View Full Version : For the Women: Do you ever feel like you go into heat?
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:22 PM
It seems that men are horny 24/7 they're at their sexual peak. It would also seem that some women are just as horny as men when they're NOT at their peak. But are there any women out there who feel like their libido rises and crashes like a wave from the time in between one period to the next?
To illustrate what I'm saying, here's an explanation of what I go through:
I feel that after my period is over, I get super horny right afterwards (for a couple of days) and then I'm not horny for a while (a week or two) and then my libido surges again towards the start of my next cycle.
Anyone else experiencing like symptoms?
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 04:23 PM
That's how I used to be. Now I just get nothing all the time. Makes me sad.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 04:26 PM
I can be reached at 555-243-5571 Thanks ladies.
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 04:26 PM
doesnt it surge more during the times of the month your most fertal?
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 04:27 PM
That's how I used to be. Now I just get nothing all the time. Makes me sad.
marriage will do that lol :hifive:
maynard
2007-05-10, 04:28 PM
doesnt it surge more during the times of the month your most fertal?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is a scientific explanation here. Something to do with hormones.
Roach
2007-05-10, 04:29 PM
I dont have cycles/phases of horniness........
unless allthetimeconstantly is a phase.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:29 PM
That's how I used to be. Now I just get nothing all the time. Makes me sad.
I used to get almost nothing all the time and then I went on birth control and has less than 0 sex drive (the thought of sex almost made vomit). When I went off birth control I returned to my version of normal but now since I've started to hit my sexual peak, I get these new rises and crashes in my sex drive.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 04:31 PM
I used to get almost nothing all the time and then I went on birth control and has less than 0 sex drive (the thought of sex almost made vomit) and now since I've started to hit my sexual peak, I get these new rises and crashes in my sex drive.
On a side note that is one rockin little smiley in your avatar, he's a rock star.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:31 PM
On a side note that is one rockin little smiley in your avatar, he's a rock star.
ty :D I stole it from Ravyn's photobucket.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:43 PM
doesnt it surge more during the times of the month your most fertal?
I would think so but according to science, a woman only has one to two days during her cycle (the days in between her period) where she can get pregnant so that doesn't explain my surge at the beginning of the month and towards the end unless my body is doing some weird thing when I'm ovulating two times during one cycle.
Anyone else experiencing like symptoms?
I don't really have any crashes - its pretty much steady all the time. However every month, the day before I get my period, I am ready to jump anything that moves. It's like super heat for one day. It's how I always know I am about to start my period.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:46 PM
I don't really have any crashes - its pretty much steady all the time. However every month, the day before I get my period, I am ready to jump anything that moves. It's like super heat for one day. It's how I always know I am about to start my period.
:werd:
I wish I had something more steady like yours.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 04:47 PM
I can be reached at 555-243-5571 Thanks ladies.
You have to stick on topic, with out being an ass, or get out when it comes to the girly shiat threads. :nono: So hush Shiesty.
:werd:
I wish I had something more steady like yours.
Might be an age thing, so it may change for you.
dont make me get the hose again
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 04:49 PM
I used to get almost nothing all the time and then I went on birth control and has less than 0 sex drive (the thought of sex almost made vomit). When I went off birth control I returned to my version of normal but now since I've started to hit my sexual peak, I get these new rises and crashes in my sex drive.
It's so frusturating. It's more frusturating to feel nothing, than too much IMO. I need lady viagra.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:52 PM
It's so frusturating. It's more frusturating to feel nothing, than too much IMO.
it really is, it almost makes you feel less human to be cutoff from that aspect of yourself. that's how it makes me feel anyway.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 04:53 PM
Anyone else experiencing like symptoms?
I experience something like this, but for me it's a little more seasonal. I get crazy spring fever but I go into hibernation during the winter.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 04:55 PM
it really is, it almost makes you feel less human to be cutoff from that aspect of yourself. that's how it makes me feel anyway.
EXACTLY! It gets to the point where I don't even understand other people anymore. It's just so.... numb.
Does anyone know of anything that can help this?
I want to be hornier!
EXACTLY! It gets to the point where I don't even understand other people anymore. It's just so.... numb.
Does anyone know of anything that can help this?
I want to be hornier!
i'd make 2 guesses on this...either your health (what you eat, exercise and whatnot) is effecting you, or your relationship. If you don't think it's your health, then i'd suggest making an appointment to see a psycologist
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 04:59 PM
EXACTLY! It gets to the point where I don't even understand other people anymore. It's just so.... numb.
yes, and if you don't have a super-understanding partner it can put a huge strain on your relationship.
Does anyone know of anything that can help this?
I want to be hornier!
I had a friend who took something, but I can't remember what it was. maybe ask your gyno? (and then report back to us :D)
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:02 PM
i'd make 2 guesses on this...either your health (what you eat, exercise and whatnot) is effecting you, or your relationship. If you don't think it's your health, then i'd suggest making an appointment to see a psycologist
Mostly Wrong & Wrong.
I'm in good health. My suspect is it's a balance of hormones. My relationship is damn near perfect, especially for being settled into marriage. Although I admit that stressing hard over money could be part of it. The problem is, being so young (25) most of the time they will not give you anything for it. I'm also incredibly embarassed to ask my gyn about it. It's bad enough I've gotta spread em'.
My suspect is it's a balance of hormones
I'd say that falls into the health catagory...
I'd say that falls into the health catagory...
thats sexist!
:sillyme:
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:05 PM
I'd say that falls into the health catagory...
That's why I said "mostly" wrong. Because it doesn't mean that I'm not healthy, or that it's anything they will even treat. A lot of doctors just say "that's just part of the deal" more or less, of being at this age.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 05:10 PM
I'm also incredibly embarassed to ask my gyn about it. It's bad enough I've gotta spread em'.
It feel ya, however if I had health insurance and if I wasn't getting my libidinous moods at least twice a cycle I would definitely ask my gyn because life is too short to go through not enjoying or wanting sex for the next 50 or so years.
I think when I get insurance (which should be coming shortly) during my regular yearly checkup i will ask my gyn what a girl can do to boost her mood, just so I'm prepared. I will also report back :bacon:
That's why I said "mostly" wrong. Because it doesn't mean that I'm not healthy, or that it's anything they will even treat. A lot of doctors just say "that's just part of the deal" more or less, of being at this age.
it's times like these that i'm glad i'm not a woman. Though a psycologist might be a bit more helpful than a general practician...or possibly even a psychiatrist (they can write you scripts). In both cases, I'm sure they would be a lot easier for you to talk to about it than your gyn.
jukata
2007-05-10, 05:11 PM
I had a friend who took something, but I can't remember what it was. maybe ask your gyno? (and then report back to us :D)
does said "something" disolve in common bar drinks without a color or taste?
just so I contribute something other than sarcasm here, most girls that had the honor of getting juked on the regular seem to get mega horny around thier peroid. Either before, durring, or right after. I prefer the before type for obvious reasons. Now go adjust your cycles to fit my likes and dislikes, ladies.
jk
The Logic Theorist
2007-05-10, 05:14 PM
It's bad enough I've gotta spread em'.
If he's already up in there I don't see the harm in asking about a lube job.
Alexis
2007-05-10, 05:14 PM
. In both cases, I'm sure they would be a lot easier for you to talk to about it than your gyn.
I would have a much harder time talking to my GP about something like that. She's a conservative little indian woman who constantly scowls and complains about insurance companies ripping her off
My Gyn on the other hand is a really laid back woman who is a nurse midwife. She's the only "doctor" I've ever really been comfortable with.
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 05:14 PM
EXACTLY! It gets to the point where I don't even understand other people anymore. It's just so.... numb.
Does anyone know of anything that can help this?
I want to be hornier!
ive gone through periods like this. there was a good 5 month stretch at one point where i didnt want anything to do with sex at all. and thats the only way i can describe was like you said. i just felt numbed
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 05:17 PM
Mostly Wrong & Wrong.
I'm in good health. My suspect is it's a balance of hormones. My relationship is damn near perfect, especially for being settled into marriage. Although I admit that stressing hard over money could be part of it. The problem is, being so young (25) most of the time they will not give you anything for it. I'm also incredibly embarassed to ask my gyn about it. It's bad enough I've gotta spread em'.
i was about 25 when my "cycles" or whatever you wanna call them for guys started happening to me. im sure im the only guy that will post about this and everyone else will be like "OH IM SUPER VIRAL AND ALWAYS READY. IM A GARDEN OF MASCULINITY BLAH BLAH BLAH"
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:19 PM
it's times like these that i'm glad i'm not a woman. Though a psycologist might be a bit more helpful than a general practician...or possibly even a psychiatrist (they can write you scripts). In both cases, I'm sure they would be a lot easier for you to talk to about it than your gyn.
I know you're trying to help, but I'm actually taking offense. I don't think guys can remotely understand, because it's definitly a female issue. I know it's not a mental health issue. It's a problem, with something that doctors don't consider to be a problem. It's so common, that you usually hear "wait it out". Meanwhile, you feel like it's all your fault.
I'm certainly not going to talk to a psyc before a gyn. Plus, that'd be an extra visit and doctor to set up with, for something that seems to be physical.
Stupid hormones.
another reason i mention going to a shrink is the fact that lack of sex drive can also stem from depression.
I would have a much harder time talking to my GP about it.
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a psycologist might be a bit more helpful than a general practician
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:20 PM
I think I get all offended, because every guy I've talked to about it says I must be depressed, or have issues with men, or something else mental. I'm not fucking crazy just because I don't get horny.
The Logic Theorist
2007-05-10, 05:21 PM
i was about 25 when my "cycles" or whatever you wanna call them for guys started happening to me. im sure im the only guy that will post about this and everyone else will be like "OH IM SUPER VIRAL AND ALWAYS READY. IM A GARDEN OF MASCULINITY BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Are you talking about some kind of monthly on/off cycle?
Cause I definitely have times where sex is the last thing I'd be interested in, but it's always tied to some kind of stress in my life, it's not on a regular cycle.
I know you're trying to help, but I'm actually taking offense. I don't think guys can remotely understand, because it's definitly a female issue. I know it's not a mental health issue. It's a problem, with something that doctors don't consider to be a problem. It's so common, that you usually hear "wait it out". Meanwhile, you feel like it's all your fault.
I'm certainly not going to talk to a psyc before a gyn. Plus, that'd be an extra visit and doctor to set up with, for something that seems to be physical.
Stupid hormones.
well, i'm not sure why you're taking offense...if it's something that might offend you, good chance you shouldn't bring it up on a public message board. I only mentioned talking to a shrink about it because you mentioned the fact that you were uncomfortable talking to your gyn about it. You mention this being a common issue with women your age...if it were truly common, I'm sure I'd have heard something about it before now. Regardless, i'm going to drop it, because my intentions are not to cause offense.
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 05:24 PM
no its not like a regular cycle, thats just the only word i could think of for it. i just go through phases or cycles or whatever you wanna call it where im just not interested in sex at all. nothing to do with stress or anything like that is just happens. and it can last for weeks. and then ill go through periods were i want to fuck all the time.
OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-10, 05:25 PM
Are you talking about some kind of monthly on/off cycle?
Cause I definitely have times where sex is the last thing I'd be interested in, but it's always tied to some kind of stress in my life, it's not on a regular cycle.
yup, that and depression usually get me pretty bad.
it's been to the point where i've literally kicked a girl out of bed because she wouldn't stop trying to fuck me.
granted, i had been dating her forever and the thought of her at this point made my stomach start to churn...but whatever.
madeofwires
2007-05-10, 05:25 PM
i actually did some net research on things to help boost a womans sex drive, and can't really remember what i found, but it didn't really jump out at me as something i wanted to try. defly talk to a dr about it thou, and you shouldn't have to be embarassed about it, and if you are, maybe you should find another dr.............
as for me, i defly go thru cycles, and i think i am most horny on my period. talk about suck :(
bboyneko
2007-05-10, 05:27 PM
I don't understand this "not interested in sex" phrase, is it an allegory? some sort of ironic impossibility like a "round square"?
and i think i am most horny on my period.
this is pretty much the case with all women...hormones and such
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:28 PM
If he's already up in there I don't see the harm in asking about a lube job.
HER. HER. SHE.
I will NEVER see a guy. There's too much... opening, and prodding, and *shiver* contraptions.
However my piercer is a guy, who did my hood, and he's a friend. We went out later that night and I was being vague about something, so he goes "Tasha, I've seen your box, just spill it". I was rather mortified.
The Logic Theorist
2007-05-10, 05:29 PM
HER. HER. SHE.
I will NEVER see a guy. There's too much... opening, and prodding, and *shiver* contraptions.
However my piercer is a guy, who did my hood, and he's a friend. We went out later that night and I was being vague about something, so he goes "Tasha, I've seen your box, just spill it". I was rather mortified.
:afterbuzz:
The Logic Theorist
2007-05-10, 05:29 PM
I don't understand this "not interested in sex" phrase, is it an allegory? some sort of ironic impossibility like a "round square"?
For those of us that get it on the regular, it's not such a novelty anymore.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:32 PM
well, i'm not sure why you're taking offense...if it's something that might offend you, good chance you shouldn't bring it up on a public message board. I only mentioned talking to a shrink about it because you mentioned the fact that you were uncomfortable talking to your gyn about it. You mention this being a common issue with women your age...if it were truly common, I'm sure I'd have heard something about it before now. Regardless, i'm going to drop it, because my intentions are not to cause offense.
It's just that guys always seem to think that we're crazy if we don't want sex, it's not you. I was hoping for other ideas from ladies, because they understand what I mean. I'm uncomfortable talking to my gyn about it because they're just going to tell me no again, and that makes me even more upset.
The Logic Theorist
2007-05-10, 05:32 PM
It's just that guys always seem to think that we're crazy if we don't want sex, it's not you. I was hoping for other ideas from ladies, because they understand what I mean. I'm uncomfortable talking to my gyn about it because they're just going to tell me no again, and that makes me even more upset.
Actually we just think you're crazy because you're women.
madeofwires
2007-05-10, 05:34 PM
some medications also affect sex drives if u are on any...
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 05:36 PM
Just birth control and insulin. The birth control seems to help actually, but it's still not enough.
Jenni XO
2007-05-10, 05:36 PM
I just go through spurts. I'll go a couple months where all I want is sex. Then I'll go a couple months where I may just want sex here and there. It drives Matti insane.
When I was on BC I always wanted it. Which is why I ended up with two kids. :D
I will NEVER see a guy. There's too much... opening, and prodding, and *shiver* contraptions.
I almost always prefer seeing a man. In my experiences, men gynos have always been a lot more careful and gentle than women. Maybe its cause they don't have the parts so they will never know exactly how it feels.
I am bitter that Dr Harry Beaver is no longer practicing. When I saw him in my insurance book I nearly died. Google him if you don't believe me.
bboyneko
2007-05-10, 05:36 PM
Well I dunno theres also the opposite end of the spectrum, the girl im seeing now is probably a certified sex addict, ive never known such a drive was possible. Still not sure if its a bad or good thing.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 05:46 PM
I am bitter that Dr Harry Beaver is no longer practicing. When I saw him in my insurance book I nearly died. Google him if you don't believe me.
:haha: oh my god that's freakin awesome.
I myself would never go see a guy doctor. I've only had one gyno that i've actually liked, and that was cause at my first gyno appointment she took the speculum and pretended it was a duck and went "quack quack."
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 05:49 PM
You have to stick on topic, with out being an ass, or get out when it comes to the girly shiat threads. :nono: So hush Shiesty.
huh! fine! :gotme:
The Logic Theorist
2007-05-10, 05:49 PM
:haha: oh my god that's freakin awesome.
I myself would never go see a guy doctor. I've only had one gyno that i've actually liked, and that was cause at my first gyno appointment she took the speculum and pretended it was a duck and went "quack quack."
These 2 ducks have slipped away to a fancy hotel to get it on. They're getting all hot and bothered, and the female duck asks the male duck if he has a condom. He realizes he's a duck and doesn't wear any pants, so he calls room service to have a condom sent up.
The bell hop arrives with the condom, all fancy on a silver tray, and the duck thanks him.
The bell hop says, "Would you like me to put that on your bill?"
And the duck says...
"Certainly not! What kind of pervert do you think I am?"
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 05:52 PM
I think I get all offended, because every guy I've talked to about it says I must be depressed, or have issues with men, or something else mental. I'm not fucking crazy just because I don't get horny.
OK now I get this thread, sorry bout earlier didn't mean to offend you ladies. :freakout:
GiveMeFunkyBeats
2007-05-10, 05:52 PM
In Re: Phill's post
:chairfall:
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 05:56 PM
HER. HER. SHE.
I will NEVER see a guy. There's too much... opening, and prodding, and *shiver* contraptions.
However my piercer is a guy, who did my hood, and he's a friend. We went out later that night and I was being vague about something, so he goes "Tasha, I've seen your box, just spill it". I was rather mortified.
:whoa: That would be rather um awkward after hearing that.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 05:57 PM
Actually we just think you're crazy because you're women.
:hifive:
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 05:57 PM
Just birth control and insulin. The birth control seems to help actually, but it's still not enough.
You my dear need oysters, lots of yummy slithery oysters.
It's just that guys always seem to think that we're crazy if we don't want sex, it's not you. I was hoping for other ideas from ladies, because they understand what I mean. I'm uncomfortable talking to my gyn about it because they're just going to tell me no again, and that makes me even more upset.
Taking a quick stab in the dark here...you mention not being crazy a lot...like a whole lot...like someone who is trying to convince themselves otherwise, a lot. Don't take this the wrong way, just an observation.
The reason guys mention mental issues (which != crazy) a lot is because most of the time, that's the cause of lack of sexual desire. In the few cases that are very much like yours with women i've known, they all were due to some sort of depression. The Hormonal imbalance you mentioned having is known to be a cause of depression (commonly refered to as brain chemical imbalance) and just because you're not "sad" does not in any way, shape or form mean that you don't suffer from depression. Doc's telling you that it's natural and common and will fix itself just shows that they don't know...not that it can't be treated...you just have to go to a doc that has specialized in the field. Yes, I know this is probably very similar to what you've said you've already heard from other guys...it's not because I think you're crazy though...it's more because I feel that lack of sexual drive is a serious issue.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:02 PM
And there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 06:04 PM
And there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain.
you're being glib
And there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain.
you fail...keep trying though
(ps, any chem imbalance in your body effects your brain, the center of everything you do)
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:06 PM
:haha: oh my god that's freakin awesome.
I myself would never go see a guy doctor. I've only had one gyno that i've actually liked, and that was cause at my first gyno appointment she took the speculum and pretended it was a duck and went "quack quack."
I would have run away.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:06 PM
These 2 ducks have slipped away to a fancy hotel to get it on. They're getting all hot and bothered, and the female duck asks the male duck if he has a condom. He realizes he's a duck and doesn't wear any pants, so he calls room service to have a condom sent up.
The bell hop arrives with the condom, all fancy on a silver tray, and the duck thanks him.
The bell hop says, "Would you like me to put that on your bill?"
And the duck says...
"Certainly not! What kind of pervert do you think I am?"
you're my favoritest cornball ever.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:08 PM
I would have run away.
It made me laugh, which also made me relax, which meant it was easier for mister duck to get in.
I also laughed my ass off during the breast exam because I'm ticklish as hell.
PaulieWalnuts
2007-05-10, 06:08 PM
I think I get all offended, because every guy I've talked to about it says I must be depressed, or have issues with men, or something else mental. I'm not fucking crazy just because I don't get horny.
I think this is because you never met bboyneko's avatar. If you did, your whole life would change...
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 06:10 PM
I think I get all offended, because every guy I've talked to about it says I must be depressed, or have issues with men, or something else mental. I'm not fucking crazy just because I don't get horny.
i didnt :sadpanda:
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:11 PM
Taking a quick stab in the dark here...you mention not being crazy a lot...like a whole lot...like someone who is trying to convince themselves otherwise, a lot. Don't take this the wrong way, just an observation.
The reason guys mention mental issues (which != crazy) a lot is because most of the time, that's the cause of lack of sexual desire. In the few cases that are very much like yours with women i've known, they all were due to some sort of depression. The Hormonal imbalance you mentioned having is known to be a cause of depression (commonly refered to as brain chemical imbalance) and just because you're not "sad" does not in any way, shape or form mean that you don't suffer from depression. Doc's telling you that it's natural and common and will fix itself just shows that they don't know...not that it can't be treated...you just have to go to a doc that has specialized in the field. Yes, I know this is probably very similar to what you've said you've already heard from other guys...it's not because I think you're crazy though...it's more because I feel that lack of sexual drive is a serious issue.
SHUT UP YOU THINK I'M CRAZY I NOT CRAZY I KILL YOU!
I guess it's that I have weird medical stuff. I'm on hormone replacement therapy and blah blah blah. Also, when I try to talk to new doctors about stuff, I'm such a rare care, that unless I beat it into them what I feel is going on with my body they pass a lot of it off, they think I should talk to someone else. I've talked to 1 therapist briefly, who basically told me I was very well adjusted. So back to square 1, with the physical doctors, who thus far have been severly lacking. A lot of the other women I've talked to with a similar cocktail of autoimmune crap, often say they have to take treatment in their own hands because doctors never do as much as you hope they will.
I'm going to go run in circles outside.
I know I'm nuts, but I don't think it's in regard to issues with men. Daddy never touched me.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:12 PM
you fail...keep trying though
(ps, any chem imbalance in your body effects your brain, the center of everything you do)
you fail..
There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. And psychiatric drugs are very harmful. The proof is easy to come by.
The fact that he's getting slammed by the press and talk show hosts also proves something. It proves that the multibillion-dollar brainwashing campaign put forth by the drug companies and the APA (American Psychiatric Association) has been successful.
I'm sure you've seen the cute little Zoloft cartoons. A sad circle takes Zoloft and turns into a happy circle. How wonderfully simple it all is. But let's take a look at what the commercial is actually saying:
“No one knows what causes depression. One theory is that there's a chemical imbalance in your brain. Zoloft works to correct this imbalance.”
All right, let's examine these statements. “No one knows what causes depression.” I can live with that.
Line two: “One theory is that there's a chemical imbalance in the brain.” No problem. Its a theory.
Line three: “Zoloft works to correct this imbalance.” What! In three lines we went from “No one knows…,” to “One theory is…,” to Zoloft cures it! Cures what? A theory?
And the average person watching this overt lie doesn't get it. They're also not told that Zoloft and all the other psychiatric drugs can cause depression, suicide and mania, to mention just a few side effects. (Many psychiatric patients experience these things when taking the drugs. The doctors tell them that they always had these mental disorders and that the drug is just bringing them out. Another lie.)
Out of the millions of people who have been told by their doctors that they have a chemical imbalance in their brain, not one of them can show you their lab test report.
Why? Because there are no lab tests for chemical imbalances in the brain. In fact, no one knows exactly what the chemical balance of the brain should be. What we do know for sure is that drugs cause a chemical imbalance in the body. The diagnosis, like all psychiatric diagnosis is completely subjective. “But,” you say, “they are the experts in the field of the mind. Surely if they say I'm crazy I must be crazy!”
Well, exactly how expert are they? In her book, Whores of the Court, Dr. Margaret Hagen points out that child psychological professionals are worse than chance at determining when kids are lying. That in almost two out of three cases psych professionals incorrectly predict which criminals will repeat their offenses. And that therapy for convicted sex offenders and batterers doesn't work.
The magazine, Psychology Today, had an article a few years back showing that mental health experts had more suicides, more drug abuse problems and more divorces than any other profession. Would you take your car to a mechanic who couldn't fix his own car?
Is psychiatry a pseudoscience?
Psychology and psychiatry went wrong 100 years ago when they decided to use a medical model for mental and spiritual problems. Claiming that man was nothing more than a stimulus-response animal with no soul, all mental problems became medical problems with the brain. This meant they were forced to look for physical solutions to all mental and spiritual problems (drugs, lobotomies, shock treatment).
No matter how hard mental practitioners try to prove mental illness is physical, their studies are always disproved. All scientists go through a process where they develop a theory then do experiments to prove or disprove the theory. Once they have success they write it up in their journals so other scientists can independently test the theory to see if they get the same results. Only after its been proven this way does it get broadly published to the public as a new discovery.
Psychs, on the other hand, develop a theory, do some experiments, then write a book and go on talk shows. The public hears these “studies” and assumes they're scientific. The public never hears that the theory was disproved–even by other psychs! So the flawed theory gets into the public mind as fact.
A while ago I was watching a congressional hearing on the over-drugging of children. The first psychiatrist, an APA man, had very impressive full color charts showing how kids with ADHD had a ten percent shrinkage in their brains. Very impressive. Physical proof that ADHD exists. Until another psychiatrist showed that it was actually Ritalin that causes brain shrinkage.
Another fact the public isn't privy to, ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) was voted into existence. There is no physical proof for ADHD or any of the other almost 400 so-called mental disorders. (See, Making Us Crazy—DSM: The Psychiatric Bible and the Creation of Mental Disorders, by Herb Kutchins and Stuart Kirk.)
You might be reading this and thinking, “But I know a kid who was totally uncontrollable until he took Ritalin. There must be truth in what the doctors say.” Sorry, what you're looking at is a kid with a problem. It could be any number of things: bored out of his mind, allergies, too much sugar, discipline or study related problems. But a problem is not a disease. Taking Ritalin, or Prozac or whatever, does not cure anything. It just shuts you up. If you take an aspirin you haven't cured your headache. The aspirin just desensitized your nervous system so you couldn't feel the headache. But the headache is still there. And what’s causing the headache is still there.
The psychs claim taking Prozac is comparable to a diabetic taking insulin. But diabetes is not a problem. It's a physical thing that can be seen in a lab. Depression is not.
The psych drugs don't cure anything. They just desensitize your emotions. Good and bad ones. And when the drug wears off the problem is still there.
It takes courage to put your career on the line and say something that goes against the majority belief. The powers-that-be are trying to crucify Tom Cruise and divert our attention from finding the truth. And the truth is the new religion of the day is psychiatry. Try to criticize them and you've got a mental disorder. Sound crazy? Then you never heard of Non Compliance With Treatment disorder. No, I'm not making this up. Disagree with your doctor and you've got a mental illness! Talk about a Catch-22.
So is psychiatry a pseudoscience? Chances are your grandmother was more effective in handling life than your shrink.
— Neal Fox
I'm on hormone replacement therapy
I would say that right there is the issue...had I known this previously I probably wouldn't have said anything. Have you tried ecstacy? :D
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:14 PM
It made me laugh, which also made me relax, which meant it was easier for mister duck to get in.
I also laughed my ass off during the breast exam because I'm ticklish as hell.
I did laugh during my breast exam, because my doctor was floored at the sight of nipple rings. She was like "is it going to hurt if I touch them?" (when they do that squeeze thing checking for whatever. She even called the nurse over and was like "look what she's got".
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 06:15 PM
I would say that right there is the issue...had I known this previously I probably wouldn't have said anything. Have you tried ecstacy? :D
isnt that the date rape drug? ive heard about it on fox 5. thats where they have those raves at that nations place
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:16 PM
I would say that right there is the issue...had I known this previously I probably wouldn't have said anything. Have you tried ecstacy? :D
Hormone replacement therapy is simple in that instead of producing enough estrogen myself, a pill just puts it in for me. But it's complicated in that figuring out 'That right there is the issue" doesn't mean I'm any closer to finding what the actual problem is. Plus this happens to women who aren't on it.
and uh... I was never ever horny when I uh... did... things. heh.
:ontome:
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:18 PM
I've always heard that testosterone was the horny maker and estrogen stemmed horniness. I couldn't tell you where I heard that though.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:19 PM
That sound very official and medical. lol!
I did take half a viagra once. It was... interesting.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:19 PM
I would say that right there is the issue...had I known this previously I probably wouldn't have said anything. Have you tried ecstacy? :D
:plur: :hypnotized:
— Neal Fox
who the fuck is Neal Fox and where did he get his so-called info?
If you think your body doesn't produce hormones, and some bodies don't have issues with under/over production of them, then you're a tard. As far as your article goes, I don't see any scientific evidence presented, and therefore view it as Mr. Fox's opinion. I'm out the door, maybe I'll give it another read when I get home.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:21 PM
Hormone replacement therapy is simple in that instead of producing enough estrogen myself, a pill just puts it in for me. But it's complicated in that figuring out 'That right there is the issue" doesn't mean I'm any closer to finding what the actual problem is. Plus this happens to women who aren't on it.
and uh... I was never ever horny when I uh... did... things. heh.
:ontome:
damn it that's the smiley I was looking for!
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 06:21 PM
is brock playing around or did he really not know that was from the crazy tom cruise interview
Funshine
2007-05-10, 06:21 PM
who the fuck is Neal Fox and where did he get his so-called info?
If you think your body doesn't produce hormones, and some bodies don't have issues with under/over production of them, then you're a tard. As far as your article goes, I don't see any scientific evidence presented, and therefore view it as Mr. Fox's opinion. I'm out the door, maybe I'll give it another read when I get home.
Dude, don't even bother. This is one topic where you really don't need to prove anything.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:23 PM
is brock playing around or did he really not know that was from the crazy tom cruise interview
:homestar:
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:23 PM
Why are guys all up in here anyway?
Buttheads.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:24 PM
That sound very official and medical. lol!
I did take half a viagra once. It was... interesting.
I dunno I just swear I've heard that correlation somewhere before :shrug:
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:25 PM
Dude, don't even bother. This is one topic where you really don't need to prove anything.
Show me proof of any expert showing there's a such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Has anyone here even studied neurology?
I think the first paragraph here pretty much sums up my point..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:26 PM
Why are guys all up in here anyway?
Buttheads.
Guess I don't count! :sadblue: :sillyme:
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 06:27 PM
Why are guys all up in here anyway?
Most men love hearing women talk about sex, even if they're talking about a sexual problem.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:27 PM
I dunno I just swear I've heard that correlation somewhere before :shrug:
testostrone makes you more aggressive, the more you have it of it, estrogen gives the opposite affect. That's why you don't fuck with women who have mustaches.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:27 PM
Shiesty, do you have a vagina?
Wait, nevermind.
Just get out.
:)
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:27 PM
Show me proof of any expert showing there's a such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Has anyone here even studied neurology?
I think the first paragraph here pretty much sums up my point..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
Dear Shawn:
Wikipedia is run and edited by anyone on the internet. Anyone. Therefore it is not a viable source of information, it's only a source of what some yahoo on the internet says is right.
-Celia
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:27 PM
Most men love hearing women talk about sex, even if they're talking about a sexual problem.
:staats: :redlight:
Funshine
2007-05-10, 06:28 PM
Show me proof of any expert showing there's a such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Has anyone here even studied neurology?
I think the first paragraph here pretty much sums up my point..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
I don't have to show you proof. Because I've argued with you before and I've never influenced your beliefs on anything.... Because all either of us really has is the internet to use to quickly look up and quote as a source :shrug:
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:28 PM
testostrone makes you more aggressive, the more you have it of it, estrogen gives the opposite affect. That's why you don't fuck with women who have mustaches.
I know that. I'm just too fucking lazy to find the study that said testosterone=horny.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:29 PM
Shiesty speaks from his ass. I'll whoops him next time I see him.
Funshine
2007-05-10, 06:30 PM
Yes he does. And it's okay, I'm just not going to sit and argue :yes:
*huggles*
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 06:30 PM
Show me proof of any expert showing there's a such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Has anyone here even studied neurology?
I think the first paragraph here pretty much sums up my point..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
Dude, have you ever gotten drunk or gotten high? Obviously when you effect your brain chemistry it changes your perception. Why is it such a stretch to believe that sometimes our "equipment" sometimes malfunctions and that part of that malfunctioning occurs when the brain doesn't have the necessary ingredients to do its job?
OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-10, 06:31 PM
Most men love hearing women talk about sex, even if they're talking about a sexual problem.
I'm here for the gyno and lube talk.
seriously though, there are methods and ways to increase the libido. The most natural being keeping romance in a relationship alive.
the second is drugs.
the third is stop jerking off so much(for guys)
madeofwires
2007-05-10, 06:31 PM
Show me proof of any expert showing there's a such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Has anyone here even studied neurology?
I think the first paragraph here pretty much sums up my point..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
i can't give you any proof but i can say ever since i've been on anti depressants i don't feel like killing myself anymore
/tmi
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:33 PM
Dear Shawn:
Wikipedia is run and edited by anyone on the internet. Anyone. Therefore it is not a viable source of information, it's only a source of what some yahoo on the internet says is right.
-Celia
Dear Celia,
In response to your reply please visit Google and type "is chemical imbalance in the brain real".
Then take your pick at any article. Here's one for you:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/ashbarry.htm
-Shawn
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:34 PM
Shiesty, do you have a vagina?
Wait, nevermind.
Just get out.
:)
Ive had quite a few in my days why? :hifive:
maynard
2007-05-10, 06:35 PM
I'm here for the gyno and lube talk.
seriously though, there are methods and ways to increase the libido. The most natural being keeping romance in a relationship alive.
the second is drugs.
the third is stop jerking off so much(for guys)
How much would you say is too much?
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:36 PM
Dude, have you ever gotten drunk or gotten high? Obviously when you effect your brain chemistry it changes your perception. Why is it such a stretch to believe that sometimes our "equipment" sometimes malfunctions and that part of that malfunctioning occurs when the brain doesn't have the necessary ingredients to do its job?
Um, getting drunk or getting high doesn't cause an "imbalance" in your brain, again show me something that shows a literal chemical imbalance in your brain.
OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-10, 06:36 PM
How much would you say is too much?
dunno...if it's like 5 times a day, slow down...once a day should be enough, or every other day.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:36 PM
Dear Celia,
In response to your reply please visit Google and type "is chemical imbalance in the brain real".
Then take your pick at any article. Here's one for you:
http://www.benzo.org.uk/ashbarry.htm
-Shawn
Dear Shawn,
That article is acceptable for debate.
- Research Nazi
PS. Although it would not hold up in a term paper
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:38 PM
i can't give you any proof but i can say ever since i've been on anti depressants i don't feel like killing myself anymore
/tmi
Well that is truly a good thing, I won't comment further on that because that is personal to you and I am not here to offend but play devil's advocate as I am still awaiting proof.
Plus, all the drugs on the current market had to be tested before approval, what about the many cases when the studies were given placebo's and they all showed symptoms of being "balanced" from whatever "chemical imbalance" they had?
What say you of them?
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:39 PM
dunno...if it's like 5 times a day, slow down...once a day should be enough, or every other day.
Nothing...wrong...with ..5 times a day...humph
maynard
2007-05-10, 06:40 PM
Well that is truly a good thing, I won't comment further on that because that is personal to you and I am not here to offend but play devil's advocate as I am still awaiting proof.
Plus, all the drugs on the current market had to be tested before approval, what about the many cases when the studies were given placebo's and they all showed symptoms of being "balanced" from whatever "chemical imbalance" they had?
What say you of them?
LOL. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:41 PM
Dear Shawn,
That article is acceptable for debate.
- Research Nazi
PS. Although it would not hold up in a term paper
I could go all day baby:
http://www.cchr.org/index.cfm/9027/5665
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:41 PM
Um, getting drunk or getting high doesn't cause an "imbalance" in your brain, again show me something that shows a literal chemical imbalance in your brain.
I love you Shawn, but you're way off base.
For example, if you have a drug that increases the amount of dopamine in your brain, and before you take the drug, you feel sad and that you cannot do basic things to take care of yourself properly, then by taking it, you are giving yourself a correct balance of chemicals (chemicals, hormones, whatever) in your brain / intestines (where a lot of these are located too).
EVEN if you can't directly prove the existance of said chemicals, by sticking a needle in the brain and pulling them out, it's ridiculous to say that every anti depressant drug produced, just happens to alter mood.
"Imbalance" is a relative term.
If putting legal and illegal substances into your body isn't changing chemicals to alter you, then what exactly, are they doing?
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:42 PM
LOL. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Yet as you all laugh no one has shown me proof of the chemical imbalance theory.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:43 PM
Well that is truly a good thing, I won't comment further on that because that is personal to you and I am not here to offend but play devil's advocate as I am still awaiting proof.
Plus, all the drugs on the current market had to be tested before approval, what about the many cases when the studies were given placebo's and they all showed symptoms of being "balanced" from whatever "chemical imbalance" they had?
What say you of them?
Then those people, which is not a medically relevant percentage, should be seeing a therapist, not a pill.
Come on now.
I'm REALLY going to beat your ass at Starscape.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 06:43 PM
Um, getting drunk or getting high doesn't cause an "imbalance" in your brain, again show me something that shows a literal chemical imbalance in your brain.
um, yes it does.
Raver 101: esctacy increases your seratonin level.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:43 PM
I love you Shawn, but you're way off base.
For example, if you have a drug that increases the amount of dopamine in your brain, and before you take the drug, you feel sad and that you cannot do basic things to take care of yourself properly, then by taking it, you are giving yourself a correct balance of chemicals (chemicals, hormones, whatever) in your brain / intestines (where a lot of these are located too).
EVEN if you can't directly prove the existance of said chemicals, by sticking a needle in the brain and pulling them out, it's ridiculous to say that every anti depressant drug produced, just happens to alter mood.
"Imbalance" is a relative term.
If putting legal and illegal substances into your body isn't changing chemicals to alter you, then what exactly, are they doing?
You're missing my point. These drugs alter you, I am asking -absent of said drugs, how does any random person's BRAIN, all of a sudden present itself with a chemical imbalance, free of any mind altering psychotrophic substances?
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:44 PM
Then those people, which is not a medically relevant percentage, should be seeing a therapist, not a pill.
Come on now.
I'm REALLY going to beat your ass at Starscape.
:mj3: :lessthanthree: promise?
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:44 PM
Yet as you all laugh no one has shown me proof of the chemical imbalance theory.
I have incriminating photo's of you, fucker.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:44 PM
I could go all day baby:
http://www.cchr.org/index.cfm/9027/5665
uh yeah, I actually don't give a crap about these articles or what they say.
I'm just picky about what people use for supposed "proof" of their causes.
I mean any fucking crack pot can put an article online. but something from a verifiable web source like cnn or bbc or published on an education website (ending in .edu) are more likely to be well supported.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:45 PM
I have incriminating photo's of you, fucker.
:ontome: oh noess ok I stop, just causing a little ruckus before I head to the gym
OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-10, 06:46 PM
Um, getting drunk or getting high doesn't cause an "imbalance" in your brain, again show me something that shows a literal chemical imbalance in your brain.
to be honest, most 'chemical imbalance' theory shit is made up by medical supply companies(pharm, etc.)
depression and the like stem from MANY sources though, such as diet, overall health, surroundings, your life as a whole, etc., but the seratonin drugs such as prozac and the like help alleviate peoples depression caused by the lack of seratonin in their brains, whether it's naturall caused or caused by the persons diet, etc.
this ONLY refers to depression though. MD or Bi-polar, as well as schizophrenia are in fact hard core imbalances in the brain, as well as epilepsy and the like and require far more treatment...infact, the only thing i have to give credit to pharm companies for is seriously helping people out with these(albeit at an incredible profit)
ps. http://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20051107/essay-questions-role-of-antidepressants
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:46 PM
uh yeah, I actually don't give a crap about these articles or what they say.
I'm just picky about what people use for supposed "proof" of their causes.
I mean any fucking crack pot can put an article online. but something from a verifiable web source like cnn or bbc or published on an education website (ending in .edu) are more likely to be well supported.
Still waiting for you to show me proof that such thing exist...:oolong:
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:47 PM
You're missing my point. These drugs alter you, I am asking -absent of said drugs, how does any random person's BRAIN, all of a sudden present itself with a chemical imbalance, free of any mind altering psychotrophic substances?
How does one's body shut down, or screw up anything?
How did my body stop producing insulin? Why do some people produce too MUCH insulin, like Missa? Why is my thyroid shutting down on it's own?
We have introduced so many chemicals into our air, food, things we put on our body, just our lives in general, that it's even more ridiculous to say our bodies don't change what they do and don't produce over time.
We are NOT naturally perfectly run machines. We have taken evolution into our own, medically driven hands.
FutonBunny
2007-05-10, 06:47 PM
Still waiting for you to show me proof that such thing exist...:oolong:
I'm still waiting for you to get that I don't give an ever loving crap if it exists or not.
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 06:48 PM
You're missing my point. These drugs alter you, I am asking -absent of said drugs, how does any random person's BRAIN, all of a sudden present itself with a chemical imbalance, free of any mind altering psychotrophic substances?
the people who are born with depression, i.e. lack of seratonin and/or dopamine.
or how about people with bipolar disorder?
or people with schizophrenia? sure, normally functioning brains lead you to see and hear things that aren't really there.
if brain (and therefore chemical) malfunctions aren't the issue in these cases, then what is wrong with these people?
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:48 PM
Still waiting for you to show me proof that such thing exist...:oolong:
If you were to go toe to toe using internet articles, there is far more "proof" that they do exist, rather than they don't.
Don't rely on doctor google to prove a point, use some logic.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:49 PM
the people who are born with depression, i.e. lack of seratonin and/or dopamine.
or how about people with bipolar disorder?
or people with schizophrenia? sure, normally functioning brains lead you to see and hear things that aren't really there.
if brain (and therefore chemical) malfunctions aren't the issue in these cases, then what is wrong with these people?
That was another point I was typing.
Shawn, you remember my ex, Tony?
Yeeeeeeah. There's some proof if I ever saw some.
OhNoesIt'sJohn
2007-05-10, 06:49 PM
I'm still waiting for you to get that I don't give an ever loving crap if it exists or not.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/search?fulltext=chemical+imbalance
seems to be mostly pro.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:52 PM
to be honest, most 'chemical imbalance' theory shit is made up by medical supply companies(pharm, etc.)
depression and the like stem from MANY sources though, such as diet, overall health, surroundings, your life as a whole, etc., but the seratonin drugs such as prozac and the like help alleviate peoples depression caused by the lack of seratonin in their brains, whether it's naturall caused or caused by the persons diet, etc.
this ONLY refers to depression though. MD or Bi-polar, as well as schizophrenia are in fact hard core imbalances in the brain, as well as epilepsy and the like and require far more treatment...infact, the only thing i have to give credit to pharm companies for is seriously helping people out with these(albeit at an incredible profit)
ps. http://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20051107/essay-questions-role-of-antidepressants
You are absolutely correct it does help them, but just because a certain drug is targeting something like seratonin and the person is "fine" doesn't mean it helped balance a chemical imbalance.
Fact of the matter is, neurologist and scientist alike just don't know. As it stands now, it's a cop out, and until they can show me a lab test that shows a concreate chemical inbalance in the brain I'll stand my ground.
I guess all these guys in this article just because it doesn't come from cnn or a .edu site don't really have medical degrees.
http://www.cchr.org/files/13676/BLAMING%20THE%20BRAIN,%20The%20Chemical%20Imbalance%20Fraud.pdf
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:53 PM
I'm still waiting for you to get that I don't give an ever loving crap if it exists or not.
Then why even debate with me on this subject?
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 06:54 PM
That was another point I was typing.
Shawn, you remember my ex, Tony?
Yeeeeeeah. There's some proof if I ever saw some.
oh christ. ya thats a realy good example
lupitanahsee
2007-05-10, 06:55 PM
SHUT UP YOU THINK I'M CRAZY I NOT CRAZY I KILL YOU!
I guess it's that I have weird medical stuff. I'm on hormone replacement therapy and blah blah blah. Also, when I try to talk to new doctors about stuff, I'm such a rare care, that unless I beat it into them what I feel is going on with my body they pass a lot of it off, they think I should talk to someone else. I've talked to 1 therapist briefly, who basically told me I was very well adjusted. So back to square 1, with the physical doctors, who thus far have been severly lacking. A lot of the other women I've talked to with a similar cocktail of autoimmune crap, often say they have to take treatment in their own hands because doctors never do as much as you hope they will.
I'm going to go run in circles outside.
I know I'm nuts, but I don't think it's in regard to issues with men. Daddy never touched me.
if you have recently gone through menopause, really all you can do is wait it out. your body is still in a massive adjustment stage. im not sure if it is FDA approved for women to be prescribed viagra...and im not so sure that it would be prescribed for sex drive issues...its more of an aid in achieving orgasm because it increases blood flow...but it is something you should speak to you GYN about next time you visit. i would imagine the hormone issues coupled with the diabetes would wreak havock (hormones for obvious reasons and the diabetes because it decreases the blood flowing to the goods) bring your husband with you if you need a little moral support or someone to answer some questions for you that may be embarassing.
as for me, im at a constant state of semi horny til about a week before my period...then the crawling up the walls begins. like jill, the day right before, im ready to crawl out of my freaking skin.
the only times i have not been like that were when i was depressed or super stressed.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:56 PM
How does one's body shut down, or screw up anything?
How did my body stop producing insulin? Why do some people produce too MUCH insulin, like Missa? Why is my thyroid shutting down on it's own?
We have introduced so many chemicals into our air, food, things we put on our body, just our lives in general, that it's even more ridiculous to say our bodies don't change what they do and don't produce over time.
We are NOT naturally perfectly run machines. We have taken evolution into our own, medically driven hands.
Tash I am not getting into anything personal, I would answer that and it wouldn't offend you but that is a personal thing and I will refrain from that as I am just having debate. :plur:
Chrississippi
2007-05-10, 06:56 PM
You are absolutely correct it does help them, but just because a certain drug is targeting something like seratonin and the person is "fine" doesn't mean it helped balance a chemical imbalance.
how do you figure? If a person has a serotonin imbalance and they're given medication that specifically targets serotonin which makes the patient better, how could you possibly say it's anything else?
that's like giving someone with scurvy vitamin C supplements and saying, "well, they got better, but I'm just not sure it's the vitamin C that did it".
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 06:59 PM
if you have recently gone through menopause, really all you can do is wait it out. your body is still in a massive adjustment stage. im not sure if it is FDA approved for women to be prescribed viagra...and im not so sure that it would be prescribed for sex drive issues...its more of an aid in achieving orgasm because it increases blood flow...but it is something you should speak to you GYN about next time you visit. i would imagine the hormone issues coupled with the diabetes would wreak havock (hormones for obvious reasons and the diabetes because it decreases the blood flowing to the goods) bring your husband with you if you need a little moral support or someone to answer some questions for you that may be embarassing.
as for me, im at a constant state of semi horny til about a week before my period...then the crawling up the walls begins. like jill, the day right before, im ready to crawl out of my freaking skin.
the only times i have not been like that were when i was depressed or super stressed.
Menopause is kind of frightening, I first experienced when I was 13 as my neighbor whom all the kids in our court, including me, were very close to had it happen.
She literally broke down mentally and it scared the parents of the other children, my dad still let me go try to talk to her but her husband ignored her. Sadly, she was doing all kinds of things that werent in the norm. Like telling us her backyard garden was magical and she was out there with soil in her hand in the rain like putting up to her mouth.
Walking in the middle of the court when it was pouring down in her nighties, just aimlessly wandering around. YOu'd think her husband would have cared to bring her in (I did it) but he was sitting on his computer ignoring the situation.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 06:59 PM
Tash I am not getting into anything personal, I would answer that and it wouldn't offend you but that is a personal thing and I will refrain from that as I am just having debate. :plur:
I'm just using examples that are easy to relate to, and wrap your brain around. I think it's better than pulling articles from online.
Debates are fine and dandy, but they're frusturating and not fun, if you keep using the same "point" over and over.
Your mom is a debate.
BuzzCat
2007-05-10, 07:02 PM
if you have recently gone through menopause, really all you can do is wait it out. your body is still in a massive adjustment stage. im not sure if it is FDA approved for women to be prescribed viagra...and im not so sure that it would be prescribed for sex drive issues...its more of an aid in achieving orgasm because it increases blood flow...but it is something you should speak to you GYN about next time you visit. i would imagine the hormone issues coupled with the diabetes would wreak havock (hormones for obvious reasons and the diabetes because it decreases the blood flowing to the goods) bring your husband with you if you need a little moral support or someone to answer some questions for you that may be embarassing.
So far, I haven't been diabetic long enough to worry about any complications. My A1C is always around 6.3-6.5 (highest 6.8) so I'm not as concerned with that.
The menopausal stuff was almost 10 years ago. I'm sure that has something to do with it tho.
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 07:05 PM
I suggest cognitive-behavioral therapy to all of you!
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 07:06 PM
I'm just using examples that are easy to relate to, and wrap your brain around. I think it's better than pulling articles from online.
Debates are fine and dandy, but they're frusturating and not fun, if you keep using the same "point" over and over.
Your mom is a debate.
OH NO YOU DEEN ENT, NO BODDY TALKS BOUT MAH MOMMAS
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 07:07 PM
I'm just using examples that are easy to relate to, and wrap your brain around. I think it's better than pulling articles from online.
Debates are fine and dandy, but they're frusturating and not fun, if you keep using the same "point" over and over.
Your mom is a debate.
I thought that was the very nature of a debate, you don't see presidential canidates saying "OH you know my opponent is correct on his views of health care, I change my mind".
Not one debate ever..
Funshine
2007-05-10, 07:08 PM
Meh, another thread bites the dust...
Shawn_E
2007-05-10, 07:09 PM
Meh, another thread bites the dust...
Thank you, thank you.
Killin threads since 2002-:hifive:
Funshine
2007-05-10, 07:11 PM
Thank you, thank you.
Killin threads since 2002-:hifive:
If you're really interested in debating and not just derailing someone else's thread, you should go here, read, and sign yourself up: http://buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88122
is brock playing around or did he really not know that was from the crazy tom cruise interview
had no clue...
Jewcus
2007-05-10, 07:26 PM
had no clue...
ya i retract my former statement. i thought he was mocking cruise. i didnt think he actually believed that crap.
someguy
2007-05-10, 07:40 PM
yea, way to take the thread from sex to chemistry guys
juicyjay
2007-05-11, 11:23 AM
I've always have a strong healthy sex appetite. (probably cause i'm younger)
but i've never had that feeling of not wanting to have sex. on the first day of my period i feel like im in extreme heat and like jill, i want to jump on anything that moves.
since i started birth control it's gone in superdrive where i want sex all the time. it's a bit annoying.
i want sex all the time
welcome to my world
Funshine
2007-05-11, 11:25 AM
since i started birth control it's gone in superdrive where i want sex all the time. it's a bit annoying.
What are you taking? I've found that Yaz and Yasmin both tend to kill my drive.
Shawn_E
2007-05-11, 11:30 AM
They just need male birth control and you women would be ok
Shawn_E
2007-05-11, 11:31 AM
Although I couldn't fanthom having the big O and not have my soldier's deploy, I think that would make me depressed or something I dunno never happened so. hmmm
method
2007-05-11, 11:31 AM
So far, I haven't been diabetic long enough to worry about any complications. My A1C is always around 6.3-6.5 (highest 6.8) so I'm not as concerned with that.
The menopausal stuff was almost 10 years ago. I'm sure that has something to do with it tho.
hey tash, do you have other symptoms as well, like inexplicable fatigue, or do you have bouts of being high-strung followed by a sudden crash? if so, you might want to get checked for thyroid disorder.
FutonBunny
2007-05-11, 11:46 AM
Then why even debate with me on this subject?
who was debating your subject? I was debating your sources.
I hold and English Degree and a minor in Philosophy. I don't care what you're debating, I care how you do it. :ANden:
BuzzCat
2007-05-11, 11:48 AM
hey tash, do you have other symptoms as well, like inexplicable fatigue, or do you have bouts of being high-strung followed by a sudden crash? if so, you might want to get checked for thyroid disorder.
Nope. I maintain a pretty good energy level unless it's for normal reasons like not enough sleep. And I've already been checked out. I am positive for Thyroid antibodies, but so far I'm still functioning at 100%. I get checked again in the fall. :) Thanks. As my doctor says I could "cook" for 10 years before seeing any problems, but when I do, it's just a pill and my body won't know the difference.
BuzzCat
2007-05-11, 11:49 AM
They just need male birth control and you women would be ok
We can't trust you guys to remember to take it anyway.
spatulagirl
2007-05-11, 10:39 PM
I get horny a few days before I am set to ovulate. Plus I am almost 31 and as I get older I get hornier.
And right now, it is about the only exercise I actually get so... I try to do a lot of it. Helps me lose weight and maybe I might get another baby out of it!
Precious12
2007-05-12, 02:42 AM
I have the libido of an 18 yr old boy.
And I love it. :yes:
Jewcus
2007-05-12, 02:49 AM
:thumbsup:
someguy
2007-05-12, 04:21 AM
I have the libido of an 18 yr old boy.
And I love it. :yes:
are you sure? this would probably involve masturbating about 3 or 4 times a day, with the goal in mind of doing it somewhere you've never got off before.
if so, then hats off to ya.
Roach
2007-05-12, 12:24 PM
I have the libido of an 18 yr old boy.
And I love it. :yes:
Seconded. :tarvis:
Precious12
2007-05-12, 02:30 PM
are you sure? this would probably involve masturbating about 3 or 4 times a day, with the goal in mind of doing it somewhere you've never got off before.
if so, then hats off to ya.
I said the libido, not the lameness. lol
I gets mine. :leghump:
EmmaK
2007-05-12, 06:46 PM
In reference to the original question (because I do not feel like reading all the pages), yes I have periods of spiking super-ultra-heat (it never really drops low, so it's either medium, high, or omghi2uletsjumpnow). It's good to have a steady partner then, because otherwise those periods can be dangerous if you're a singleton.
EmmaK
2007-05-12, 06:48 PM
And there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain.
That's a load of shit.
Jewcus
2007-05-12, 06:50 PM
It's good to have a steady partner then, because otherwise those periods can be dangerous if you're a singleton.
haha. like one of those look around, take inventory, grab someone and say "you'll do" moments
BuzzCat
2007-05-15, 10:23 AM
haha. like one of those look around, take inventory, grab someone and say "you'll do" moments
When women do it, it's more like they are lioness' hunting. Isn't that how Funshine found you? How'd those wounds heal up anyway?
Alexis
2007-05-15, 10:34 AM
Show me proof of any expert showing there's a such thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Has anyone here even studied neurology?
I think the first paragraph here pretty much sums up my point..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_imbalance_theory
did you even read past the first paragraph that you think sums up your point? Or did you just stop when you thought that your point was proven?
"Psychiatrist Mark Gold, remains a strong advocate that addiction and psychiatric disorders are rooted in complex chemical imbalances and that effective treatment is available for most correctly diagnosed psychiatric patients from various drug treatments -- an opinion that he shares with the majority of the medical community."
If you don't believe in brain imbalances I would be happy to arrange for you a visit with one of my un-medicated schizophrenic family members.
EmmaK
2007-05-15, 11:09 AM
When women do it, it's more like they are lioness' hunting.
:star:
Indeed.
Chrississippi
2007-05-15, 11:14 AM
When women do it, it's more like they are lioness' hunting.
haha, that phrasing sounds much better than "looking to be slutty".
method
2007-05-15, 11:15 AM
did you even read past the first paragraph that you think sums up your point? Or did you just stop when you thought that your point was proven?
"Psychiatrist Mark Gold, remains a strong advocate that addiction and psychiatric disorders are rooted in complex chemical imbalances and that effective treatment is available for most correctly diagnosed psychiatric patients from various drug treatments -- an opinion that he shares with the majority of the medical community."
If you don't believe in brain imbalances I would be happy to arrange for you a visit with one of my un-medicated schizophrenic family members.
it's not shawn's fault, he suffers a chemical imbalance in the brain due to lack of buttsex.
EmmaK
2007-05-15, 11:27 AM
haha, that phrasing sounds much better than "looking to be slutty".
Maybe because there's a difference between the two.
:shrug:
One is quite focused (often with a particular person in mind), while the other is a haze of hormones being thrust at whatever target crosses their path.
I guess there doesn't have to be a difference (prob. depends on the person), but I definitely see it that way.
Midnight_Junglest
2007-05-15, 04:00 PM
marriage will do that lol :hifive:
Yeah and why is that?? Its even worse when you have kids, I guess from being so damn tired at the end of the day, alls you want to do is sleep....
BuzzCat
2007-05-15, 04:20 PM
Maybe because there's a difference between the two.
:shrug:
One is quite focused (often with a particular person in mind), while the other is a haze of hormones being thrust at whatever target crosses their path.
I guess there doesn't have to be a difference (prob. depends on the person), but I definitely see it that way.
Stalking something imparticular, as opposed to just laying it out there.
http://www.sundownlionpark.com/images/imgMalau.jpg
EmmaK
2007-05-15, 06:04 PM
Stalking something imparticular, as opposed to just laying it out there.
http://www.sundownlionpark.com/images/imgMalau.jpg
heeheehee...it should be noted, that is a lion (male). but good placement :wink:
method
2007-05-15, 06:05 PM
Stalking something imparticular, as opposed to just laying it out there.
http://www.sundownlionpark.com/images/imgMalau.jpg
yeah, i'd imagine it would have to be pretty different. i've tried this technique and it never works.
BuzzCat
2007-05-15, 06:20 PM
heeheehee...it should be noted, that is a lion (male). but good placement :wink:
I know, I couldn't find a female.
We're just not as lazy. :wink:
BuzzCat
2007-05-15, 06:21 PM
yeah, i'd imagine it would have to be pretty different. i've tried this technique and it never works.
Did you get your mane did before you went out? holla.
ravetildawn
2007-05-17, 05:54 PM
i dunno if it's cause i'm pushin 30 or what, but i feel like i'm 20 all over again :leghump:
i dunno if it's cause i'm pushin 30 or what, but i feel like i'm 20 all over again :leghump:
old woman