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breakfiend
2005-05-30, 09:26 PM
i have a varied collection which (i hope most of you can say you have too)

why do we have these labels of style, breaks, garaege, house, trance,hard trance blah

the list is endless,
how about stores just catagorise them into, good/mediocre/poor? 4 beat or breakbeat?

i know people get really touchy about certai sounds, but i doubt every house dj has no trance, every breakbeat dj has no garage, every jungle dj has no hip hop.

i mean, c`mon without the amalgamism what are we going to get?

not enough diversity, thats for sure.

Grandbleu
2005-05-31, 04:53 AM
I think a DJ should play what they like, regardless of lables, but the lables help you explain to others what you play, so they are all c00l with me. I can dig some tracks that are not from my favorite "label", but the label helps categorize thinks in an age where there is just too much to listen to it all...

Unfeign
2005-05-31, 09:10 AM
Labels help categorize things, which is only human. Our brains need the categories to help define things for us that might be too nebulous. Stereotyping is a good example of this, neat little categories to help our brains figure things out.

Whe someone says "trance" I have a general idea of what they mean, or "house" or whatever. But then you can get more defined, like, "latin house" and then "organic latin house" and eventually "vocal organic latin house" to really sum up what the track is about. All part of convention.

Heider
2005-05-31, 10:18 AM
like Grandbleu said, labels help us describe what we play, as well as help us find what we like. i've found it easier to expand my tastes by having labels/genres. for example....if i hear some random track from dj krush, i can find that he's often categorized under trip-hop. then i can search for other artists under than genre to find similar sounds. i actually enjoy sub-genres as well (like hardstep, futurestep, neurofunk, jump-up, etc). they have helped me difine my sound as a dj.

breakfiend
2005-05-31, 11:22 AM
was a bit drunk last night,i just think instead of catagories, as some records fit with multiple catogories (audio bullys for examplesome class it as house, some class theseas breaks)

surly the best way to do it would be to give it levels for set things in the music.

ie ambience 3/5
hardness 4/5
type of beat
rigidity (whether the beats are sharp or natural) 5/5
speed 2/5
rythm/melody 4/5

where the ratings arent based on how good they are but how far they swing to each end.
it would certainly make the queues gown down a lot quicker for the testing stations.
sometimes ill go through and entire section and only buy a record so i dont leave emty handed.

robp
2005-05-31, 11:49 AM
see... http://www.dancerecords.com

they'vs got the whole classifying things down pretty good

john c
2005-05-31, 11:59 AM
breakfiend: ummm yeah cause the store will agree with everybody else universally, on how good every song is. Im also sure stores want to say their records suck ass and see how they can still sell it to you. This makes absolutely zero sense.
Labels are 100% needed.

2rip
2005-05-31, 12:48 PM
see... http://www.dancerecords.com

they'vs got the whole classifying things down pretty good

"this record is sorta cheesy and banging but also melodic and chocolatey at the same time..."

that's what i think of their descriptions. we're in the need of new genre names tho. the traditional "breaks, drum & bass, house, techno" just does not describe todays music as it once did.

well except for the drum & bass thing cuz all dnb sounds the same. :wedgie:

Heider
2005-05-31, 01:58 PM
see... http://www.dancerecords.com (http://www.dancerecords.com/)

they'vs got the whole classifying things down pretty good

www.planetxusa.com (http://www.planetxusa.com/) has a similar setup. i.e - select a main genre, and then you get a set of sub-genres to choose from.


well except for the drum & bass thing cuz all dnb sounds the same. :wedgie:

:hitwithrock:

EmmaK
2005-05-31, 03:34 PM
well except for the drum & bass thing cuz all dnb sounds the same. :wedgie:

:assslap: Hush, you...always ripping on d'n'b, blah!

robp
2005-05-31, 03:57 PM
www.planetxusa.com (http://www.planetxusa.com/) has a similar setup. i.e - select a main genre, and then you get a set of sub-genres to choose from.


not even close.

planetx will say "trance-progressive"
dancerecords will say "grooving electro tribal progressive house".

i just think they got a good grasp on the categorizing. even if you think their descriptions may sound stupid, search and find a record that you really like on DR with a weird description like that. then click on the link under the style column for that record. chances are you will like 90% of the other records that come up in the search. really helps me find new obscure stuff.

Heider
2005-05-31, 04:31 PM
not even close.

planetx will say "trance-progressive"
dancerecords will say "grooving electro tribal progressive house".

i just think they got a good grasp on the categorizing. even if you think their descriptions may sound stupid, search and find a record that you really like on DR with a weird description like that. then click on the link under the style column for that record. chances are you will like 90% of the other records that come up in the search. really helps me find new obscure stuff.

i guess i was looking more for dnb. but the sub-genres on DR seemed a bit ridiculous...."cyber", "ethereal", "peak hour", and what is the difference between "slammin" "bangin" and "driving"???

john c
2005-05-31, 04:36 PM
r u dumb? they are between "thumpin" and "groovin"

Heider
2005-05-31, 04:47 PM
r u dumb? they are between "thumpin" and "groovin"

damn, you're right. :sillyme:

john c
2005-05-31, 04:48 PM
:D