Bush is getting fireworks now

[NYGblue]

Just saw them from my window... :lame:

[Shakey]

what a blow.

[BizarroCub]

Enjoy the Coronation folks.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

*sigh*

[MaryAnarchy]

what, should he get a shower of tar and feathers instead?

he's our president.

[BizarroCub]

what, should he get a shower of tar and feathers instead?

he's our president.

Yes...and while fireworks are going off, Americans are killing and dying...

The man sent us to war, we're still at war, and possibly preparing for another...it ain't exactly the time for extravagant celebration...

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

what, should he get a shower of tar and feathers instead?

he's our president.
No, not at all.

But I do not think that now, when the country is at war and our soldiers are dying, that he should be so extravigant *sp*.

And it's not like this is his first inaguration either :shrug:

[evey]

I shit you not.

Someone here got tickets to the inauguration.

In my incoming package log, in the "senders name" field, I wrote "The Antichrist's Coronation".

:D

[MaryAnarchy]

Yes...and while fireworks are going off, Americans are killing and dying...

The man sent us to war, we're still at war, and possibly preparing for another...it ain't exactly the time for extravagant celebration...


look, i wasn't trying to start a heated political argument.

i have my viewpoints, and you have yours..
i said this on another list i'm on...

whether you hate bush or not, go enjoy the fireworks. maybe even put on those cool prism glasses and ooh and ahhhh. the fireworks are there anyways...you might as well enjoy them.

our country blows ass in some aspects, but honestly...looking at other countries...i'm really content with what i have.

[BizarroCub]

whether you hate bush or not, go enjoy the fireworks. maybe even put on those cool prism glasses and ooh and ahhhh. the fireworks are there anyways...you might as well enjoy them.

Okay...that's funny...

hehhehhehheh

[MaryAnarchy]

No, not at all.

But I do not think that now, when the country is at war and our soldiers are dying, that he should be so extravigant *sp*.

And it's not like this is his first inaguration either :shrug:


i don't think HE'S the one being so extravagant. surely he didn't order all of these fireworks.

it's standard fare for inagurations.
it's not like he requested million dollar singers and free bottles of cristal for all of his supporters.

because i would have

plur.

[MaryAnarchy]

Okay...that's funny...

hehhehhehheh


:)

[zartan]

actually it is the largest / most elaborate inauguration ever. did he personally request it? i doubt it.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

i don't think HE'S the one being so extravagant. surely he didn't order all of these fireworks.

it's standard fare for inagurations.
it's not like he requested million dollar singers and free bottles of cristal for all of his supporters.

because i would have

plur.
Ooooo.... plur :smooch:

[MaryAnarchy]

actually it is the largest / most elaborate inauguration ever. did he personally request it? i doubt it.


i was unaware that it was the largest and most expensive ever.
thanks for letting me know that
:D

no, i'm not being sarcastic.

[MaryAnarchy]

Ooooo.... plur :smooch:

plur is a deadly weapon when used in debate

:smooch:

now, when are you wearing your hot marilyn monroe outfit to the rave?

[housecat]

I saw the fireworks on the way to Farragut North. I was walking and me and some random dude were like WTF?! It didn't sound like thunder? Considering the bomb scare last night I got a lil concerned then we saw fireworks and looked up at the bright prettiness.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

Come summer I will wear it out - but only if you join me in hawt hawt spandex :tarvis:

[MaryAnarchy]

I saw the fireworks on the way to Farragut North. I was walking and me and some random dude were like WTF?! It didn't sound like thunder? Considering the bomb scare last night I got a lil concerned then we saw fireworks and looked up at the bright prettiness.


did you bust into rave dance on the spot?

[housecat]

I battled the random dude.

K St. was loving it.

*bunny hop*

[MaryAnarchy]

Come summer I will wear it out - but only if you join me in hawt hawt spandex :tarvis:

i think it could be silly and fun.

i was about three steps away from wearing it into the front room on friday.

i just was sober.

glad to see you got your smiley

:funshine:

hmm
i seem to be threadjacking this thread.

[MaryAnarchy]

I battled the random dude.

K St. was loving it.

*bunny hop*


that's beautiful.

*wipes tear*

[zartan]

Here are the donors - all of them expecting, no doubt, to get a piece of the pie in the next four years. $40M direct cost plus about $20M for security, the largest ever.

ACS State & Local Solutions, Inc. Washington DC $250,000
A.G. Spanos Stockton CA $250,000
AFLAC, Incorporated Columbus GA $100,000
AFLAC, Incorporated Columbus GA $150,000
A. J. Scribante Omaha NE $100,000
Alan B. Fabian Cockeysville MD $100,000
Al Hoffman, Jr. Fort Myers FL $100,000
Alagem Capital Group, LLC Beverly Hills CA $250,000
Alexander F. Treadwell Westport NY $100,000
Altria Corporate Services, Inc. New York NY $250,000
American Bankers Association Washington DC $25,000
American Chemistry Council Arlington VA $25,000
American Financial Cincinnati OH $250,000
American Health Care Association Washington DC $50,000
Ameriquest Capital Corporation Orange CA $250,000
Amgen, Inc. Thousand Oaks CA $100,000
Andrew C. Taylor St. Louis MO $100,000
Anheuser-Busch Cos., Inc. Washington DC $100,000
Argent Mortgage Company Orange CA $250,000
AT&T Washington DC $250,000
Bank of America Corporation Charlotte NC $250,000
Barbour, Griffith & Rogers, LLC Washington DC $25,000
Bensco, Inc. Metairie LA $100,000
Benson Football Metaire LA $100,000
Benson Mineral Group, Inc. Denver CO $100,000
Beverly Enterprises, Inc. Fort Smith AR $50,000
Beverly Enterprises, Inc. Fort Smith AR $20,000
Bill G. Hartley Tyler TX $25,000
Blank Rome, LLP Philadelphia PA $200,000
BlueCross BlueShield of Florida, Inc. Jacksonville FL $100,000
Bob Tuttle Beverly Hills CA $25,000
Boone Pickens Dallas TX $250,000
Bradford M. Freeman Los Angeles CA $100,000
Bristol-Myers Squibb Washington DC $250,000
Broadcast Music, Inc. Nashville TN $25,000
Burlington Norhtern & Sanata Fe Corp. Topeka KS $250,000
Burton J. McMurtry Portola Valley CA $50,000
California Farm Bureau Federation Sacramento CA $100,000
Carl H. Lindner Cincinnati OH $250,000
C. Edward McVaney Greenwood Village CO $100,000
Century Homebuilders, LLC Miami FL $100,000
Charles E. Cobb, Jr. Coral Gables FL $25,000
Charles D. Miller Pasadena CA $100,000
Cherie and Robin Arkley Eureka CA $100,000
CheveronTexaco Concord CA $250,000
Cinergy Corporation Cincinnati OH $250,000
Cisco Systems, Inc. San Jose CA $100,000
Clearwire Corporation Kirkland WA $100,000
Computer Associates International, Inc. Islandia NY $100,000
Corporate Capital, LLC New Orleans LA $250,000
Cove Partners, LLC Santa Monica CA $100,000
Cove Partners, LLC Santa Monica CA $25,000
Credit Union National Association Madison WI $50,000
CSC Federal Sector Headquarters Falls Church VA $25,000
David Girard-diCarlo Washington DC $50,000
Direct Supply, Inc. Milwaukee WI $25,000
Donald J. Carty Dallas TX $100,000
Dr. Miriam Ochshorn Adelson Las Vegas NV $250,000
Duane Acklie Lincoln NE $100,000
Dwight C. Schar McLean VA $100,000
Edison Electric Institute Washington DC $25,000
Edison Electric Institute Washington DC $25,000
EDS Plano TX $100,000
Elliott Broidy Los Angeles CA $250,000
Entrepreneurial Capital Corporation Newport Beach CA $100,000
E-Team Communications Austin TX $50,000
Exxon Mobil Corporation Washington DC $250,000
Fairfax Reality, Inc. Salt Lake City UT $100,000
FedEx Corporation Memphis TN $250,000
First Data Corporation Greenwood Village CO $250,000
Ford Motor Company Dearborn MI $250,000
Frank Baxter Los Angeles CA $100,000
Frederick R. Meyer Dallas TX $25,000
George Richmond Earth City MO $50,000
GMAC Horsham PA $100,000
Golden Eagle Industries, Inc. Charlotte NC $250,000
H. Edward Baher Bluffton SC $250,000
Horizon Bay Management, LLC Tampa FL $25,000
Hratch Kaprielian New York NY $25,000
HSBC USA Inc. Mt. Prospect IL $25,000
Hunt Consolidated, Inc. Dallas TX $250,000
Hunter Engineering Company Bridgeton MO $100,000
Ilene L. Flaum and David M. Flaum Rochester NY $100,000
Independent Community Bankers of America Washington DC $100,000
International Paper Memphis TN $100,000
International Traders, INC Nashville NC $30,000
Intervest Construction, Inc. Daytona Beach FL $100,000
J. Ronald Terwilliger Key Largo FL $100,000
Jack Overstreet Englewood CO $100,000
James A. Haslam, II Knoxville TN $50,000
Jerome V. Ansel Boca Raton FL $100,000
JM Family Enterprises, Inc. Deerfield Beach FL $25,000
John Elliot Associates Charleston WV $30,000
John L. Kemmerer, III Morristown NJ $100,000
John W. Childs Boston MA $100,000
JPMorgan Chase Houston TX $100,000
KB Home Los Angeles CA $100,000
Kenneth J. Kies McLean VA $25,000
Kojaian Ventures, LLC Bloomfield Hill MI $250,000
Lawrence Auriana Greenwich CT $100,000
Lawrence Lacerte Dallas TX $25,000
Leach Capital, LLC San Francisco CA $100,000
Linger Longer Development Co. Greensboro GA $100,000
LMD Properties, LLC High Point NC $50,000
Lockheed Martin Corporation Arlington VA $100,000
Long Beach Acceptance Corp. Paramus NJ $250,000
Lydian Asset Management Westport CT $25,000
Marathon Oil Corporation Houston TX $25,000
Marc S. Goldman Hoboken NJ $100,000
Marc S. Goldman Hoboken NJ $150,000
Marna D. Schnabel Los Angeles CA $100,000
Marriott International, Inc. Washington DC $250,000
Marriott Vacation Club International Washington DC $250,000
Matthew R. Simmons Houston TX $100,000
Max M. Fisher Detroit MI $100,000
MCI Ashburn VA $25,000
Michael W. Murphy El Dorado AR $25,000
Microsoft Corporation Redmond WA $100,000
Morgan Stanley Jersey City NJ $100,000
Nancy and Jeffrey Marcus Dallas TX $100,000
Nancy and Rich Kinder Houston TX $250,000
National Association of Home Builders Washington DC $250,000
National Association of Realtors Chicago IL $50,000
Ned L. Siegel Boca Raton FL $100,000
Nelson Peltz New York NY $250,000
New Breed Corporate Services, Inc. Greensboro NC $25,000
New Breed Corporation Greensboro NC $25,000
New Century Mortgage Corporation Irvine CA $100,000
New Energy Corp. South Bend IN $250,000
Nicholas Taubman Roanoke VA $50,000
Northrop Grumman Los Angeles CA $100,000
Nuclear Energy Institute Washington DC $100,000
Occidental Petroleum Corporation Los Angeles CA $250,000
Office of the Commissioner of Baseball New York NY $100,000
Oracle Corporation Rocklin CA $100,000
Peabody Holding Company, Inc. St. Louis MO $100,000
Pepsi-Cola Company Purchase NY $100,000
Perennial Strategy Group, LLC Washington DC $25,000
Pfizer, Inc. New York NY $250,000
Phil Wendel Charlottesville VA $100,000
Pilot Corporation Knoxville TN $50,000
Piper Rudnick Washington DC $25,000
PricewaterhouseCoopers Tampa FL $25,000
Qualcomm Incorporated San Diego CA $100,000
Retzer Resources, Inc. Greenville MS $25,000
Richard Warren Lake Forest CA $100,000
Rick J. Caruso Los Angeles CA $100,000
Robert Day Los Angeles CA $100,000
Robert C. Rhein Interests, Inc. Cincinnati OH $100,000
Robert Frank Pence McLean VA $100,000
Robert W. Johnson, IV New York NY $100,000
Rooney Holdings, Inc. Tulsa OK $250,000
R. T. Farmer Cincinnati OH $100,000
S. Davis Phillips High Point NC $250,000
Sallie Mae, Inc. Reston VA $250,000
Sam & Marilyn Fox St. Louis MO $100,000
SBC Communications, Inc. Washington DC $100,000
ServiceMaster Memphis TN $25,000
Sheldon G. Adelson Las Vegas NV $250,000
Southern Company Atlanta GA $250,000
Stanley P. Whitcomb, Jr. Bonita Springs FL $25,000
Stephen A. Schwarzman New York NY $100,000
Stephens Group, Inc. Little Rock AR $250,000
Strongbow Technologies, Corp. Burtonsville MD $250,000
Susan and Michael Dell Austin TX $250,000
TC Management Partners IV, LLC Washington DC $100,000
Terry & Jane Semel Beverly Hills CA $125,000
The Boeing Company Arlington VA $100,000
The Coca Cola Company Washington DC $100,000
The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. New York NY $100,000
The Home Depot Washington DC $250,000
The Limited Service Corporation Columbus OH $100,000
The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company, LLC Chevy Chase MD $250,000
The Shaw Group, Inc. Baton Rouge LA $100,000
The Timken Company Canton OH $250,000
The Washington Post Washington DC $100,000
Thien H. Nguyen Redington Beach FL $100,000
Thomas F. Petway, III Jacksonville FL $100,000
Thomas F. Stephenson Atherton CA $225,000
Time Warner New York NY $250,000
Titus Electrical Contracting, Inc. Austin TX $100,000
Tom Benson Metairie LA $50,000
Town and Country Credit Irvine CA $250,000
Toyota Motor North America, Inc. New York NY $25,000
TRT Holdings Inc. Irving TX $100,000
Tyson Springdale AR $100,000
Union Pacific Corporation Washington DC $100,000
United Parcel Service Roswell GA $250,000
United Technologies Hartford CT $250,000
UST Inc. Greenwich CT $250,000
Valhi, Inc. Dallas TX $100,000
Vernon G. Buchanan Sarasota FL $100,000
Wachovia Corporation Jacksonville FL $250,000
Washington Group International Boise ID $25,000
Washington Television Center Washington DC $250,000
Waste Management Service Center Houston TX $100,000
Well Care Health Plans, Inc. Tampa FL $100,000
William Earl Riggs Pleasantton CA $100,000
William O. DeWitt, Jr. Cincinnati OH $100,000
Williams & Jensen, PC Washington DC $50,000

This is from the official inauguration web site

[Buddafly]

good fucking god.

**edit

that really pisses me off considering all that's going on with the tsunami crisis and whatnot. I wonder how much those companies have donated to that.

[zartan]

lol - MCI, formerly worldcom, could only afford to give $25,000! how nice that they could give anything after fleecing thousands of investors in one of the world's biggest accounting fraud cases! i guess they know where their bread is buttered.

[BizarroCub]

Don't forget the bill they're stiffing DC with...

[zartan]

The Washington Post Washington DC $100,000

so much for liberal media.

its amazing how corrupt this country is, right out in the open. i'm sure United Technologies, a defense contractor, is contributing that $250,000 just because they love america, right?

[MaryAnarchy]

i see.
that's an impressive list.
at least there's lots of donations.

the question is...would you be so angry about all of this hoopla and donations and wanting pieces of pies and excessive spending if it was for kerry?

[MaryAnarchy]

so much for liberal media.

its amazing how corrupt this country is, right out in the open. i'm sure United Technologies, a defense contractor, is contributing that $250,000 just because they love america, right?


i'm pretty sure the washington post would have contributed that no matter which party won.

[Buddafly]

if you're talking to me, yes... yes I would.

[zartan]

Don't forget the bill they're stiffing DC with...

no shit, i'm a dc taxpayer. great stuff. so while all these corporations line up to bribe - i mean buy their favors - i mean exercise their free speech rights - the taxpayers of a city that voted 90% for his rival suffer the traffic and pay for security.

i bet that strikes some republicans as very amusing.

[MaryAnarchy]

lol - MCI, formerly worldcom, could only afford to give $25,000! how nice that they could give anything after fleecing thousands of investors in one of the world's biggest accounting fraud cases! i guess they know where their bread is buttered.


i wave a flag with the butter side down, how about you?

/dr suess

[zartan]

i see.
that's an impressive list.
at least there's lots of donations.

the question is...would you be so angry about all of this hoopla and donations and wanting pieces of pies and excessive spending if it was for kerry?

i honestly don't know in this particular case i probably wouldn't be paying much attention. however i do think the corruption in the system is disgusting. remember, i only supported kerry as the least of two evils; my candidate was howard dean, and one of the major reasons I supported him from the start was that his support base was from many times more people with exponentially smaller donations from each of them.

and btw i'm not "so angry" just disgusted. its disgusting. many of those companies profit from the war, for example, and their executives are going to stand around smoking cigars and eating texas-themed hors'douvres and back-slapping each other about how prosperous the next four years are going to be, while something like 1,500 american kids have died fighting their war.

[MaryAnarchy]

if you're talking to me, yes... yes I would.


it was more of a general question

but thanks. it's cool to know that you'd raise a fit about inaugural spending no matter which party was doing it.. a lot of people only see faults in the party they are against.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

i see.
that's an impressive list.
at least there's lots of donations.

the question is...would you be so angry about all of this hoopla and donations and wanting pieces of pies and excessive spending if it was for kerry?
Personally, yes. I would not approve of Kerry having such an expensive inaugeration either.

There are other places that the money would be MUCH better spent :yes:

[Buddafly]

it was more of a general question

but thanks. it's cool to know that you'd raise a fit about inaugural spending no matter which party was doing it.. a lot of people only see faults in the party they are against.

:werd:

I tend to stay out of anything political. it just doesn't interest me. human suffering does though.

[MaryAnarchy]

i honestly don't know in this particular case i probably wouldn't be paying much attention. however i do think the corruption in the system is disgusting. remember, i only supported kerry as the least of two evils; my candidate was howard dean, and one of the major reasons I supported him from the start was that his support base was from many times more people with exponentially smaller donations from each of them.

and btw i'm not "so angry" just disgusted. its disgusting. many of those companies profit from the war, for example, and their executives are going to stand around smoking cigars and eating texas-themed hors'douvres and back-slapping each other about how prosperous the next four years are going to be, while something like 1,500 american kids have died fighting their war.


yeah, people only usually pitch a fit if it's someone they dont' like spending the money wastefully, not someone they like.
i think the corruption in the system is disgusting. but look at the people that vie for these positions. power hungry people seek the jobs that give them power. then they abuse it.
it's like me stealing staples and post its from work, but on a much much larger scale.

yeah, people in general disgust me. but that's the way people are. if it angered me enough, i'd attempt to move towards change.

get in the system. flush the shitty fuckers out

:)

[BizarroCub]

the question is...would you be so angry about all of this hoopla and donations and wanting pieces of pies and excessive spending if it was for kerry?

I didn't vote for Kerry...:shrug:

[MaryAnarchy]

Personally, yes. I would not approve of Kerry having such an expensive inaugeration either.

There are other places that the money would be MUCH better spent :yes:


i agree.

but...the way the system works, if it wasn't spent on this, i'm sure it would be wasted on something else shitty. like padding people's pockets. or buying a stupid luxury jet.


at least you're getting an aerial lightshow out of this :)

my dad has an awesome book of wasteful spending in the government. i forget what it's called offhand.... a-z something or another.
but it's a really good book
and i'm not even political :)

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

i agree.

but...the way the system works, if it wasn't spent on this, i'm sure it would be wasted on something else shitty. like padding people's pockets. or buying a stupid luxury jet.


at least you're getting an aerial lightshow out of this :)

my dad has an awesome book of wasteful spending in the government. i forget what it's called offhand.... a-z something or another.
but it's a really good book
and i'm not even political :)
I drank a lot of cough syrup earlier cause I am sick :hypnotized:

[MaryAnarchy]

ooh!

even better!


hehehe

anyways, i'm out. this thread made me stay here way too long..i gotta get off to target and buy some coo stuff.

i will now let all of you bitch and yell and not attempt to counter your complaints :)

[zartan]

actually mary now that I've read about how clinton handled this, i'll have to disagree. fuck bush. fuck these goddamn republican pieces of shit. fuck this corporate bullshit military complex profiting from dead iraqis and lies from the president for which no one will be held accountable. From CNN:

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Dec. 6) -- Overseas contributions to President Bill Clinton's inaugural festivities in January will be banned, all other contributions will be limited to a maximum of $100 and the names of all donors and ticket buyers will be made public, according to the event's organizers. The estimated cost for the three-day extravaganza is about $30 million.

Terence R. McAuliffe and Ann Dibble Jordan, co-chairs of the Presidential Inauguration Committee, told a news conference today that because of a $9 million surplus from Clinton's 1993 inauguration, they don't have to rely on nor will accept corporate contributions to fund the events. Costs for the celebrity-studded performance at USAir Arena, the traditional parade down Pennsylvania Avenue, 12 black-tie galas, a multi-site fireworks show and other celebrations will be raised through ticket and merchandise sales and contributions not to exceed $100.

Banning non-U.S. contributions is not required by law but appears aimed at blunting criticism stemming from the Democratic National Committee's recent fund-raising problems. Non-U.S. citizens will be allowed to buy tickets to the various events, which range in price from $10 for bleacher seats at the parade to $3,000 for the choicest seats at USAir Arena.

A list of all individuals who buy tickets or make donations will be made public by the organizing committee on March 31, 1997.

The 53rd inaugural is scheduled for Monday, Jan. 20th, and will be preceded by two days of events in Washington. The theme of the inauguration is "An American Journey, Building a Bridge to the 21st Century." On Saturday, Jan. 18, a free event on the Mall will feature music celebrating American history. Fireworks will dot the Washington skyline from several points in the city that night, and a dress rehearsal for the Jan. 19 "An American Gala" at USAir Arena will also take place. It's free to groups who arrange tickets.

Also, on Jan. 19, American "thinkers" will lead a series of seminars with question and answer periods with American citizens in tents set up on the Mall, a park that stretches from the U.S. Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial. The Mall events are free and open to the public.

The Jan. 20 swearing-in ceremony is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. followed by the parade from Capitol Hill to the White House at 2 p.m. The invitation-only, black-tie galas are that night. The Clintons and Gores will likely drop by all those parties.

[zartan]

note - largest contribution a $3000 ticket, whereas this year there are 10+ $250,000 corporate donors.

[BizarroCub]

Jesus Christ...you gotta be kidding me...I think there are fireworks going off in Baltimore too.

Either that or we're being bombarded by sea.

[Shakey]

i don't think HE'S the one being so extravagant. surely he didn't order all of these fireworks.

it's standard fare for inagurations.
it's not like he requested million dollar singers and free bottles of cristal for all of his supporters.

because i would have

plur.
If he had some cristl.......I would definitely be there......drunk as fuck. :bbjohnson:

[Bavarias_Finest]

actually it is the largest / most elaborate inauguration ever. did he personally request it? i doubt it.

its all relative ...

people get paid more nowadays, wages are higher, and inflation has to be taken into account .... its like when the adm. noted they had received the most votes ever in American history, but so had Clinton at his point in time, and so had both Gore last year, the population grows and things .... become relative ...

[Bavarias_Finest]

most of those same companies that donated to the Inauguration donate to the Democratic Party too, and if John Kerry would have one they would have been donating the same amount and maybe more in some cases and less in some companies cases .... everyone wants a voice in politics, money unfortunately is the predominant and prevalent way to do so in American politics ....

....im suprised everyone is acting so suprised, campaign contributions are prevalent to both parties, nothing news ..... McCain-Feingold did not do anything but put the money under the table ...

[Chicago]

what, should he get a shower of tar and feathers instead?

he's our president.

No he's YOUR president. I was thinking more along the lines of a lightbulb in his anus and a boot to the ass myself.

[zartan]

people get paid more nowadays, wages are higher, and inflation has to be taken into account .... its like when the adm. noted they had received the most votes ever in American history, but so had Clinton at his point in time, and so had both Gore last year, the population grows and things .... become relative ...

read the article...bush inaugural was funded by many $250,000 and $100,000 donations; the largest donation to clinton's was $3000. that's just bullshit.

[Bavarias_Finest]

but Clinton took contributions too didn't he ... the point is that all Presidents have, despite where the 0s may end and begin, its nothing new or out of the ordinary, it is simply American politics of the present ...

[BizarroCub]

but Clinton took contributions too didn't he ... the point is that all Presidents have, despite where the 0s may end and begin, its nothing new or out of the ordinary, it is simply American politics of the present ...

Oh...you can't possibly see a difference in how one was a grassroots low money opportunity for the citizens to participate in the innaguration and the other is people obviously trying to buy influence.

The zero's at the end and how it's coming most certainly DO make a difference.

Come on now.

Even for you, making these kinda excuses for him is kinda weak.

[Chicago]

Isn't it funny how fast that arguement would fade if it were your paycheck those whimsical zero's got misplaced on?

[gabriel]

clinton's 2nd inagural actualy rang in at ca. $23 mm if you read above you'll see how the donations they accepted went. also, in flation "might' count for something, but it sure doens't count for about 17 million dollars.

also ignored - the roughly 18 million DC is spending on the inaguration. usually they are reimbursed by the federal government. that has also changed. this year they were told to take it out of their homeland security emergency planning budget.

[mattb]

Are these donations for inauguration expenses going through PAC's or are these companies allowed to donate directly?

[ravermania]

Yeah, I happened to walk out of work just as the fireworks were at their peak. SInce I work like a block from the whitehouse, one of the " launch points" was right around there. I say one of the "points" as it seemed there were fireworks being launched from several different sites. Didn't realize this was the most expensive inaugaration ever - that IS a waste, and on top of that DC is asked to dip in DHS' budget to help pay this off??! WTF!

I guess I haven't seen fireworks in a while, because it sort felt like being in a war zone on a much much much smaller scale. It was really ironic really, with the sky lighting up with explosions, the light bouncing off the clouds all around me. I can only imagine what the poor folk in Iraq must have felt with the real deal.

[BizarroCub]

And while somewhat unrelated...

It kinda really makes me bitter that over 100,000 innocent people get killed in the blink of an eye, yet assholes such as these get rewarded with more power, money, and such.

Guess that's the tragedy of the human experience or something...

And while people are dying because of this guys actions and innocent children lie rotting in the streets of Iraq and, while not his fault, bodies are still being dug out in South East asia, adding to an already insane body count, these assholes are gloating and fucking celebrating. What a bunch of assholes...seriously.

[ravermania]

And while somewhat unrelated...

It kinda really makes me bitter that over 100,000 innocent people get killed in the blink of an eye, yet assholes such as these get rewarded with more power, money, and such.

Guess that's the tragedy of the human experience or something...

Last I heard the count was at over 212, 000! Words can no longer describe my feelings as the death toll rises.

[zartan]

Are these donations for inauguration expenses going through PAC's or are these companies allowed to donate directly?

direct donations

[mattb]

I'm sure they'll find it's worth every penny. :curse:

direct donations

[Bavarias_Finest]

Oh...you can't possibly see a difference in how one was a grassroots low money opportunity for the citizens to participate in the innaguration and the other is people obviously trying to buy influence.

The zero's at the end and how it's coming most certainly DO make a difference.

Come on now.

Even for you, making these kinda excuses for him is kinda weak.

....and no corporations have ever previously tried to buy political influence ....
....no other president openly took donations from corporations and lobbyists....

....it seems like George W. Bush keeps setting president after president

[Bavarias_Finest]

clinton's 2nd inagural actualy rang in at ca. $23 mm if you read above you'll see how the donations they accepted went. also, in flation "might' count for something, but it sure doens't count for about 17 million dollars.

also ignored - the roughly 18 million DC is spending on the inaguration. usually they are reimbursed by the federal government. that has also changed. this year they were told to take it out of their homeland security emergency planning budget.

not suprising .... but its ok everyone liked him and he could play the saxaphone, he was allowed and expected to throw a party ....

[Bavarias_Finest]

Isn't it funny how fast that arguement would fade if it were your paycheck those whimsical zero's got misplaced on?

$29.6 million in 1997 - Clinton's Inauguration
$40+ million in 2005 - Bush's Inauguration

Lets not take into account because of the events of 9/11/01 there needs to be added security,its a different world we live in from 1996, and the simple fact 8 years later $23 million is a whole lot closer to $40 million in 2005.

Also lets not forget when the Federal Government told D.C. to fit the bill for a large portion of the Inauguration it was from Homeland Security Grants which came from the Federal Government,which have totaled in excess of $240 million in the last three years, most of the costs being security, which the $240 million was allotted for in the first place because of D.C..'s high risk of being hit by a terrorist attack......... but I guess Inauguration Day one of the few days the entire Cabinet, the President and Vice President, and every major political player in D.C. is present within a few hundred feet of each other is a bad time to use that security money.......

but hey we will just leave all of that out .....

[BizarroCub]

....and no corporations have ever previously tried to buy political influence ....
....no other president openly took donations from corporations and lobbyists....

....it seems like George W. Bush keeps setting president after president

Yeah...other people did it so it's A-Okay! :thumbsup:

[Bavarias_Finest]

Yeah...other people did it so it's A-Okay! :thumbsup:

I never said it was ok ....

Im just tired of everyone kicking and screaming about the damn Inauguration, who cares .... in all honesty .... the Constitution provides for the celebration its not something George W. Bush contribed for his own gratification .....

If you are truly pisst off about the amount of contributions in American politics than start ranting and raving about every Congressional campaign and election, start complaining the next time a lobbyist attends a Congressmen's election fundraiser and drops 10,000 in the bucket ... start complaining that McCain-Feingold only goes far enough to circumvent direct contributions into under the table and backdoor practices ....

[BizarroCub]

If you are truly pisst off about the amount of contributions in American politics than start ranting and raving about every Congressional campaign and election, start complaining the next time a lobbyist attends a Congressmen's election fundraiser and drops 10,000 in the bucket ... start complaining that McCain-Feingold only goes far enough to circumvent direct contributions into under the table and backdoor practices ....

Hmmmmmm...I don't remember hear you bitching about any of the American's involved in the Oil-for-Food scandal.

So please don't try and preach to me about jumping on every single person, particularly when certain people are in the spotlight.

:rolleyes:

[Bavarias_Finest]

The difference is the Inauguration is a legitimate celebration, whether or not you like the guy, nothing illegal or misguided is being done ...

The problem is with the UN Food For Oil Scandal, one thing its a SCANDAL, and secondly they syphoned money from the sick and dying to fill their bank accounts.

[MaryAnarchy]

No he's YOUR president. I was thinking more along the lines of a lightbulb in his anus and a boot to the ass myself.


just mine?
not yours?

what country are you living in again?

yeah.

[BizarroCub]

The difference is the Inauguration is a legitimate celebration, whether or not you like the guy, nothing illegal or misguided is being done ...

Um...stiffing DC with a multi-million dollar bill and then telling them to take it out of their homeland security budget isn't misguided? Having the most extravagent inauguration ever during a war isn't misguided? Please...

The problem is with the UN Food For Oil Scandal, one thing its a SCANDAL, and secondly they syphoned money from the sick and dying to fill their bank accounts.

Like I said...you've repeated impuned France, Germany, and Russias involvement in it, ubt I have not heard you once bitch abut the Americans found to be invovled. That's the point.

[Alexis]

Did anyone get out for the protesting?

I was sick yesterday...still am...I wanted to go but I really didn't think it was worth pnemonia.

http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/image/6/large/messy.jpg

looks like it got a little messy...

[Bavarias_Finest]

Um...stiffing DC with a multi-million dollar bill and then telling them to take it out of their homeland security budget isn't misguided? Having the most extravagent inauguration ever during a war isn't misguided? Please...



Like I said...you've repeated impuned France, Germany, and Russias involvement in it, ubt I have not heard you once bitch abut the Americans found to be invovled. That's the point.

D.C. was allotted $240 million for security in the last 3 years, and security was the #1 cost of the Inauguration, I have stated that over and over again ....

....There is a huge difference between a scandal that takes money away from the sick and dying rather than a legitimate celebration .... if youw would like to show me actual information that says the U.S. was involved in the Oil For Food Scandal I would be more than happy to look at it, but as of now no conclusive reports have mentioned the U.S. as having a dominant or any role for that matter in the money laundering ...

Bush won the election, as hard as that is to swallow, and he is going about the traditional Inaugural celebration .... stop griping ... John Kerry would have had one too, and you probably would not have been saying anything at all, I would not have either for that matter it comes with the territory ...

[BizarroCub]

....There is a huge difference between a scandal that takes money away from the sick and dying rather than a legitimate celebration .... if youw would like to show me actual information that says the U.S. was involved in the Oil For Food Scandal I would be more than happy to look at it, but as of now no conclusive reports have mentioned the U.S. as having a dominant or any role for that matter in the money laundering ...

Actually...they have found a few folks who were involved in the money laundering...it's been posted here...guess yah "missed it"

The point was, which seems to have gone over your head is you're sitting here trying to bitch at me about not having to say about every single act of corruption around, like not doing so doesn't give me a right to have problem with some shit that's going on. Specially when you yourself don't do it...so you can stfu about that one.

Bush won the election, as hard as that is to swallow, and he is going about the traditional Inaugural celebration .... stop griping ... John Kerry would have had one too, and you probably would not have been saying anything at all, I would not have either for that matter it comes with the territory ...

Had he had the most extravagent inauguration in history, while simultaneously screwing DC otu of millions I most CERTAINLY would have had a problem...but you can continue making assumptions...thanks.

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