Sonar "Type of Dress"

[crisis]

Last Saturday I was at Sonar when "the Fuzz" when spinning. I happened to meet one of the promoters at Sonar, but didn't recognize her because she usually wears UFO's at buzz. She told me that at a promoter's meeting for Sonar, she was told that "Sonar isn't that type of club." I asked her what type of club it was? She said, "it's not supposed to be the type of club where you wear UFO's, big pants or candy." She said that she, "no longer wears UFO's to Sonar."

Just an interesting thing to hear. I didn't understand how someone who throws massives and who runs Ultraworld would expect "non-raver" clothes at his venue.

[Light Touch]

Honestly, raver dress turns off other potential clientele. I've seen it in action too many times to count.

I don't agree 100% with the idea of telling people how to dress, but I certainly can see Lonnie's point.

[ms boombatti]

i did get to chat w/ that guy Smiley who was there on Saturday night..

his take on lonnie's opinion was that too many "ravers" were on drugs.. or something to that effect.

[uberclkgtr]

I rarely see "ravers" with big pants and candy at Sonar. But there are plenty of people who attend that club that are DJs, promoters, and clubbers at other clubs in the area including Nation/Cubik.

Candy and UFOs are a phase that people grow out of. Simple as that. Sonar attracts an older crowd - always has, prolly always will.

[crisis]

Well to me big pants are not a phase. Besides what I have to wear to work, I only own big pants. As soon as I get home I change and put on big pants, my wooden beads and my hat on sideways. I always wear a white candy chain. I do agree that for a lot of people big pants and candy are a phase, but I wouldn't say that as a blanket statement.

[ms boombatti]

I rarely see "ravers" with big pants and candy at Sonar. But there are plenty of people who attend that club that are DJs, promoters, and clubbers at other clubs in the area including Nation/Cubik.

Candy and UFOs are a phase that people grow out of. Simple as that. Sonar attracts an older crowd - always has, prolly always will.

unless my husband is there.. he is a "raver", with big pants and candy.

(and 100% drug free, btw).

and i actually hate going to sonar because it attracts such an older crowd. i think dave's point was that starscape and the armory parties were so covered in candy.. and that it's interesting that lonnie's venue differs so much from that. :shrug:

[retail]

james - praise jeebus :bravo:

[uberclkgtr]

yes, starscape and the old armory parties attracted lots of candy kids and with that (though not exclusively) came lots of drug problems. sonar has always been a venue and party that has focused on the music and tried to avoid the negative aspects of the amory parties. i think they've done an excellent job in that regard.

there seems to be this perception amongst the ufo/candy crowd that they are the only ones who listen to EDM. not the case. many people listen to it, but are not involved in that subculture. there are lots of parties in baltimore and DC where "rave" music is played, but you don't see a single set of UFOs or piece of candy. and the people who attend these parties aren't less into the music, or less into the DJs or less into the club culture.

[crisis]

My only issue is that even if people are there cuz they like the music, I don't see them dancing, but I do see the candy/raver kids dancing (usually not well to be fair though). I even know people who have problems dancing in smaller/tighter pants because they don't give them enough freedom of movement. I mean it is called EDM - electonric DANCE music. The music is made to be danced to.

[uberclkgtr]

:werd:

dancing is what it's all about. go to 18th street lounge, andalu or red on a weekend, and you'll see a lot of heads getting down to music they love. i dance in jeans or dress pants all the time. i'll be doing that exact thing at hybrid@cubik this friday. =)

[maynard]

Sonar is fine the way it is. That is all.

[i licked JOEYd]

ok now I am going to deck out uber-kandie kid style and rock out at Sonar sometime.

[i licked JOEYd]

I should organize a PLUR PARTY for Baltimore all underground like I did for last year's Buzz Plur Party and get 300 plurry kids in there

:plur:

[Light Touch]

Honestly, I don't even associate what I do with the rave scene.

I went to those quasi-not-quite-rave events (Buzz back in the day, Fever, etc.) but it was about music, not about dressing up, for me. I enjoyed the vibe back then, and the concept of PLUR is in harmony with my approach to the world, but I don't really see big pants or multi-colored beads as part of that.

I always attributed the raver dress with being a social thing, and to some degree, the more drug-related aspect of the scene; my people dressed like whatever, but went to see good DJs drop big tunes. We liked to dance to music that you couldn't hear anywhere else.

I don't really know what my point is. :shrug:

[LadyJ]

Sonar doesn't have a dress code. It sounds like they're just encouraging their promoters to lose the candy and such. I can understand that. They want to put forth a certain image and the "candy raver" look does put a lot of people off.

I love Sonar and I always have a lot of fun when I go. I think that part of that is the variety of people, part of it is the fact that the crowd is a little older, and most of it is the great lineups :D

P.S. I've NEVER done the candy thing and I dance quite a bit when I go out. Then again, I'm always in the jungle room which is not where you're going to find the majority of your "candy ravers."

[The Jezereck]

Sonar doesn't have a dress code. It sounds like they're just encouraging their promoters to lose the candy and such. I can understand that. They want to put forth a certain image and the "candy raver" look does put a lot of people off.


This is exactly the point Lonnie is tryin to get across with his promoters. There is no dress code for Sonar, he just wants his promoters to look presentable, not like he's asking them to dress in their sunday bests.

[sprklqueen]

as one of the "older crowd" that frequents Sonar, who dresses AND dances in big pants, mini skirts, tight jeans, sweatpants... whatever I feel like wearing that particular night.. let me say it IS about the music... who cares what you're wearing. BUT if a particular club (and I don't just mean Sonar) prefers you not wear a certain style of clothes then duh... put on something else, go, enjoy yourself & the music. :breaksP:

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

Well to me big pants are not a phase. Besides what I have to wear to work, I only own big pants. As soon as I get home I change and put on big pants, my wooden beads and my hat on sideways. I always wear a white candy chain. I do agree that for a lot of people big pants and candy are a phase, but I wouldn't say that as a blanket statement.
Agreed 150%. I currently don't own any pants to wear to clubs unless they happen to be "phat"..... the first thing I do when I get home is put my UFOs back on :yes:

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

i'll be doing that exact thing at hybrid@cubik this friday. =)
Speaking of which, could I possibly sweet talk you into bringing a copy of "Sour Milk" with you? Someone jacked mine :crying2:

[Justin Time]

Sonar is fine the way it is. That is all.

Dan, you always know the perfect thing to say.

[uberclkgtr]

Speaking of which, could I possibly sweet talk you into bringing a copy of "Sour Milk" with you? Someone jacked mine :crying2:

:yes:

and well-said sprklqueen. :onethumb:

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

:yes:

and well-said sprklqueen. :onethumb:
Smurfin sweet. :smooch:

[PotBelly]

I never got into the candy thing, I just dressed how I usually dress every day. I don't have any problem with people expressing themselves by dressing up in wild ways.The one big negative about it is that any time there was a news special about raves, the reporters loved using shots of the candy kids with the glow sticks, pacifiers, and breath masks to make their point that these parties are all about drugs. I think it brings a lot of negative attention to the scene. Its messed up that you can't dress how you want without people assuming bad things about you, but that't the way it is and it just doesn't seem worth it when you become the poster child of the anti-edm movement just so you can wear 5000 pink and yellow bracelets.

[bkidz]

It's all about comfort. And on another note, it's my opinion that Sonar is an all encompassing club/concert venue and it's promoters are a voice for the club and Baltimore's nightlife (which isn't all EDM :shocker:) I think that in order to legitimize the overall presence of the venue, Lonnie has to appeal to wider range of people.

Just my .02

[Tyinkletoe]

Honestly, WAY WAY back in the day Lonnie did indeed wear "big" pants and "rave" affiliated attire. He even used to wear a strand of big red tacky beads around his neck just like the rest of us. Now adays the whole look is so over commercialized, the media labeled "ravers" drug addicts, and since everyone is so brainwashed by the media, we let them convince us and all of modern day society that the only thing the original look represented was indeed entirely affilated with drug use. However untrue this sterotype may be, that is just the way the cookie crumbled. You have to realize that now if you decide to look the part then some people arent going to view you in the best light, which is why its probably not openly appreciated anymore at certain venues.
I have been an avid fan of EDM since early 1993. I spent seven years imersed in the baltimore/DC "scene" at the time. I will always remember and love the uniqueness that the whole movement originally embraced. I still remember being up all night sewing my own clothes for an event. It was simply another outlet for me to be creative and express myself, not to advertise to the world my opinions about drugs. Alot of people say "rave" is dead. I agree. However, I think EDM is still very alive and kicking, I just think whatever "scene" still exists out there today ( I still love the music but no longer attend events) needs to reinvent itself and stop trying to live in the past.Hopefully whatever direction it heads in the people are smart enough to realize that A. Big Brother is ALWAYS watching B. We are ultimatly responsible for our own actions, which is what lead to alot of the negativity in the first place.

[malleus]

is it bad i dont know what ufos are?

[LuckyShamrock]

I will mos def be wearing my rave gear to Irene on March 8th

IRENE=RAVE!!!!

[CausedConfusion]

corrected

[LuckyShamrock]

Well to me big pants are not a phase.

same here

I'm almost 25 years old and I still wear ufos. Shit I wore UFO, Caffine and Kikwear before I even went to my first rave. Granted I've toned down the kandi over the years, but its still my style. I don't care what people think about my style of dress, its just me. I wore jeans to Buzz last night because I wasn't staying long and I saw one of my friends and she said "omg Jenn you look so weird in normal clothes" LOL!! Contrary to popular belief I do own "normal" clothes, but everything I buy normally has some "rave" quality to it.

[CausedConfusion]

corrected

[bkidz]

For me it's no longer about the style of gear, but the brand of gear. . . . ADIDAS for LYFE!!!!!

[bkidz]

I love the resurrection power of the buzzboard. . . . . you know this being the Lenten season and all.

[LuckyShamrock]

I love the resurrection power of the buzzboard. . . . . you know this being the Lenten season and all.

LOL!!!:corny:

my sleepy ass just noticed that

[bkidz]

God forgives you and your sleepy ass. . . . :bow:

[sprklqueen]

I love the resurrection power of the buzzboard. . . . . you know this being the Lenten season and all.

:haha: when I first read my response I was thinking damn I agree with everything I said but when the hell did I write that?


:whew: still no alzheimer's kicking in :D

[bkidz]

Really though Dave-crisis lives in NY now and doesn't post anymore . . . . .I saw the thread and was "Dave's back on the board :wtf:"

[Don Miguel Lush]

Lonnie, Ultraworld, Steez Promo, Starscape and everything else related to any of that has nothing to do with Sonar any longer.
Evan, look at the dates those posts were made.... this is a thread from 2005 that someone decided to bring back to life.
I wouldn't really worry about it.

[CausedConfusion]

Evan, look at the dates those posts were made.... this is a thread from 2005 that someone decided to bring back to life.
I wouldn't really worry about it.

Oh shit, I was liek damn is this a new thread? Hahahahahahahahah

[LuckyShamrock]

:blonde:

[CausedConfusion]

:blonde:

hahaha

[sprklqueen]

:blonde:


now those I will totally admit to having :wink:

[bkidz]

Evan is not blond :confused:

:afterbuzz:

[LuckyShamrock]

I'm not either

[sprklqueen]

but everyone's allowed to have them




and it's amazing what you can get away with using it as an excuse :wink:

[| Bass Drop |]

Oh shit, I was liek damn is this a new thread? Hahahahahahahahah


Ya might wanna remove the Sonar link in the contacts page of the Starscape site tho.

[CausedConfusion]

Ya might wanna remove the Sonar link in the contacts page of the Starscape site tho.

we're going to have the site updated for our announce date on 2/27.