My Second Flyer

[dj category 5]

so, c'mon, shred it..lets see what you think!!!:charly:

http://www.immanentchaos.com/images/april_copy.jpg


http://www.immanentchaos.com/images/april_back_copy2.jpg

[: ORI :]

Still too many fonts there. Makes it kinda hard to focus on a specific point.

[sxulcmnky]

i agree with her... it's a general rule of thumb when designing to use no more than 2 fonts throughout the whole thing. other than that i like the cover and the text effects you did

[Funshine]

Yeah, the some of the green font is hard to read.

[LOGO]

Hm.
I, of course, have comments and questions.

First of all, I see that "Immanent" and "Chaos" are typographically similar.
Am I to believe that "Immanent Chaos" is presenting this event, or is the event presented by two separate entities, Immanent AND Chaos?
Whatever the case may be, the fact that these two words are separated causes some confusion.
Also, because people in this country read top-to-bottom, left-to-right, this flyer reads as such:

"Immanent Invasion—the second wave—Invasion, Chaos presents: Wednesday, April19.2006."

The fact that "Chaos presents:" comes before the date causes some confusion.
Obviously, Chaos is not presenting the date, which causes people to think too hard to figure out what Chaos is presenting.

As for your concept, I think I get where you're going.
It seems like you are trying to do some sort of mirror image to reflect the idea that this is the "Second Wave."

If this was your intent, I have a suggestion.
Try doing just that—a mirror image, as shown below:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/atomicvibe/april_copy.jpg

This technique has been done ad infinitum, but it might help you convey your idea a bit more subtly.

Or perhaps you could try the word Invasion with a superscripted 2 at the end of the word, indicating that it is "Invasion squared."

The other major problem I have with the front is that your date competes WAY too much with the title of your event.
Sure, the date is important, but it certainly should not carry as much weight as your event name.

OK...now for the back.
I'm sorry to say, but this one suffers the same fate as your last flyer: too much stuff/low readability.
And I have to be quite honest, I HATE those spacey fonts.
They've been used over and over and over again on flyers since parties began.
I suppose they're OK for your headlines, but for body copy...forget about it.
They're just too hard to read.
I get that it's J Smooth, but it looks like "J Smoot" with a T that has fallen over.

Another thing that really bugs me about fledgling flyer designs is the lack of a grid, or framework on the back.
I'm a stickler for alignment.
It becomes hard on the eyes when you're forced to read or view items in a linear format, and those items don't line up.
For example, my eyes go nuts down towards the bottom because you have the word "venue" that just sort of floats there, with no real sense of alignment with anything else.
The word "Drinky's" does the same thing.
If it were up to me, I would try to get the word "venue" and all the information about Drinky's below it to align with your "no drugs/no weapons..." line.
Doing this would give you a nice pause between your DJ info and your business/other info.

Also, now that I'm thinking about it, it seems like it would make more sense to have all your info about Drinky's first, since this is the venue that is hosting your event.

Anyway, just my $.02.
Keep at it...you'll get there.
But please...don't try so hard with your flyer backs.
Remember, the back is for the retrieval of info.
Form should ALWAYS follow function on a flyer back.
It doesn't have to be boring, but it NEEDS to be readable.
Concentrate on creating your spectacular artwork for flyer fronts.

[TDB]

i agree with a lot of what LOGO said, just about covers it. I will say it's a good effort and you definitely have potential, stay with it!

how's that for a back-pat? :)

[SCHLiTZ]

keep it simple...

the thing that throws me off the most is on the back.... seems like each artist name is done slightly different... very disorienting.

[Funshine]

Also, try and use the same size font for all the affiliations....

[PimpZtress RaH]

Honestly...I like what you are going for! I like the green and the dark background.
I would have to agree on the hard to read fonts and the asemetrical names after the headliner. I would like to see them more lined up and easier to have my eye follow the line. I would also go with a general tinting or maybe even incorp. a little of the front's color pattern around the individual pictures to tie them in somehow - maybe a general wash to all the picts?


I had to go back to find where the date was...the name was well placed and bold in the middle of the black...maybe just take the date and put it in the middle -like the WEDNESDAY...just keep with that font and color and bring it across. It would be easier to find and would be bold and noticible not blurred in.
:) For your second flyer? Not bad!! :D

[dj category 5]

:bow:

now ta address some comments. Immanent and Chaos presents were frames..kinda like Star and Wars in empire Strikes Back. I horked it, ok. But i understand your points. I do aggregate the avergae IQ of people who party to above 75, so i think (hope) there will be no problems.

2. notice that this time it says Invasion, not InvasionS. i like that mirror effect...like sittin on glass..but i was going for the Plural Inasions..the word twice= type deal.

the fonts were all done separately, hence the variances in glow, texture, etc. I found the acces menues, can you tell?:) the head of my pee pee still hurts from hitting the bottom of the desk so hard when i figured that out!! haha

J/K

the Venue and Drinkys fonts are right where i wanted them..I hate having to look and see where a party is..there is No question where this party is. But again..for your point, good one.
Should font size, you think, make text stand out more?

i like being offbeat and "non -conformist"..hence chaos....:)sorry it hurts your eye/:)
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And as always, Logo, thanks for your opinion..it was the one i was goin after. To everyone else, thank you thank you thank you.

[LOGO]

n/p

And there's nothing wrong with offbeat and non-conformist, but in design, you want to make sure that any pertinent information is easily accessible.
You don't want to make people work too hard to gather the information they need, or they won't bother.

Keep at it, though—design, that is.
At least you have the right attitude towards constructive crit.

And one more piece of advice: please don't use Photoshop filters for their own sake.
Do so for a reason, not just because you can't think of anything else creative to do.
Believe me, I've been in this business for a long time, and I can spot a novice design a mile away, simply due to the wanton use of random filters.
A blur or a twirl or an emboss does not a design make.
Rely on your mind—not quick filters—for the creative concept.

[decoy]

WIND BLUR!! wind blur makes everything better.

[dj category 5]

LOL..right..good point. I'm experimenting with making my own designs..but the damn line tool wont drawl? Am i in the wrong mode or something? It'll make a line, but if i make another, BAM it disappears..FUCKIN PISSES ME OFF!

LOL.

wanted to go to school for this stuff, but you know how being broke is..plus i never put a portfolio together in the 2 art classes i had way the hell back in high school. so no one even looks at me the times i HAVE attempted school.
BAH.

[decoy]

I think that adobe illustrator is what you want if you want to draw stuff. I don't think photoshop does that well. I think illustrator might do text better too. my aunt is a graphics person for da gubbament and she's always going on about illustrator.

[dj category 5]

werd. now, Where'd i put that $799.....?

LOL

[decoy]

for real, that shit is expensive.