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empath
2005-01-13, 06:04 PM
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm

People of the world! These words come to you from those who up to the day of the invasion were struggling to survive under the sanctions imposed by the criminal regimes of the U.S. and Britain .



We are simple people who chose principles over fear.



We have suffered crimes and sanctions, which we consider the true weapons of mass destruction.



Years and years of agony and despair, while the condemned UN traded with our oil revenues in the name of world stability and peace.



Over two million innocents died waiting for a light at the end of a tunnel that only ended with the occupation of our country and the theft of our resources.



After the crimes of the administrations of the U.S and Britain in Iraq , we have chosen our future. The future of every resistance struggle ever in the history of man.



It is our duty, as well as our right, to fight back the occupying forces, which their nations will be held morally and economically responsible; for what their elected governments have destroyed and stolen from our land.



We have not crossed the oceans and seas to occupy Britain or the U.S. nor are we responsible for 9/11. These are only a few of the lies that these criminals present to cover their true plans for the control of the energy resources of the world, in face of a growing China and a strong unified Europe . It is Ironic that the Iraqi's are to bear the full face of this large and growing conflict on behalf of the rest of this sleeping world.



We thank all those, including those of Britain and the U.S. , who took to the streets in protest against this war and against Globalism. We also thank France , Germany and other states for their position, which least to say are considered wise and balanced, til now.



Today, we call on you again.



We do not require arms or fighters, for we have plenty.



We ask you to form a world wide front against war and sanctions. A front that is governed by the wise and knowing. A front that will bring reform and order. New institutions that would replace the now corrupt.



Stop using the U.S. dollar, use the Euro or a basket of currencies. Reduce or halt your consumption of British and U.S. products. Put an end to Zionism before it ends the world. Educate those in doubt of the true nature of this conflict and do not believe their media for their casualties are far higher than they admit.



We only wish we had more cameras to show the world their true defeat.



The enemy is on the run. They are in fear of a resistance movement they can not see nor predict.



We, now choose when, where, and how to strike. And as our ancestors drew the first sparks of civilization, we will redefine the word “conquest.“



Today we write a new chapter in the arts of urban warfare.



Know that by helping the Iraqi people you are helping yourselves, for tomorrow may bring the same destruction to you.



In helping the Iraqi people does not mean dealing for the Americans for a few contracts here and there. You must continue to isolate their strategy.



This conflict is no longer considered a localized war. Nor can the world remain hostage to the never-ending and regenerated fear that the American people suffer from in general.



We will pin them here in Iraq to drain their resources, manpower, and their will to fight. We will make them spend as much as they steal, if not more.



We will disrupt, then halt the flow of our stolen oil, thus, rendering their plans useless.



And the earlier a movement is born, the earlier their fall will be.



And to the American soldiers we say, you can also choose to fight tyranny with us. Lay down your weapons, and seek refuge in our mosques, churches and homes. We will protect you. And we will get you out of Iraq , as we have done with a few others before you.



Go back to your homes, families, and loved ones. This is not your war. Nor are you fighting for a true cause in Iraq .



And to George W. Bush, we say, “You have asked us to ‘Bring it on’, and so have we. Like never expected. Have you another challenge?”

spinal cracka
2005-01-14, 10:38 AM
the dumbest thing i could possibly imagine would be to "lay down your weapon" and let these people "protect" you in their "mosques and churches" so they can "get you back to your family". hahahhaah what a bunch of bs. how stupid do they think the troops are?

Cactus Jack
2005-01-14, 12:43 PM
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm

People of the world! These words come to you from those who up to the day of the invasion were struggling to survive under the sanctions imposed by the criminal regimes of the U.S. and Britain .



We are simple people who chose principles over fear.



We have suffered crimes and sanctions, which we consider the true weapons of mass destruction.



Years and years of agony and despair, while the condemned UN traded with our oil revenues in the name of world stability and peace.



Over two million innocents died waiting for a light at the end of a tunnel that only ended with the occupation of our country and the theft of our resources.



After the crimes of the administrations of the U.S and Britain in Iraq , we have chosen our future. The future of every resistance struggle ever in the history of man.



It is our duty, as well as our right, to fight back the occupying forces, which their nations will be held morally and economically responsible; for what their elected governments have destroyed and stolen from our land.



We have not crossed the oceans and seas to occupy Britain or the U.S. nor are we responsible for 9/11. These are only a few of the lies that these criminals present to cover their true plans for the control of the energy resources of the world, in face of a growing China and a strong unified Europe . It is Ironic that the Iraqi's are to bear the full face of this large and growing conflict on behalf of the rest of this sleeping world.



We thank all those, including those of Britain and the U.S. , who took to the streets in protest against this war and against Globalism. We also thank France , Germany and other states for their position, which least to say are considered wise and balanced, til now.



Today, we call on you again.



We do not require arms or fighters, for we have plenty.



We ask you to form a world wide front against war and sanctions. A front that is governed by the wise and knowing. A front that will bring reform and order. New institutions that would replace the now corrupt.



Stop using the U.S. dollar, use the Euro or a basket of currencies. Reduce or halt your consumption of British and U.S. products. Put an end to Zionism before it ends the world. Educate those in doubt of the true nature of this conflict and do not believe their media for their casualties are far higher than they admit.



We only wish we had more cameras to show the world their true defeat.



The enemy is on the run. They are in fear of a resistance movement they can not see nor predict.



We, now choose when, where, and how to strike. And as our ancestors drew the first sparks of civilization, we will redefine the word “conquest.“



Today we write a new chapter in the arts of urban warfare.



Know that by helping the Iraqi people you are helping yourselves, for tomorrow may bring the same destruction to you.



In helping the Iraqi people does not mean dealing for the Americans for a few contracts here and there. You must continue to isolate their strategy.



This conflict is no longer considered a localized war. Nor can the world remain hostage to the never-ending and regenerated fear that the American people suffer from in general.



We will pin them here in Iraq to drain their resources, manpower, and their will to fight. We will make them spend as much as they steal, if not more.



We will disrupt, then halt the flow of our stolen oil, thus, rendering their plans useless.



And the earlier a movement is born, the earlier their fall will be.



And to the American soldiers we say, you can also choose to fight tyranny with us. Lay down your weapons, and seek refuge in our mosques, churches and homes. We will protect you. And we will get you out of Iraq , as we have done with a few others before you.



Go back to your homes, families, and loved ones. This is not your war. Nor are you fighting for a true cause in Iraq .



And to George W. Bush, we say, “You have asked us to ‘Bring it on’, and so have we. Like never expected. Have you another challenge?”


Thanks for the laugh!

LordOfThePance
2005-01-14, 12:53 PM
PsyOps amuses me. :bonk:

NYGblue
2005-01-14, 01:00 PM
And to George W. Bush, we say, “You have asked us to ‘Bring it on’, and so have we. Like never expected. Have you another challenge?”

:haha:

Dubya -----> :wall:

nietzsche
2005-01-14, 04:21 PM
"We are simple people who chose principles over fear"

exactly what "principles" are those? torture? oppressive dictatorships?

NYGblue
2005-01-14, 04:29 PM
"We are simple people who chose principles over fear"

exactly what "principles" are those? torture? oppressive dictatorships?

don't waste your time analysing it... its a load of crap more meant to rally themselves than do anything.

empath
2005-01-14, 04:34 PM
"We are simple people who chose principles over fear"

exactly what "principles" are those? torture? oppressive dictatorships?
Torture might be a bad example to use.

nietzsche
2005-01-14, 04:37 PM
Torture might be a bad example to use.

why? if anything, the response of Americans to the news that it's gov was torturing detainees only shows what our principles are. we were apaulled and have demanded that it be stopped and those responsible be held accountable. comapre that to the celebration everytime a new headless body gets thrown out on to the street. that shows the character of their side vs ours.

ravermania
2005-01-14, 04:41 PM
why? if anything, the response of Americans to the news that it's gov was torturing detainees only shows what our principles are. we were apaulled and have demanded that it be stopped and those responsible be held accountable. comapre that to the celebration everytime a new headless body gets thrown out on to the street. that shows the character of their side vs ours.

Thats a bit unfair Brian. I wouldn't say that everyone's celebrating everytime a body is thrown out. Ive read numerous articles where Iraqis were horrified by the beheadings and all, saying it was a monstrous act, etc.
As I'm sure there are/were some people over here that feel that torture is justified (hell I've seen it on messageboards).

Another fact that makes it difficult to compare is that they are under occupation, enduring all the shit that goes along with it, while we are not.

LizE
2005-01-14, 04:43 PM
Lay down our weapons? Seek refuge in your mosques, churches, and homes? You will protect us? You will get us out of Iraq? As you've done with a few others before us?

:majorBS:

Honestly, how dumb do they think we are???

empath
2005-01-14, 04:49 PM
You're absolutely dead wrong about that.

We just appointed the man responsible to be Attorney General.

more on torture:

http://balkin.blogspot.com/2005/01/administration-confirms-its-view-that.html
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2005/01/white-house-dissembles-on-torture-and.html

nietzsche
2005-01-14, 04:52 PM
Thats a bit unfair Brian. I wouldn't say that everyone's celebrating everytime a body is thrown out. Ive read numerous articles where Iraqis were horrified by the beheadings and all, saying it was a monstrous act, etc.
As I'm sure there are/were some people over here that feel that torture is justified (hell I've seen it on messageboards).

Another fact that makes it difficult to compare is that they are under occupation, enduring all the shit that goes along with it, while we are not.

wasn;t talking about all Iraqis. talking about the insurgents.

nietzsche
2005-01-14, 04:53 PM
bad characterization to say that Gonzalez was responsible.

What I am talkiing about are Americans vs them. George Bush does not represent all Americans.

Sheisty McFuckerton
2005-01-14, 05:01 PM
bad characterization to say that Gonzalez was responsible.

What I am talkiing about are Americans vs them. George Bush does not represent all Americans.
As far as the world is concerned, yes, he does.

empath
2005-01-14, 05:07 PM
Read Sullivan's times article. I started another thread about it.

I'd say Gonzalez and Rumsfeld split responsibility about 50/50 and they're both staying around for another term.

It's kind of a moot point now, though, because we've already lost Iraq and we'll be out of there by summer time.

NYGblue
2005-01-14, 05:12 PM
It's kind of a moot point now, though, because we've already lost Iraq and we'll be out of there by summer time.

doubtfully... unless the domestic political climate really turns we will be there for a few more years.

Foundation
2005-01-17, 01:16 AM
is this written statement real? it is a great synopsis of a very real point of view in worldwide sociopolitics. it is so very american to look at this and laugh and to say that it is stupid to lay down your arms and enter a mosque. It seems that whether real or not, this point of view is extremely valid. and one of the main reasons that people can't seem to understand that is because of the brainwashing that the american media has put our society through. It has been exemplified time and time again, through research, and evidence that the bush administration lied to the world about its reasons for invading iraq. It is only hopeful that someone will find a way to peacefully rise up and remove our nation of the blight which is the neo-zionistic conservative ruling class that corrupts our country. This statement provides a call for that resistence. they will die and kill for their resistence. how will we resist the overtaking of all governmental power by deathmongers who committ genocide in the interest of personal enrichment. we are not in Iraq to stop terrorism. If they wanted to stop terrorism, wouldn't they want to catch binladen? Bush has said specifically that he is not interested in catching Bin laden, yet bin laden has publically told the world that he was responsible for the attack against america.

you know why bush doesn't want to catch bin laden? cause when gonzalez and rumsfield torture him for information, he will reveal that George Bush paid him to orchestrate 911, and that George Bush looked the other way, while he was in Florida , not at his home ( a number 1 target), and that their families organized the whole thing, merely for the sake of stealing oil and occupying the third richest oil nation in the world.

it can't last. i say resist the lies. reveal the truth, and terrorism will no longer be necessary.