nono:

And I even have the one you posted of the towers getting owned rampage style as my desktop and I work for the dept of defense so ...:plurboh:

[ChicoMDK]

first, thanks for killing any hope of a hard on that I might have had for the next week... second, what's widely viewed to be common sense is often flavored by common myth. we are raised to believe that fat is unhealthy, even though the scientific evidence to support the conjecture doesn't actually exist... this is an all too common occurrence and stretches well beyond the area of fitness. Granted, being 400lb has a variety of risks involved that will certainly impact good health and longevity, but being 40lb overweight? no one can really say for sure...


this somethign i wish they would do more research on beucase I do admit that I m a bit over weight I am 5'7 192lbs last time i was at the doctors. But I dotn look it at all. I do wanna loose weight and get healthier but the doctor told me ideal weight was 153 I was like Uh i play hockey if i was 153 I would get killed. then told me like 170 i am not buying that one either. I would like to be around 180 a healthy 180.

[ramz]

Ah, now what you're saying makes more sense, lol. As in, the 40lb 'overweight' person by whatever national standard says they're overweight vs. the 'normal weight' person by the same standards who both don't exercise, etc., then yeah, probably not that much of a difference.

Obviously when exercise/diet are brought in, the person who does those vs. the person who doesn't is obviously going to be healthier and on a broad scale have a better chance of living longer barring freak accidents...but yeah, being 'overweight' has no bearing, there are professional strongmen who aren't lean, are 360lbs and look chubby, but they're in better cardiovascular shape, have stronger tendons/bones/ligaments/muscles, and are healthier than the same guy their height who's 'normal weight' with a six pack.
but you know insurance actuarial tables will only use calculated BMI and pre-suppose that someone 40lb underweight is more healthy than someone 40lb overweight when, clearly, there's no way that's true...

[oh no its nick]

but you know insurance actuarial tables will only use calculated BMI and pre-suppose that someone 40lb underweight is more healthy than someone 40lb overweight when, clearly, there's no way that's true...

yeah, retarded. By my doctor's office charts, at 5'10" 190 I am in the overweight category. But...I'm not overweight, heh.

[ramz]

BMI is a fucking fallacy that seriously needs to die... it wasn't even created to measure body fat or level of fitness in the first place... I am morbidly obese based on the BMI thing and while I know I am somewhat overweight, I don't think I'm unhealthy...

[Bioteknik]

yeah.. last week when I went to the doctor, the guy had to do a double take when he heard my height/weight and immediately took my blood pressure..

[Funshine]

BMI is a fucking fallacy that seriously needs to die... it wasn't even created to measure body fat or level of fitness in the first place... I am morbidly obese based on the BMI thing and while I know I am somewhat overweight, I don't think I'm unhealthy...
I am solidly in the modbidly obese catagory... it makes me sad. Especially when two doctors at the office I attend have told me I'd be a perfect selection for Gastric Bypass Surgery.

I mean, damn. I know I'm a fatty, but I don't think I am at the level yet where I'd need to take such drastic action. I feel like the standards aren't realistic.

Plus my cholesteral levels are fine and my blood pressure is great. Meh.

[oh no its nick]

BMI is a fucking fallacy that seriously needs to die... it wasn't even created to measure body fat or level of fitness in the first place... I am morbidly obese based on the BMI thing and while I know I am somewhat overweight, I don't think I'm unhealthy...

It is fucking stupid, it helps nothing and measures nothing really. I was going to ask my doctor why the medical community keeps going with it, but then again my doctor told me deadlifts were bad for me and that squats stunted my growth. Right. My doctor, also, is fat and out of shape.

[ramz]

I am solidly in the modbidly obese catagory... it makes me sad. Especially when two doctors at the office I attend have told me I'd be a perfect selection for Gastric Bypass Surgery.

I mean, damn. I know I'm a fatty, but I don't think I am at the level yet where I'd need to take such drastic action. I feel like the standards aren't realistic.

Plus my cholesteral levels are fine and my blood pressure is great. Meh.I think it's mostly because of the fact that it isn't actually a standard... When Adolphe Quetelet came up with BMI (in the 1850's, I might add) it was intended to be an instrument of social policy to combat starvation among the poor, not a way to determine who was statistically a fat ass and who wasn't... chin up, gerla...

[oh no its nick]

Never knew the history behind it...cool stuff :star:

[ramz]

you'd be shocked at how often well intended (and tragically false) pseudo-science is based on misappropriation of actual science... :wink:

[oh no its nick]

oh i don't doubt it

[Funshine]

I think it's mostly because of the fact that it isn't actually a standard... When Adolphe Quetelet came up with BMI (in the 1850's, I might add) it was intended to be an instrument of social policy to combat starvation among the poor, not a way to determine who was statistically a fat ass and who wasn't... chin up, gerla...
Huh, that I did not know. +1 education for the day, I guess.

Anyways, I have completely overhauled my diet and started doing regular exercise, so to hell with the bypass comments :wink:

[BuzzCat]

I am solidly in the modbidly obese catagory... it makes me sad. Especially when two doctors at the office I attend have told me I'd be a perfect selection for Gastric Bypass Surgery.

I mean, damn. I know I'm a fatty, but I don't think I am at the level yet where I'd need to take such drastic action. I feel like the standards aren't realistic.

Plus my cholesteral levels are fine and my blood pressure is great. Meh.

You are not that big, they shouldn't be saying that. That's some bullshit. Ugh.

[ChicoMDK]

I am solidly in the modbidly obese catagory... it makes me sad. Especially when two doctors at the office I attend have told me I'd be a perfect selection for Gastric Bypass Surgery.

I mean, damn. I know I'm a fatty, but I don't think I am at the level yet where I'd need to take such drastic action. I feel like the standards aren't realistic.

Plus my cholesteral levels are fine and my blood pressure is great. Meh.


I say we go and kick your doctors asses for being Asses

[BuzzCat]

Then can we steal all their funny pills?

[ramz]

so here's the plan... threaten, have them point out the funny pills, steal em, then kick their asses anyway... Ready? BREAK!

I need a floorplan to diagram it properly...

[ChicoMDK]

Then can we steal all their funny pills?

we make them take their funny pills

let see what happens when mix viagra with steroids

[BuzzCat]

so here's the plan... threaten, have them point out the funny pills, steal em, then kick their asses anyway... Ready? BREAK!

I need a floorplan to diagram it properly...

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6872/flloorplanvy9.jpg

[BuzzCat]

we make them take their funny pills

let see what happens when mix viagra with steroids

I just drew a really gross MS pain picture for this. Then I thought better of posting it.

[ramz]

/me prefers the boobies...

[Methodus]

I saw a specialist who told me to stop taking protein shakes. I laughed at him and haven't gone back.

[ramz]

yeah... that advice is for people that don't actually do enough working out to warrant the protein intake... for them, the unused proteins are shot thru the kidneys and can cause harm to them over time... I think the problem with people trying to apply maxims is that no singular aspect of the human body is universal. What works for some, won't work for others... the moral to the story is find your formula and regiment it...

[Alexis]

:smurf: :uhhok: This one is too far for even me, and I am an asshole. I know it's a joke but I love my kids and this is a no no :nono:

And I even have the one you posted of the towers getting owned rampage style as my desktop and I work for the dept of defense so ...:plurboh:


So you're saying that because you can relate to babies the idea of eating children isn't funny, but somehow 9/11 is hilarious enough to have as a wallpaper?

I don't follow your logic.

[Bioteknik]

I saw a specialist who told me to stop taking protein shakes. I laughed at him and haven't gone back.

Well I think there are medical studies out there that show you don't need nearly that much protein in order to build muscle.

One chicken breast has about 50g of protein, same with a pork chop..


only thing is remember to drink plenty of water, or you'll have a buildup of nitrogenous waste in your joints.

[Bioteknik]

yeah... that advice is for people that don't actually do enough working out to warrant the protein intake... for them, the unused proteins are shot thru the kidneys and can cause harm to them over time... I think the problem with people trying to apply maxims is that no singular aspect of the human body is universal. What works for some, won't work for others... the moral to the story is find your formula and regiment it...

you can easily get 150-200 g of protein from a regular diet.. :shrug:

(recommended amounts for a 200lb man)

[ramz]

for maintenance, methinks, yes?

[oh no its nick]

for maintenance, methinks, yes?

werd

if you're getting a ton of protein (200-250+) and not exercising, it's a waste and turns into something non-awesome (can't remember what, there's some process though)

[Bioteknik]

for maintenance, methinks, yes?

nope, an average person only needs 100g of protein in a day..

I got the 150-200 amount from a body building article.

Phil posted a study a while back in some vegetarian thread that was discussing how too much protein in your diet can leach the calcium away from your bones.

here's an interesting read on protein intake

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein.html

[ramz]

but all forms of protein are not created equal though, so I would think it's tough to say that you should only have Xg of protein unless you equalize the sources...

[Bioteknik]

I'm not saying you should only eat x amount.. it's just that it may not be necessary to supplement your protein intake when you eat a well-balanced diet.

[ProjektRaRa]

EEK. about calories... i figured that a Panera sandwich would be better than a quarter pounder.... WRONG. it looks better, yes... and i figured the turkey, cheese, whatever would be healthier... but the calorie count is THROUGH THE ROOF! i think it's due to the bread... but oh my god... i was really surprised...

Mickey D's Chicken Bacon Ranch (without the ranch) is only 250 calories though... which is pretty damn good.

[ramz]

gotchas of eating out:

- white stuff (sugar, white bread, potatoes, mayo, pasta, white rice)
- oils
- ground beef

just remember that most restaurants aren't designed to serve niche health nuts; they are in business to make as much profit as possible which means using the cheapest ingredients they can legally obtain and pass on to you. That means most of the stuff you can get out is gonna be high in fat and fillers.

easy things like subbing a sandwich wrap for a normal sandwich can save you hundreds of calories.

Yeah, the panera thing may have kicked your ass calorie wise, but I'll bet you did okay fat-wise... also, you won't have that sickening feeling of having fried, fatty food in your gut for the next 6 hours... ugh...