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DigDog
2005-05-13, 08:55 PM
does anyone know of a site that has pictures or something that show common garage beats? i adore that special shuffle but haven't had much luck really finding what makes it what it is. and yes, i know what google is. just wanted to ask here first in hopes there was a resident garage expert.

breakfiend
2005-05-13, 09:10 PM
why dont you u open a garage track up in an audio editor some r free to download, u ussually get a free one with a fair soundcard,

method
2005-05-13, 09:41 PM
chemical breaks overtop of a 4/4 bassdrum work pretty well...i don't do a lot of garagey stuff

you mean speedgarage or 2step or what?

mattb
2005-05-13, 10:17 PM
Offbeat hihats make that "special shuffle" you’re looking for.

The Logic Theorist
2005-05-13, 10:41 PM
It's actually none of that. There is a "Shuffle" button on the drum machine that's intended to simulate a live drummer. You have to use the shuffle to get the sound you want for a classic 2step beat. For an 8bar beat, used a dancehall beat at 130.

DigDog
2005-05-13, 11:00 PM
i was thinking primarily of armand van helden when i posted. i really like the darker stuff - alienz and the spin spin sugar remix.
i honestly don't know the difference between 2step and speed garage. guess it's off to fl studio for le experimenting

djmasamune
2005-05-13, 11:07 PM
our cover of heaven I think has a two-steppish beat to it

www.orinmusic.com then click on 'music'

method
2005-05-15, 06:14 PM
2 step has unevenly spaced bass drums and the shuffled hihats every 1/4th like in 4/4. speed garage has a bass drum every 1/4, and the high-end percussion usually has some breaks in it. both use a lot of jump-up inspired basslines.

CurtisLyle
2005-05-15, 06:44 PM
www.garageband.com

joenice
2005-05-15, 06:50 PM
tempo also plays a role in it....






BPM = 138.

PYVND
2005-05-15, 07:45 PM
This information may help you. Groove quantize is exciting, but I am not very familiar with it. Irregardless, the idea is to not have everything hitting on beat all the time. That's probably the difference between garage and some of the more more clinical styles of dance.

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i think you can group midi note quantization into three types:

simple quantization: where every note is pulled to the nearest (user specified) note division

swing/shuffle: like simple quantization but extra delays are added to notes falling in particular time regions (think UK garage for a clear example of swing quantize)

groove quantize: timing information from a template is applied to a set of midi notes (eg. you can use it to recreate the feel of a real drummers performance if you use something like recycle to extract a midi template from an audio recording of a drum break)

this page summarizes the diff quantize typs too: http://www.geocities.com/wjdegraaf_geo/mc303/functions/3.html