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Neptune
2007-05-21, 03:16 AM
so, normally i would say diet pills are lame, cause you can't substitute for diet and exercise.

but can anyone recommend ones that have helped? ones to avoid?


i started taking relacore recently. not for diet, but just as a supplement for stress and anxiety. it's been helping me sleep at night a little (without taking a sleep aid, which i dont like), and now i heard they came out with a new strength made just for bedtime.

anyone else tried relacore?





*THIS IS NOT SPAM* :D

Shakey
2007-05-21, 03:26 AM
I can tell you NOT to take Xenical. I am not saying from personal experience, as I have never messed with any of that crap. I have an ex who took Xenical (why she did this, i don't know. the girl was 5'7" and weighed 130lbs. :shrug:) and it fucked her heartbeat all up. At first I thought she was just being paranoid, but then I felt it. Her heart was racing, and the beats were uneven as fuck. Her and I emptied the pills and flushed them down the toilet.

Shakey
2007-05-21, 03:39 AM
My bad!

It wasn't Xenical......it was Xenadrine. For serious.....no one should use this.

http://www.fitnesskit.info/tienda/images/XENADRINE_OP.jpg

Jenni XO
2007-05-21, 08:33 AM
I've tried a few here and there, and they always make me stomach feel gross.


I can't really recommend any that gave me great success. They'd help me lose maybe three pounds in about two weeks, and then that was pretty much it.

CareBear
2007-05-21, 09:24 AM
My bad!

It wasn't Xenical......it was Xenadrine. For serious.....no one should use this.

http://www.fitnesskit.info/tienda/images/XENADRINE_OP.jpg


I used Xenadrine a while back and had no problems with it. Its almost like Hydroxicut with a little extra kick. I no longer use it but it was more of an amp for working out rather then a diet pill.

GiveMeFunkyBeats
2007-05-21, 09:41 AM
hrmmm iunno about diet pills, but i take chromium picolinate as a daily supplement

Can I use chromium picolinate as part of my weight loss program?
While there is no “quick fix” for losing weight permanently, chromium picolinate can be a valuable addition to a well-designed, long-term weight loss program. People who are overweight are often insulin resistant. Given the body of evidence demonstrating chromium’s health benefits in people who are insulin resistant, chromium supplementation should be considered a natural choice for supporting a healthier metabolism in people who are overweight. When taken in conjunction with a well-balanced diet and regular exercise, chromium picolinate can effectively support your goal of achieving and maintaining a healthy weight, by promoting a healthy metabolism, reducing body fat and preserving lean muscle.


neway there is no quick fix to losing weight except living a healthier lifestyle, diet, exercise etc.

Shawn_E
2007-05-21, 10:24 AM
Again, if you take these supplements please make sure you do it on a full stomach, any of these on an empty stomach is not a good idea. But try Redline, either the pill form or the bottled drink.

I recommend half a pill first to get you used to it's kick. I would also use it in conjunction with a cardio workout as it benefits you most that way. You may experience a light 'shiver' but that's the way it works with your body's system in that way I forgot the details in full because I've been taking it for over a year.

I prefer both forms but if you are in the gym they may have it in the liquid form and I say drink only half the bottle first again just until your body adapts to it.

BuzzCat
2007-05-21, 10:24 AM
I've tried a couple, and so have a couple friends I know. We all agree - they all suck. Anything that makes me feel like that can go to hell.

sweetnarcosis
2007-05-21, 10:33 AM
My bad!

It wasn't Xenical......it was Xenadrine. For serious.....no one should use this.

http://www.fitnesskit.info/tienda/images/XENADRINE_OP.jpg


i totally agree. it gave me a racing pulse and horrible shakes. do not try it!

GiveMeFunkyBeats
2007-05-21, 10:40 AM
Again, if you take these supplements please make sure you do it on a full stomach, any of these on an empty stomach is not a good idea. But try Redline, either the pill form or the bottled drink.



wow, are you kidding me? i cant believe you would put something in ur body that uses shivering as a mechanism to burn stored body fat in order to keep the body warm

that seriously just sounds scary

Shawn_E
2007-05-21, 10:42 AM
wow, are you kidding me? i cant believe you would put something in ur body that uses shivering as a mechanism to burn stored body fat in order to keep the body warm

that seriously just sounds scary


nah it's not as bad as it sounds. Yes I agree on paper that sounds weird, but I've used just about every fat burner on the market for my cardio work outs and I like redline the best. :tweak:

Methodus
2007-05-21, 11:11 AM
To boost your metabolism, I would only recommend the tried and true regimen: EC Stack (Ephederine + Caffeine), which is often called an ECA stack (with asprin)... but skip the asprin.

The FDA banned many forms of Ephedra, but it's cleaner and synthetic cousin Ephedrine is still available (but may require an ID due to the fact that it is widely used by meth manufacturers as a precursor or something).

Anyways, here is a great reference regarding the EC Stack:
http://terracotta2.googlepages.com/ecstack

Follow her advice, only use 25mg of Ephedrine per dose (3 times a day), and a 200mg caffeine pill. Also, spend the extra money and purchase Bolt Ephedrine HCL, which doesn't have extra meds in it. Just follow the advice on Terra's page and you will be set.

Also, the first time you take ephederine it's followed by euphoria -- but that won't occur after a few doses.

BuzzCat
2007-05-21, 11:32 AM
nah it's not as bad as it sounds. Yes I agree on paper that sounds weird, but I've used just about every fat burner on the market for my cardio work outs and I like redline the best. :tweak:

yuck. yuck yuck. Screw paper, I wouldn't want to feel like that. I can imagine what it does to your heart.

oh no its nick
2007-05-21, 12:04 PM
Methodus is right, EC stack is pretty much the only real effective thing out there - anything else is lame since ephedra was banned, so all those supplements like Hydroxycut et. al are just a bunch of caffeine, green tea, etc - so a horrendous waste of money.

If you can't manage to get Ephedrine pills, then I know that people have been buying Bronchaid in the pharmacy...normally used for a sore throat or something but I think it as ~25mg of ephedrine per serving.

If you do get ephedrine, do it wisely. It's an amazing addition to a diet if you work your tolerance up to 2-3 doses a day ~25mg per dose and stack it with caffeine, but adding any more does NOT help. That's why it's banned - dumbasses think more is better, and then they get a stroke. Be smart about it. Ephedra is totally safe when taken normally, and totally dangerous when overdone. Otherwise energy supps like AMP/Redline are your next best bet.

sassypance
2007-05-21, 02:07 PM
taking the proper amount of xenadrine on a full stomach waves a lot of the side effects. when i was working retail i would get so tired and so bored that i would be nodding off all day long but the xenadrine kept me awake and made me lose a couple of pounds here and there too. it's hard to gauge given the time in my life when that wasn't the only thing that was making me lose weight. days when i really needed a boost to be productive and didn't want to be drinking coffee and other crap i would take that or hydroxycut.

punkasschikadee
2007-05-21, 02:34 PM
My bad!

It wasn't Xenical......it was Xenadrine. For serious.....no one should use this.

http://www.fitnesskit.info/tienda/images/XENADRINE_OP.jpg

I took this when it contained ephedra - I dropped weight like it was nothing, but did get a small amount of heart jumping for about a year after I stopped

have never tried it since the ephedra was taken out of it

I have taken hydroxycut hardcore a few times... its ok... gives you an extra boost for your workout anyway...the dosage is 3 pills but I only take 1

bboyneko
2007-05-21, 02:39 PM
I've noticed people on Crack™ are pretty skinny.

http://poplicks.com/images/lohan-skinny.jpg

Shawn_E
2007-05-21, 02:56 PM
http://www.ultimatefatburner.com/vpx-redline-review.html


:tweak: :raveon:

LizE
2007-05-21, 02:59 PM
I tried Trimspa once. It actually worked for me, but I ended up throwing the stuff out because it gave me a rapid heartbeat and I felt shaky all over.

Not worth it.

Shawn_E
2007-05-21, 03:02 PM
I tried Trimspa once. It actually worked for me, but I ended up throwing the stuff out because it gave me a rapid heartbeat and I felt shaky all over.

Not worth it.

Meh, I tried Trimspa, did nothing for me and I used the whole bottle. damn big ass horse pill though geez. Maybe it's because I am already a caffeineholic.

Funshine
2007-05-21, 03:03 PM
http://www.ultimatefatburner.com/vpx-redline-review.html


:tweak: :raveon:
"If you're dying to try an ephedra-free fat burner, Redline is as good as any... just don't expect miracles. You'll get much better results from proper diet and exercise."

punkasschikadee
2007-05-21, 04:40 PM
btw i heard trim-spa is in some big legal case because their shit doesnt work

OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-21, 05:20 PM
no

no

no

no

NO

just eat better, stop doing drugs/drinking and exercise.

that is it.

diet pills fuck your metabolism up in the long run.

EmmaK
2007-05-21, 05:36 PM
so, normally i would say diet pills are lame, cause you can't substitute for diet and exercise.

but can anyone recommend ones that have helped? ones to avoid?
Ugh. :(


Please just don't take any. Get rid of the ones you're on, and don't buy more.
Your body will eventually rebound in one way or another (even if it takes years), and it won't be awesome.

jibboo
2007-05-21, 05:40 PM
no

no

no

no

NO

just eat better, stop doing drugs/drinking and exercise.

that is it.

diet pills fuck your metabolism up in the long run.
:stupid:

losing weight boils down to simple math

# of calories burned off through exercise > # of calories consumed

Neptune
2007-05-24, 03:03 PM
Ugh. :(


Please just don't take any. Get rid of the ones you're on, and don't buy more.
Your body will eventually rebound in one way or another (even if it takes years), and it won't be awesome.

i'm not on them to loose weight. i'm taking them to help me sleep.

relacore isn't a "fat burner" or an upper. it's more of a supplement than anything.

and it is helping me sleep a little.


i just thought a diet pill thread might be a good idea for the work that body forum....

Methodus
2007-05-24, 03:14 PM
:stupid:

losing weight boils down to simple math

# of calories burned off through exercise > # of calories consumed

There's nothing wrong w/ the EC stack to help speed up the process, work through plateau's, etc -- if... IF... taken responsibly.

Most of the other diet pills are just ripoffs, with a few non-stimulant legitimate ones... but probably don't do well very well in comparison.

EmmaK
2007-05-24, 03:15 PM
How would diet pills (which generally have some kind of stimulant/energizer/whateverthefuck) be considered a sleep aid?

And if it's a supplement, what are the ingredients that serve as a supplement?

Also, I don't consider "supplements" to be "diet pills", just because they're used in tandem with one's Diet (as in, your general intake, not a "diet" in the typical sense).

Alexis
2007-05-24, 03:17 PM
relacore isn't a "fat burner" or an upper. it's more of a supplement than anything.



I loved those commercials.


YOU NEED RELACORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alexis
2007-05-24, 03:18 PM
How would diet pills (which generally have some kind of stimulant/energizer/whateverthefuck) be considered a sleep aid?

And if it's a supplement, what are the ingredients that serve as a supplement?

Also, I don't consider "supplements" to be "diet pills", just because they're used in tandem with one's Diet (as in, your general intake, not a "diet" in the typical sense).

"magnolia bark"

the product claims that you get fat because of stress, so it claims to reduce stress :shrug:

EmmaK
2007-05-24, 03:23 PM
bwahahhahaha. wait.

As in the bark of a tree? Eating crushed up particles of tree bark will reduce my stress?

SWEET! Maybe I'll go camping this weekend and gnaw on some trees. Who needs the beach?

Funshine
2007-05-24, 03:26 PM
PSST - Emma's going to be an eager beaver... pass it on.

OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-24, 04:00 PM
PSST - Emma's going to be an eager beaver... pass it on.

must

not

make

lesbian

joke....

Shawn_E
2007-05-24, 04:16 PM
PSST - Emma's going to be an eager beaver... pass it on.


Damn being at work, I'd post my beaver pic

Shawn_E
2007-05-24, 04:16 PM
bwahahhahaha. wait.

As in the bark of a tree? Eating crushed up particles of tree bark will reduce my stress?

SWEET! Maybe I'll go camping this weekend and gnaw on some trees. Who needs the beach?


:haha: @ gnawing on 'wood' to reduce stress, i've always tried to case this as my arguement with my girlfriend but she never believed it!

EmmaK
2007-05-24, 04:36 PM
:doh: I fail, that set-up was way too easy and I wasn't even thinking naughty. I was actually thinking about tree trunks. Lame :(

OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-24, 04:53 PM
I was actually thinking about tree trunks. (

more pet names for your bf?








































OK OK I'll get my mind out of the gutter

EmmaK
2007-05-24, 04:54 PM
My bf is like a delicious tree trunk :affection:

Methodus
2007-05-24, 05:19 PM
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-020.gif

EmmaK
2007-05-24, 05:20 PM
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-020.gif
:chairfall: That would be a great smilie to add to the board.

Methodus
2007-05-24, 05:20 PM
This is another good one... for Cliff
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-023.gif

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 09:19 AM
diet pills. well, not sure if this has been mentioned before, but yeah.

over the last 8 years or so, back to my army days, i have tried numerous different diet pills to curb appetite, speed metabolism, etc. the ONLY ones that have had any noticeable effect, were ones that contained ephedra. thats it, nothing else did anything for me, and most were simply caffiene in pill form.

its sad that they actually banned ephedra, since it actually worked. i stocked up on Yellow Jackets when they lifted the ban for a short time a year or so ago, still have a bunch of bottles.

the main deal with those was hydration, and eating. if you didnt take them on an empty stomach, and fully hydrated, you were fine. i used to take one before the gym with an aspirin, which would thin the blood. that helped because the ephedra/caffiene mix can constrict the viens a bit.

but yeah, all in all, only diet pills that had any effect on appetite had ephedra in them

Methodus
2007-05-25, 09:52 AM
diet pills. well, not sure if this has been mentioned before, but yeah.

over the last 8 years or so, back to my army days, i have tried numerous different diet pills to curb appetite, speed metabolism, etc. the ONLY ones that have had any noticeable effect, were ones that contained ephedra. thats it, nothing else did anything for me, and most were simply caffiene in pill form.

its sad that they actually banned ephedra, since it actually worked. i stocked up on Yellow Jackets when they lifted the ban for a short time a year or so ago, still have a bunch of bottles.

the main deal with those was hydration, and eating. if you didnt take them on an empty stomach, and fully hydrated, you were fine. i used to take one before the gym with an aspirin, which would thin the blood. that helped because the ephedra/caffiene mix can constrict the viens a bit.

but yeah, all in all, only diet pills that had any effect on appetite had ephedra in them

Read my 2 posts in this thread. It's still available, and I even provide the links as to where to get it.

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 11:23 AM
Read my 2 posts in this thread. It's still available, and I even provide the links as to where to get it.

i have about 8 100 count bottles of the yellow jackets stocked up, those were the strongest i found, with 25 mg's of ephedra and 300 mg's of caffiene. i also have about 3 bottles of some 10 mg ephedra stuff.

i haven't seen many of the yellow jackets or stacker 2's since they reinstated the ban, and the ones i did see were at astronomical prices. when i got mine, they were still 25 a bottle

Neptune
2007-05-25, 04:02 PM
i have an old bottle of hydroxycut that has ephedra in it.

what is the shelf life of that stuff anyway?

Methodus
2007-05-25, 04:27 PM
8 million years

EmmaK
2007-05-25, 04:56 PM
i have an old bottle of hydroxycut that has ephedra in it.

what is the shelf life of that stuff anyway?
If you have addictive tendencies, I would recommend staying away from ephedra.

(I don't know if you do, nor am I assuming; it just needed to be said.)

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 07:13 PM
If you have addictive tendencies, I would recommend staying away from ephedra.

(I don't know if you do, nor am I assuming; it just needed to be said.)

eh, i never found ephedra really addictive, but i can see how someone who has an affinity for speed type stuffs could. i just tell anyone who uses it, cycle it like any other supplement, do a few months on, then equal amount of time off, so your body can reset, go back to normal.

EmmaK
2007-05-25, 07:21 PM
Okay, that's fine and awesome that you didn't find it to be addictive.

But if someone has addictive tendencies, then ephedra can be really bad news. People don't take them as seriously because they're "just" diet pills or whatever, but they still set off the same reaction pattern as other stimulants for someone prone to addictions.

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 08:39 PM
Okay, that's fine and awesome that you didn't find it to be addictive.

But if someone has addictive tendencies, then ephedra can be really bad news. People don't take them as seriously because they're "just" diet pills or whatever, but they still set off the same reaction pattern as other stimulants for someone prone to addictions.

reread the second part of my first sentence up there

EmmaK
2007-05-25, 08:45 PM
reread the second part of my first sentence up there
I read it the first time through.

For someone who gets addicted to shit, it's very hard to "just" cycle on through to something else.

I'm not saying anything wild here--I'm advocating that someone know their body and to proceed with caution.

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 09:00 PM
I read it the first time through.

For someone who gets addicted to shit, it's very hard to "just" cycle on through to something else.

I'm not saying anything wild here--I'm advocating that someone know their body and to proceed with caution.

right, and i was agreeing with you.. i swear, short people can be frustrating sometimes...

bah!

badkitty3804
2007-05-25, 09:16 PM
My bad!

It wasn't Xenical......it was Xenadrine. For serious.....no one should use this.

http://www.fitnesskit.info/tienda/images/XENADRINE_OP.jpg


I'll second this.

Holy crap, I took half portions when I was using this a few years ago and it made my brain feel like it would explode at any moment.

Precious12
2007-05-25, 09:26 PM
Ummm I'm not an avid fan of diet pills but my friend has lost 40 lbs in 3 months with Phentermine pills. You ONLY take 1 a day (they are that strong), and I've taken them before I've hit the scene and it definitely pumps you up. I dont take them consistantly enough to see actual results.

But definitely don't drink with these shits....they fuck you up QUICK.

http://www.customhrt.com

EmmaK
2007-05-25, 10:24 PM
Ummm I'm not an avid fan of diet pills but my friend has lost 40 lbs in 3 months with Phentermine pills. You ONLY take 1 a day (they are that strong), and I've taken them before I've hit the scene and it definitely pumps you up. I dont take them consistantly enough to see actual results.

But definitely don't drink with these shits....they fuck you up QUICK.
Jesu christo, please do not suggest phentermine. It is incredibly dangerous :sillyme:

EmmaK
2007-05-25, 10:25 PM
right, and i was agreeing with you.. i swear, short people can be frustrating sometimes...

bah!
:freakout: midget attack!!!!!!!!!

Precious12
2007-05-25, 10:45 PM
Jesu christo, please do not suggest phentermine. It is incredibly dangerous :sillyme:


I'm not endorsing it, just relaying my experience.

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 11:11 PM
I'm not endorsing it, just relaying my experience.

tell me, what is this of which you speak?

Precious12
2007-05-25, 11:21 PM
tell me, what is this of which you speak?



Phentermine.

Like I said earlier, I haven't taken it consistantly like my friend did, but the one day I took it, and didnt get to eat lunch around my scheduled time, I got sick and yakked. Pretty much I took (one of) them before I hit the club. But I really can't say more than that.

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-25, 11:30 PM
Phentermine.

Like I said earlier, I haven't taken it consistantly like my friend did, but the one day I took it, and didnt get to eat lunch around my scheduled time, I got sick and yakked. Pretty much I took (one of) them before I hit the club. But I really can't say more than that.

but what is it exactly, what does it do and what does it contain?

Precious12
2007-05-25, 11:37 PM
but what is it exactly, what does it do and what does it contain?


Fat burner, appetite suppressant. (There's variants of the dosage) but I think the ones i have is 30 mg of Phentermine. No additional shit.

Methodus
2007-05-25, 11:38 PM
cycle 8 weeks on, at least 2 off (most people do 8 off), just like if you were on gear.

instinct
2007-05-26, 12:23 AM
as stated before, there is no magic pill. never will be.

there are some pills to take to aid you. but the catch is, you have to be doing something positive for your body for these to benefit you in any kind of way.

Someone earlier mentioned redline, and i fully endorse it. Redline is *DEFINITELY* not for the weak at heart, i do warn.

I think because i used to get reallllllly effed up on "uppers", that these things that are pumped with caffiene dont affect me like it would some "normies".

But yes, redline is gewd. Half a bottle PER DAY to get used to, *WITH* a healthy diet and *WEEKLY* activity at a gym, works great. Great boost for the gym.

The whole hydroxycut thing was mentioned as well. I started off a little under four months ago with the white bottle, taking the minimum dosage, and leading up to full dosage. Then, i moved to hydroxycut hardcore, doing teh same with the dosage (following directions). I have lost a pretty good amount of weight in four short months (something like 28 lbs), but i do not credit it all to the pills, but they did help....

good luck!

oh yea, or you could just smoke crystal meth. worked for many in the past.

EmmaK
2007-05-26, 01:13 AM
but what is it exactly, what does it do and what does it contain?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine

Big McLargeHuge
2007-05-26, 09:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine

thanks emma

hmmmmm, wonder how that stuff would work for me

Neptune
2007-05-29, 03:33 AM
If you have addictive tendencies, I would recommend staying away from ephedra.

(I don't know if you do, nor am I assuming; it just needed to be said.)


i think just the fact that i still have the bottle would let you know how often i take it. i'm pretty sure there is just a few out of it in total. i just wanted to know the shelf life to see if they were even worth holding on to, or if they were expired.


for the record: i dont like any uppers at all. even pseudoephedrine (the decongestant) makes me feel jittery and uneasy.

when i'm tired the strongest thing i will take is maybe Dr. Pepper.
i dont even drink coffee.

i DO drink a lot of earl grey tea tho... :ponder:

Alexis
2007-05-29, 09:53 AM
Every time I see this thread I think of that "Napien" simpsons episode

"Oh no, you're confusing drugs with DRUUUUUUUUUGGGSSS!!!!"