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T-Sizzle
2005-10-06, 04:10 AM
Man heres the deal: as far as production absolutely no one here can deny he is a PROFESSIONAL. The stuff that comes out of his computer absolutely blows my mind. And while i will agree that he is progressively getting poppier as he gets popularity & money can we blame him!!!? pop = money. Remeber when rap was about slangin dope, pimpin hoes, bein a killa, and beating haters azzes. What changed the game to center around cars, bling bling in da club, etc...? popularity and the desire to sell your records to a broader audience ie: white people ( for rap ) or non techno heads (for edm such as bt, fatboy slim, moby etc...) we know how this shit goes folks, its the nature of the music business

howyafeel? :zzz:

FACTORe
2005-10-06, 04:18 AM
good for bt - he got paid

Bioteknik
2005-10-06, 03:30 PM
don't you want to make a living, and be comfortable?

empath
2005-10-06, 03:37 PM
BT has always been pop music first and foremost.

Transmattic
2005-10-06, 03:41 PM
I saw BT open up for crystal method at the 930 club in like 97. He did a full on live show with synths, samplers and the whole deal. Seriously he ws off the hook that night, just slammin. I haven't really paid attention to him over the past couple of years, but from what I hear now, the only live show he does is on a laptop and I know he did some production for lie N'sync or some stupid shit, but I can't hate, he's making bank

T-Sizzle
2005-10-06, 04:00 PM
[QUOTE]BT has always been pop music first and foremost.

Um, you can't hear a difference betwwen fibonacci sequence and his last hit somnambullist?
WHat Im saying is hes pop(er) now

Synthetikid
2005-10-06, 04:07 PM
money corrupts.
he does it for money
it has to be more bland to have broad appeal
it has to have broad appeal to make money

he helped create trance- the way that it was, not the way that it is.
good for him that he's making money.

spiggums
2005-10-06, 04:29 PM
[QUOTE]BT has always been pop music first and foremost.

Um, you can't hear a difference betwwen fibonacci sequence and his last hit somnambullist?
WHat Im saying is hes pop(er) now

yet, there are traces of somnambulist (or the "pop" thing) in older tunes as well... I mean, fuck... Go back to his first CD... are you going to tell me that Blue Skies wasn't poppy?

But still, even the poppiest of stuff he does is fucking quality... I mean, I hated the vocals but musically could respect what he did with the N'Sync tune....

john c
2005-10-06, 04:31 PM
most of his work now is for films. he's still a synth geek. he's invented tons of contraptions to make sound during live PA. he uses all the latest VST's. H'es a synth GENIUS. I do wish however he went back to his roots and made more dance music for the people who made him famous in the first place. oh well!

ps: on a side-note, he grew up in rockville, md

suneel
2005-10-06, 04:34 PM
Remeber when rap was about slangin dope, pimpin hoes, bein a killa, and beating haters azzes. What changed the game to center around cars, bling bling in da club, etc...? :

I remember hip hop when it was tribe, de la soul, common sense, das efx, fu-schnickens, EPMD, redman, beastie boys, run dmc, eric b & rakim, and public enemy...etc, etc, etc...

That is the best era to remember...the golden age of hip hop...

The good ol' days. :-)

suneel
2005-10-06, 04:36 PM
he helped create trance- the way that it was, not the way that it is.
.

Definitely one of the main innovators of the melodic & emo trance sound.

Sunspot8785
2005-10-06, 04:41 PM
BT's older stuff is fucking amazing... like back when he experimenting with trance... I see that stuff being important in the movement of trance of that era. There wasnt much trance of that calibre coming out of the U.S. at that time.

I dont think I can hate him... even if he did produce an Nsync album.

spiggums
2005-10-06, 04:44 PM
I just realized something...

looking at Mister/Miss Sleepy Hollow's profile:

are you even old enough to "remember" this golden age you're reminiscing about?

PaulieWalnuts
2005-10-06, 05:05 PM
Hey, you guys know that BT did the soundtrack to "Driven," right? That's a shame, too, 'cuz, boy, did that movie SUCK.

Yeah, you really can't hate on BT; come on, what's wrong with going for the money?

Besides, we all love him for releasing "Smartbomb.":thatshot:

empath
2005-10-06, 05:10 PM
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:BvoB3A3k5nYJ:www.xpander.nl/xpndr/column_main2.cfm%3Fitem%3D13%26owner%3DSean%2520Cusick+Sean+Cusick+Confused +Exuberance&hl=en

Speaking of hype. Somebody has told me recently that BT is now claiming he invented trance and "stutters". Has he never heard of the KLF? They did both before him. He is without doubt the biggest and blondest dried up tit this community is forced to suffer. He is a shining example of somebody who claims to be in it 'for the music'. I question his motives and his music, but not his stuttering.

BT has invented his own mythology and very little else. Because he is repeating this completely ridiculous claim people will begin to repeat it and believe it. If nothing is done about it then it will become a commonly held belief and few will go through the trouble of defending the truth, if there actually is any left worth defending. Can you even imagine making that kind of claim with "trance" in its current state? It would be like claiming to have invented anthrax on the 6'oclock news. Gushing, blushing and bobbing as a reporter thrusts a microphone into his face. Bouncing around like a frat nerd jacked up on a spoonful of fame and geek steroids, agreeing with everything the reporter says and then saying, "Dude, I invented trance. I'm a pop tart phenomenon.' Tell everyone. I think BT and Jesse Saunders should be forced to fight to the death with pizza cutters and the winner can claim they invented skittles.

And if BT invented trance then I invented misspelling and diarrhea. I send BT an open invitation to an electronic history lesson anytime he wants. I would be happy to prove him wrong. We'll start with a record called, "What Time is Love" (Original Mix). Or maybe Force Legato, 'System' (V 1.0). He's like a kid that stays an extra hour at school to clean the chalkboard and tells the teacher he can't wait until the class has moved on to the next chapter. He's brown nosing his own fans to make them feel like they're in touch with something that matters: his ever lengthening and wooden nose. Pathetic. He didn't invent stuttering, he invented shamelessness.

Maybe BT will finally make it onto the cover of Rolling Stone magazine and the music world at large will be forced to acknowledge that dance is dead, that it fizzled out naked, gasping and gurgling. Covered in its own semen. Found in a hotel room drowned in puke like all great drum machines. BT will be fingering his butt-hole on the cover claiming that he invented masturbation.

I know I promised I would leave this issue alone but since the interview I did with xpander and the first column I did I've been getting loads of emails from people who all have their own little stories to tell about him. I have a weakness for it, I guess. I heard also that BT is slamming Paul Oakenfold now. I'm not the one who would normally run to Paul Oakenfold's defense but if I was forced to choose sides.... No, wait a minute. Stop it. I would scrape and gouge my own eyes out with a greasy chicken's ass-bone before giving a vote of confidence to either of those fuckwits.

Synthetikid
2005-10-06, 05:10 PM
I just realized something...

looking at Mister/Miss Sleepy Hollow's profile:

are you even old enough to "remember" this golden age you're reminiscing about?


hey now i was born in '82- then again i did buy IMA when i was 13. so i guess 10 would be cutting it pretty deep wouldn't it.

infectedskazi
2005-10-06, 05:14 PM
i really dont get why people take artists goin mainstream so seriously, if u make music for a living u wanna make the most u can, and bt certainly has, but he did do alot for the scene in the past so i give him props for it

uberclkgtr
2005-10-06, 05:15 PM
[QUOTE=Dj SleepyHollow]yet, there are traces of somnambulist (or the "pop" thing) in older tunes as well... I mean, fuck... Go back to his first CD... are you going to tell me that Blue Skies wasn't poppy?


:werd: his albums have always been pop-laden. tori amos sang/wrote lyrics for blue skies for instance.

his single releases (non-album) tend to be more geared to the dancefloor and less pop. he's put out lots of quality breaks tracks under various aliases.

T-Sizzle
2005-10-06, 06:42 PM
K to answer spiggum's question "Am i even old enough to remember the golden age you're refering to"? Yeah, boss: I was listening to both electronic & rap music in 1995 even if I was a teen, I have been djing since I was 13.

What I meant by this thread is "If bt could only use his skills for good, and take his production knowledge and apply it to something that isnt pop, you know: wasn't made for the sole purpose of becoming a hit or an anthem, something with an underground sound how cool would that be? Empath I agree that it is annoying that he is cocky and claims to be an innovater of already established methods of producing, but you dont have to hate SO hardcore on him. You make it sound as if he has done NOTHING worthwhile for the edm community. Yes, he gets alot of respect from people who know very little about edm for being "the father of trance" etc... because of his POP status, but he is a good musician.

spiggums
2005-10-06, 06:45 PM
Bottom line: if you look at the music he's writing now, and the music he wrote before, he doesn't seem to be sacrificing credibility, and, in fact, only seems to be honing his craft... if the music he makes now has a pop edge... does that make it any less quality? no...

seriously, people are too worried about whether or not something is "underground" or not... if it's good music it's good music...

LaZyCrZy
2005-10-06, 06:47 PM
I love IMA, ESCM, and MISL great fucking albums..

spiggums
2005-10-06, 06:47 PM
also the point with the age thing... Ima came out in about 95, if I'm not mistaken... you were 10 at the time... whether or not it was innovative you lacked the breadth of knowledge to recognize it as such and that will generally cloud your opinion on the earlier material as the newer stuff won't grab you as much since, in theory, you've been exploring more musical styles since then...

ultimately, you'll come to the realization that none of it matters as every thing you listen to is somehow derivitive of something else...

T-Sizzle
2005-10-06, 06:54 PM
When I was that old I would have said the same thing about that album as you: This shit rocks

spiggums
2005-10-06, 06:55 PM
you missed the point, but thanks for playing anyway

Cortex
2005-10-06, 07:52 PM
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:BvoB3A3k5nYJ:www.xpander.nl/xpndr/column_main2.cfm%3Fitem%3D13%26owner%3DSean%2520Cusick+Sean+Cusick+Confused +Exuberance&hl=en

Speaking of hype. Somebody has told me recently that BT is now claiming he invented trance and "stutters". Has he never heard of the KLF? They did both before him. He is without doubt the biggest and blondest dried up tit this community is forced to suffer. He is a shining example of somebody who claims to be in it 'for the music'. I question his motives and his music, but not his stuttering.



Are you kidding me?? Style-wise, I can't stand the majority of what the man produces, but he is by far one of the most talented electronic music producers of all time. Anyone who denies that is being a straight-up hater for hating's sake.

Is there an actual quote of BT saying he invented trance? He is definitely 'a' pioneer of the genre, and a pioneer of the production of EDM. He really made the rest of the industry play catch-up when he first came about.

zartan
2005-10-06, 08:06 PM
the only live show he does is on a laptop and I know he did some production for lie N'sync or some stupid shit, but I can't hate, he's making bank

both of the last two times he's been at cubik his laptop has crashed leaving the dancefloor in jarring, awkward silence. boo to that.

the sex molesters
2005-10-06, 08:12 PM
POP goes the bt....

Cortex
2005-10-06, 08:22 PM
both of the last two times he's been at cubik his laptop has crashed leaving the dancefloor in jarring, awkward silence. boo to that.

for real?? the same damn thing happened when we brought him to the Tunnel.

talk about a success rate.

Prototype2
2005-10-06, 08:24 PM
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:BvoB3A3k5nYJ:www.xpander.nl/xpndr/column_main2.cfm%3Fitem%3D13%26owner%3DSean%2520Cusick+Sean+Cusick+Confused +Exuberance&hl=en

Speaking of hype. Somebody has told me recently that BT is now claiming he invented trance and "stutters". Has he never heard of the KLF? They did both before him. He is without doubt the biggest and blondest dried up tit this community is forced to suffer. He is a shining example of somebody who claims to be in it 'for the music'. I question his motives and his music, but not his stuttering.

BT has invented his own mythology and very little else. Because he is repeating this completely ridiculous claim people will begin to repeat it and believe it. If nothing is done about it then it will become a commonly held belief and few will go through the trouble of defending the truth, if there actually is any left worth defending. Can you even imagine making that kind of claim with "trance" in its current state? It would be like claiming to have invented anthrax on the 6'oclock news. Gushing, blushing and bobbing as a reporter thrusts a microphone into his face. Bouncing around like a frat nerd jacked up on a spoonful of fame and geek steroids, agreeing with everything the reporter says and then saying, "Dude, I invented trance. I'm a pop tart phenomenon.' Tell everyone. I think BT and Jesse Saunders should be forced to fight to the death with pizza cutters and the winner can claim they invented skittles.

And if BT invented trance then I invented misspelling and diarrhea. I send BT an open invitation to an electronic history lesson anytime he wants. I would be happy to prove him wrong. We'll start with a record called, "What Time is Love" (Original Mix). Or maybe Force Legato, 'System' (V 1.0). He's like a kid that stays an extra hour at school to clean the chalkboard and tells the teacher he can't wait until the class has moved on to the next chapter. He's brown nosing his own fans to make them feel like they're in touch with something that matters: his ever lengthening and wooden nose. Pathetic. He didn't invent stuttering, he invented shamelessness.

Maybe BT will finally make it onto the cover of Rolling Stone magazine and the music world at large will be forced to acknowledge that dance is dead, that it fizzled out naked, gasping and gurgling. Covered in its own semen. Found in a hotel room drowned in puke like all great drum machines. BT will be fingering his butt-hole on the cover claiming that he invented masturbation.

I know I promised I would leave this issue alone but since the interview I did with xpander and the first column I did I've been getting loads of emails from people who all have their own little stories to tell about him. I have a weakness for it, I guess. I heard also that BT is slamming Paul Oakenfold now. I'm not the one who would normally run to Paul Oakenfold's defense but if I was forced to choose sides.... No, wait a minute. Stop it. I would scrape and gouge my own eyes out with a greasy chicken's ass-bone before giving a vote of confidence to either of those fuckwits.


Pure idiocy. This is why I wouldn't believe everything I read. I've never heard BT claim that he invented trance himself...nor any other of the ridiculous statements that this "journalist" seems to claim. He may not have invented it but he certainly did perfect the stutter edit, and alot of other of the tricks that are so commonplace these days. Not only that he TEACHES anyone who's willing to learn exactly what he's doing, he TEACHES everyone all the equipment he uses, he travels to colleges helping students use music creation software. Yeah sounds like he's just got a big head trying to get attention. RIGHT. Sounds like the person who wrote that article doesn't know the first thing about BT as a person or an artist. Sounds like someone is a little bit jealous. If you don't know the impact BT has had on the Dance community as a whole then you sir (whoever wrote that article), are a moron.

zartan
2005-10-06, 08:31 PM
actually cortex i think i'm thinking of the tunnel gig and the cubik gig that followed it. amazing that this happened twice in two successive appearances in one city. time to get a new fucking laptop.

Prototype2
2005-10-06, 09:19 PM
When I saw BT spin at the Buzzlife 10 year anniversary party (quite an honor), he tore it up so hard with his laptop symphony that when his laptop crapped out on him (this happens often with BT), nobody in the crowd cared at all...it was like a small break from the onslaught of killer music he was dropping all night. That night was one of my all time favorite sets (Live no less), and the crowd was in a complete frenzy for BT, and I can forgive his computer malfunction considering just how much that man does in a live performance. As has been said earlier BT is a professional and he doesn't even consider himself a DJ, and he himself says he sucks at it. here's a quote from the man himself about his DJ skills, in an older interview :

BT: [excitedly] Oh my gosh dude, I suck...

Lunar: [laughs] Well that's what we've always appreciated about you is that your honest about it, you know from the first Renaissance compilation you did.

BT: Well, I think everybody just takes that shit so seriously. I'm like, "You get to fly first class for playing records?" I may not play with my band anymore because that can be a pain in the ass sometimes! If I want Thai food, or I want to go to a strip club, I mean I just get on the plane with a fucking box of records and go and party. I mean I totally miss playing with my band, but we're not going to do it until the next record comes out, but [DJing's] a lot of fun man. And also I like testing out my new tracks and I like testing out my friends' new tracks and then I can get feedback on at least the stuff I do for the dancefloor.

BT is much more humble than some of these other people are claiming and he really doesn't take DJing seriously, which is why he has so few laptop symphony dates. He spends most of his time scoring movies, working on his production albums and collaborating with other (big name) artists such as Peter Gabriel, the Roots, Guru from Gangstarr, Kevin Beber, Jody from Way Out West, Jan Johnston, Kirsty Hawkshaw, Bill Hamel.

Anyway BT has never disapponted anytime i've seen him, his albums are always ahead of the game, and he does what HE wants to musically, what means something to HIM. As has been said earlier he is definitely a true pioneer of EDM and there is no arguing that. I am looking forward to all of his upcoming work. Cheers.

T-Sizzle
2005-10-06, 11:21 PM
Spiggums: No matter my age I can still compare two periods of music, how they have changed, and ESPECIALLY how an artist, such as bt, has evolved or devolved. BT may have always been pop, but what I meant by this thread is that he is now evolving into something beyond pop (ie emmotional technology) where he is trying to be a one man show (singing his pop jingles and meticulously altering them to try to make them sound kewl) But yes I think everyone here (except empath) can agree that his productions of beats and instruments combined have always been pushing the limit over the top and are also very nice.

daniella downs
2005-10-06, 11:42 PM
ROUGHING THE PALATE! ROUGHING THE PALATE!



















































ps...bt has always been pop. he's done some not so poppy stuff here and there, but for the most part...pop. get over it.

empath
2005-10-07, 12:06 AM
Are you kidding me?? Style-wise, I can't stand the majority of what the man produces, but he is by far one of the most talented electronic music producers of all time. Anyone who denies that is being a straight-up hater for hating's sake.

Is there an actual quote of BT saying he invented trance? He is definitely 'a' pioneer of the genre, and a pioneer of the production of EDM. He really made the rest of the industry play catch-up when he first came about.
I didn't write it, that was Sean Cusick...

Mitaic
2005-10-07, 12:46 AM
most of his work now is for films. he's still a synth geek. he's invented tons of contraptions to make sound during live PA. he uses all the latest VST's. H'es a synth GENIUS. I do wish however he went back to his roots and made more dance music for the people who made him famous in the first place. oh well!

ps: on a side-note, he grew up in rockville, md


i was just going to say that he does a lot of film scores and other projects that are not necessarily "pop." I still enjoy his work.

with that rockville trivia, he was telling in an interview how he used to hang out with Ali Shirazinia and Sharam Tayebi (deep dish) growing up. Coolness.

dug
2005-10-07, 08:38 AM
I remember hip hop when it was tribe, de la soul, common sense, das efx, fu-schnickens, EPMD, redman, beastie boys, run dmc, eric b & rakim, and public enemy...etc, etc, etc...

That is the best era to remember...the golden age of hip hop...

The good ol' days. :-)

sugarhill , nucleus, LL cool J (my radio) , slick rick (on the request lines) and yes run-DMC and Jam master J !

BT just need more money to die his hair and all that mousse he uses, don't take his pop seriously, he just needed more hair products... JUST KIDDING

but i do ike BT's PVD mixes/remixes but other then that alot of it is just to fluffy to listen to or go hear live.....

xgirl
2005-10-07, 05:42 PM
people who are insanely talented do not have to stay in a tiny box.

he is one of those people.

if anything, i have more respect for someone who can make a great breaks track, a great pop track, and a great house track, and put them all on one record.

i'm not closed minded enough to not enjoy it.

spiggums
2005-10-07, 05:56 PM
people who are insanely talented do not have to stay in a tiny box.

he is one of those people.

if anything, i have more respect for someone who can make a great breaks track, a great pop track, and a great house track, and put them all on one record.

i'm not closed minded enough to not enjoy it.

amen

Liftedtrance
2005-10-07, 06:05 PM
SPIGGY - just b/c the dude was young when it came out, doesnt have anything to do with anything.

maybe he just started listening to BT 2 weeks ago (not suggesting that he did), and decided he liked BT's earlier stuff rather than his newer stuff. it really doesnt matter.

Cortex
2005-10-07, 06:35 PM
I didn't write it, that was Sean Cusick...

I wasn't trying to imply that you were, my bad if I came off that way.

so... Sean Cusick the actor (or is that Cu"sack")??

or is it Sean Cusick the breaks/prog dj? Or just someone else with that familiar name?

Either way, I don't buy it. Like I said, I can't stand the majority of his music, but technically it's amazing and he definitely gets my respect.

milo
2005-10-07, 07:23 PM
with that rockville trivia, he was telling in an interview how he used to hang out with Ali Shirazinia and Sharam Tayebi (deep dish) growing up. Coolness.

he did more than that. bt and deep dish produced some of their
earliest tracks together along with john selway too. all these guys
grew up in the dc area. john selway used to work at tower records
in tysons.

check the credits on this release:

http://www.discogs.com/release/57538

milo
2005-10-07, 07:29 PM
i think bt actually did bring on some new styles within the edm community.
he and sasha seemed like a two-man army, showing everyone their sound.
back in the mid-90's it was called 'epic house' or 'epic trance'. his sound
was much different than trance sounds today. you just have to realize that
what people called 'trance' back then didn't sound like the trance of today.

as i keep saying, the sounds change, but the name remains the same.

T-Sizzle
2005-10-07, 08:43 PM
I agree with the closed minded thing.. I mean I bought emmotional technology and I liked it because it was a great mix of music styles... I think BT is an experimental cat and it shows. I can get past the moments of his stuff where its a bit poppy of corny and see his musical talent shine through.

daniella downs
2005-10-07, 09:25 PM
THE BACKSTREET BOYS ARE AWESOME!


*pop*

Synz
2005-10-07, 09:42 PM
ps: on a side-note, he grew up in rockville, md

actually, he grew up in bethesda/chevy chase... his parents actually still live there!

he recorded his first album, Ima, at Omega Recording Studios in Rockville tho :yes:

dug
2005-10-08, 01:03 AM
people who are insanely talented do not have to stay in a tiny box.

he is one of those people.

if anything, i have more respect for someone who can make a great breaks track, a great pop track, and a great house track, and put them all on one record.

i'm not closed minded enough to not enjoy it.

Closed minded meaning I have to enjoy everything someone creates ? This is what makes music so much fun, not everyone has the same taste. Now if you would say "RESPECT" I would greatly agree with you. I have great respect for BT's ventures.

Respecting artists and actually liking all the things they produce for me at least are to separate things. You may not like Stevie Wonder , but I'm sure you respect him..... also think kissing ass is lame, very rarely find respect for a group of people who sit around and kiss each others asses, it is tasteless. :bananarider:

Liftedtrance
2005-10-10, 11:22 AM
because he ate too much at the Golden Corral buffet!


thank you, thank you!


:ontome:

NeonGenesis
2005-10-10, 12:15 PM
people who are insanely talented do not have to stay in a tiny box.

he is one of those people.

if anything, i have more respect for someone who can make a great breaks track, a great pop track, and a great house track, and put them all on one record.

i'm not closed minded enough to not enjoy it.

*bow*

T-Sizzle
2005-10-11, 04:48 PM
[/QUOTE]because he ate too much at the Golden Corral buffet!

I get my hair cut at the cotton coral :zzz:

T-Sizzle
2005-10-11, 04:56 PM
You know one thing that comes to mind about bt's productions is this:

They seem less and less impressive as technology and presets/plugins/programs in general are tending to catch up with him. I mean I can do a BT quality stutter vocal edit in about 5 minutes with Ableton's Beat Repeat effect. Im listening to the doors' "break on through to the other side" bt remix and Im not extremely impressed with the reediting techniques he has utilized on it... but it is a good song

xgirl
2005-10-11, 05:06 PM
You may not like Stevie Wonder

this is the most ridiculous statement i have ever seen on the intarweb EVAR.

cleophite
2005-10-11, 05:36 PM
people who are insanely talented do not have to stay in a tiny box.

he is one of those people.

if anything, i have more respect for someone who can make a great breaks track, a great pop track, and a great house track, and put them all on one record.

i'm not closed minded enough to not enjoy it.
Amen, lady. I love, love, love BT. I am personally happy that he has found a way to make money without compromising his musical integrity.

Mainstream does not always mean sell-out suckiness. In an industry where it is really hard to make a decent living off of your work, I say good for him.

I wish he would come around again. When he played the 10th anniversary party, I danced so hard I thought I was going to pass out.

LaZyCrZy
2005-10-11, 06:04 PM
BT is really down to earth... here is his latest post/doings in Austrailia. Really emotional stuff here.

http://p199.ezboard.com/fthebtnetworkfrm18.showMessage?topicID=2587.topic

it's been far too long since I have posted something here >>

the last 3 years of my life have been insane, I have barely survived them. I hope this letter does not get too heavy, but I think it may, and whatever happens, there is still beauty and I love you guys like family

when dominique and I split up is when it all began

dominique and I spent almost 10 years of our lives together, we grew up together, we met when we were kids, and didn't know about anything, we are both from a small town in Maryland, but had dreams of (me getting my music heard) and her (acting and writing). we lived happily in maryland for many years. when I turned 21 i went to england for the first time, and met guy oldhams, a friend of my friend kurosh. I recorded tripping the light fantastic and quark there in manchester at planet 4 studios.

on my next trip, sasha flew me there and I got my record deal on that trip. many of you know about this, but none of you know the details.

this was a huge time in my life, everything I dreamed about was becoming possible, england embraced my music, that I made in my fucking bedroom in rockville maryland. It was mental, and I will never forget it.

when I got my deal with perfecto, dominique and I were able to afford to move out of our parent’s houses and I bought my first house, the blue house on the hill, where I wrote and recorded ESCM, and a good part of movement in still life. dommy supported me through this beautiful but confusing and stressful explosion of responsibilities, obligations, and a complete change of life. what she also did, is give up her creative ambitions to support me in what I love.

we had a beautiful herb garden, and night blooming jasmine, and a big day out for us was going to the national cathedral to buy herbs to plant in our garden. I cut wood (I swear), we made fires, cooked, and I wrote music. I'd leave every weekend, sometimes, I'd leave for months, to do shows, perform, interviews, etc. it sounds awesome, but I was lonely allot. I spent hundreds of nights unwrapping soap in my hotel room. all my friends liked to party and stay up for days (before and after) the gigs. not judging that at all, but it was just not me (still isn't). after my shows, I'd go back to the hotel, do some yoga, get up and go blading or for a run, and write music all day, on my big ass piece of crap 386 lunchbox. I wrote all of IMA on that computer, and I have it still. DOS baby, DOS

Anyway, after really kicking it off in england, I began to look for a way that I could spend more time at home, in the US, so I started looking for American management. I met this woman Marcy Webber that managed moby, that wanted to manage me so bad she courted me for months. Dominique and I never liked her, she was very aggressive and even before she started managing me would scream and get insane in confrontations. Not towards us mind you, not until later. at that time I began in therapy to unravel allot of the things that happened to me as a kid. I met a therapist named Karen Riibner, that helped me immensely to confront my relationship with my father. I grew up under the guise of a nice middle class suburban home, and my day to day life was so far from that as to be insane.

I've never ever talked publicly about this, although many people close to me know about it. I guess it's because my father is still alive and I have wanted to spare his feelings, I have always felt responsible for my father. I think now as an adult and especially as a father, I have such a different perspective on things and I realize that I owe it to anyone who will listen to talk about my life experience, in the hopes, that if you've been through what I've been through, you feel a little less alone. I am a survivor of years of serious physical and mental abuse at the hands of my father. I remember so many things that would honestly knock you sideways if you knew them, even some of you here that I am close too. I remember my father beating me so badly and then locking me in our basement I blacked out. when I woke up I cried and screamed and finally after about an hour, probably for fear that my mom was coming home soon, he let me out and told me to go to my room. about a half hour later, he came in my room crying and put 10 dollars on the counter and said "I've done the best I can for you kids, you people have destroyed me". This was my early life.

you wonder what dark heart dawning and solar plexus are about
you need not wonder any longer

the saddest part of it, is how it has affected me as an adult, I am terrified of letting someone really know me, and really love me

now looking down and my beautiful daughter, I realize what an extremely broken man, my father is. I could never ever ever, in my life for any reason, ever treat her with anything but love. she is precious and fragile, and at that time so was I.

As I came to terms with what had happened to me as a child and how serious it is, I became very fragmented, and even had a couple panic attacks. Remembering is the worst part. Even to this day, I get images I wish I could forget.

Still, those days were beautiful....it was quiet there in Maryland, and I was happy. We were happy. Those were wonderful days, I will tell Kaia all about it when she gets old enough

when I turned 27 or 28 I got my first film GO and soon after that, dommy and I moved to LA, I got the LA manager. things were looking infinitely possible. I am so blessed I never got mixed up in drugs because my whole life has been about segregating myself from my pain and longing. Music saved me.

but I've also used it as an excuse to not show up for the people I love. and I have paid a tremendous price for that.

when I was robbed my life completely changed. the injury in my ankle, has moved it's way through my whole body. I have been in some kind of serious physical pain since that time. the last 3 years with my arm have been unbearable at times. I saw over 50 doctors and finally got a treatment that helped. If any of you musicians have repetitive injuries, ask me about it....I know every treatment there is and there aren’t many that work.

I digress,

there's so much I want to say to you guys,
about Kaia, and tootsie, dominique, my family, Ashley

i am tired now

it's late in australia
and I am alone in my bed writing this on my laptop

its quiet here and I can think for the first time in years
I miss kaia terribly, but aside from that, it's wonderful

Depending on the reaction to this,
I may post again

I started a myspace account, I think I am going to give bloging a try
and I want to show you guys pictures.

i love you guys


Brian

xgirl
2005-10-11, 06:47 PM
wow.

cleophite
2005-10-11, 08:07 PM
:puppydog:

NeonGenesis
2005-10-11, 08:26 PM
wow.

Ditto

maynard
2005-10-11, 08:32 PM
holy crap. i have a newfound respect for the man at this point. it's not easy to come forward with something like that. you can practically feel his emotions.

wow.

T-Sizzle
2005-10-11, 09:29 PM
Damn that sheds some serious light as to what his music is all about and its really sad.

cleophite
2005-10-11, 10:54 PM
holy crap. i have a newfound respect for the man at this point. it's not easy to come forward with something like that. you can practically feel his emotions.

wow.
Someone completely and honestly spilling their guts will do that.

..

zartan
2005-10-12, 12:07 AM
whoa. dang. now i feel like scum for posting about his laptop crashing...

_Anonymous
2005-10-16, 02:50 AM
EMMOTIONAL TECHNOLOGY REMIXES

http://www.kokoki.com/audio/communicate--kokoki-remix-2005.mp3

http://www.burufunk.com/music.php

dj_rextc
2005-10-16, 11:59 AM
hasnt BT been pop like forever?

T-Sizzle
2005-10-16, 07:41 PM
Yes Bt has always been POPULAR, but here is why i think bt's newest album is ESPECIALLY commercial & pop-like (not that I didn't enjoy the album thoroughly production wise):

-It is more vocal drivin this time (every single track has vocals, complete with a chorus)

-He colaborated with a member of N'sync on "Emotional technology"

-There are tracks on this cd that I feel are especially corny compared with his previous material (circles and animals)

-Finially, in "Emmotional Technology" the slang term "Yeah" appears over one million times

(if you count the stutter edits)

T-Sizzle
2005-10-16, 07:53 PM
*EDIT*

-Im also including the phrase "haey" in the above figure (since it is "yeah" backwards)

dj_rextc
2005-10-17, 04:22 PM
Yes Bt has always been POPULAR, but here is why i think bt's newest album is ESPECIALLY commercial & pop-like (not that I didn't enjoy the album thoroughly production wise):

-It is more vocal drivin this time (every single track has vocals, complete with a chorus)

-He colaborated with a member of N'sync on "Emotional technology"

-There are tracks on this cd that I feel are especially corny compared with his previous material (circles and animals)

-Finially, in "Emmotional Technology" the slang term "Yeah" appears over one million times

(if you count the stutter edits)

sounds kinda :gheyfight: to me

_Anonymous
2005-10-18, 03:24 AM
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~tthomps6/you_r_gay.jpg

moon
2005-11-03, 05:01 AM
I like BT's production, but he did NOT invent stutter edits or trance.

Omar Santana was doing stutters galore in the 80's.

00THUG
2005-11-04, 07:03 PM
THE BACKSTREET BOYS ARE AWESOME!


*pop*


that's DIRTY





*pop*

badum dum chingggg!