View Full Version : Get your buzzlife membership card!
Cutter
2004-09-05, 10:46 PM
So I walk up to the ticket counter and hand over my ID and my Buzz card. You make sure my ID matches the buzzcard and then scan my buzzcard through. I get my membership discount. You could even put my Buzz handle on the card! It would be like a social ID too...
The Redskins are doing it with their "forward pass" card. They let me earn points toward cool stuff and to earn discounts on tickets and such. They get to track everything I buy. They do even better because it's linked to my credit card. Further, this gives you a way to hold return customers. We're getting a deal to come back so we're motivated to come back. Plus it makes us feel like part of a club - give us priorty ticket sales and a special line :-) We all know it's cheaper to keep a customer than get one!
There are tons of things you can do with this. You need to give us a real card!
SCHLiTZ
2004-09-06, 12:12 AM
too much effort for a party that is thrown in a club they don't own...
just be happy there is a discount at all.
binger
2004-09-06, 12:13 AM
mmmmmmmmmmm not sure what to think
Cutter
2004-09-06, 12:35 AM
too much effort for a party that is thrown in a club they don't own...
just be happy there is a discount at all.
I get out a lot. They hook me with free passes all over town. Yes, free. Nation is not the only club in town. I happen to like it though. What's wrong wtih wanting real membership? Shoot, it's just reduced admission for regulars. Everyone does it.
SCHLiTZ
2004-09-06, 12:45 AM
my comments were in reference to having a swip-card, database oriented system. what is so wrong with how the discount works now?
Lynchx
2004-09-06, 01:21 AM
a swip card @ nation? , "EL o EL"
Cutter
2004-09-06, 01:52 AM
It's a pain.
Bedrock Science
2004-09-06, 12:11 PM
It's a pain.
10 decent posts.
Recieve and print email.
Bring it to the club.
Is using a remote control for the tv too much work for you as well????
the sex molesters
2004-09-06, 12:15 PM
hell, it's more like
10 decent posts
go to club
present ID.
i haven't printed the email in quite a while.
i think the problem with this card idea isn't so much the idea itself, rather the prohibitive cost of enacting a system that would function as well as our current system.
madeofwires
2004-09-06, 12:38 PM
how would the swipe card keep track of how many posts you made ina week...
dj bruxist
2004-09-06, 01:15 PM
Cute idea.....would we be able to use it at other buzz events?I guess in fantasy land it would keep track of your posts like a credit card knows your balance!!!
Imagine your looking cool infront of your friends....and the person who swipes your card is like ....
sorry but you have been declined....not enough posts this week....and of course that person would react like a total asshat and use the legendary line....yo, you dont know who i am...ill tell everyone to boycott...blah blah blah....sounds cool....but the the way they work it now is good enuff!
Cutter
2004-09-06, 05:05 PM
We could do away with the required 10 posts. If you have the card you're part of the club. Say we can only get it after we go three times or something. Heck, make me pay $20 for the card. You can use it to track when I'm there hence allowing you to market to me. Like if I'm always there on Thursday you could send me ads for black clothes, Cubic people could be sold glow sticks, Saturday night dancers could get spandex ads etc etc.
lupitanahsee
2004-09-06, 05:37 PM
We could do away with the required 10 posts. If you have the card you're part of the club. Say we can only get it after we go three times or something. Heck, make me pay $20 for the card. You can use it to track when I'm there hence allowing you to market to me. Like if I'm always there on Thursday you could send me ads for black clothes, Cubic people could be sold glow sticks, Saturday night dancers could get spandex ads etc etc.
the whole discount idea stems from participation on the board. doing away with that defeats the purpose.
i also think people would be pissed off with recieving spam...not to mention having to fork out the money and actually devise an easy way to keep track of it all.
good idea in theory, but sounds to be too much of a pain in the ass for those that already work their asses off to bring you a kickin' party every week.
Cutter
2004-09-06, 05:52 PM
the whole discount idea stems from participation on the board. doing away with that defeats the purpose.
i also think people would be pissed off with recieving spam...not to mention having to fork out the money and actually devise an easy way to keep track of it all.
good idea in theory, but sounds to be too much of a pain in the ass for those that already work their asses off to bring you a kickin' party every week.
It can't be too much work. Walmart, Giant, Safeway, Target, Sears, food lion, The Redskins etc etc all handle this little task. It's not that complicated by today's standards. It's a proven earner. I even worked for a little Game story that had 7 employees (three were family members/part owners) and they had membership cards. A little pays off.
The other clubs let me go for free. This would help Nation compete. I know lots of people that go to other clubs and spend literrally $8 per drink because they've got $5 off admission or they got in free. Some of my friends won't hit Nation because think it's too expensive or feel they can get a better deal elsewhere. And they don't have to post to any board to get that discount - they just show up this week and next week they're hooked up.
I'm not saying they have to stop the week to week membership the board buys you. I'm just asking for a little something more. You boys who like posting/printing etc etc are welcome to continue. It's a very nice idea that promotes a kind of community.
Electric Head
2004-09-06, 06:03 PM
<------ Not cool enough for a buzzcard
Synthetikid
2004-09-06, 07:11 PM
they used to do that for the promoters but they wont even do that any more.
maynard
2004-09-06, 07:16 PM
It can't be too much work. Walmart, Giant, Safeway, Target, Sears, food lion, The Redskins etc etc all handle this little task..
And those are all muli-billion dollar corporations who can afford to blow money on anything and everything.
Nation is a nightclub that hosts primarily counterculture events. As such, they aren't exactly rolling in dough. If it ever gets to a point where Nation NEEDS a card-based system, so be it, but honestly there just isn't a great big need for it. They're only going to spend :loot: on things essential to the club's operation.
I haven't printed out a member e-mail since January '03, and I've never ever had a problem... seriously, what exactly is the issue here?
Synthetikid
2004-09-06, 07:19 PM
people feel cool with ID cards- it's a fact.
Shinin*Sta
2004-09-06, 07:21 PM
And those are all muli-billion dollar corporations who can afford to blow money on anything and everything.
Nation is a nightclub that hosts primarily counterculture events. As such, they aren't exactly rolling in dough. If it ever gets to a point where Nation NEEDS a card-based system, so be it, but honestly there just isn't a great big need for it. They're only going to spend :loot: on things essential to the club's operation.
I haven't printed out a member e-mail since January '03, and I've never ever had a problem... seriously, what exactly is the issue here?
That's exactly my thoughts.
The redskins are making millions every game and the rest are all chain stores. Plus, those stores can mark up their prices penny by penny and then say "these are your savings with your card" when it's really just original price. Plus, you have access to three different areas and music types every night. Quit complaining.
maynard
2004-09-06, 07:21 PM
The other clubs let me go for free.
Aww, do you want a cookie?
I know lots of people that go to other clubs and spend literrally $8 per drink because they've got $5 off admission or they got in free.
RBVs are $10. Lots of people that frequent Nation drink them.\
Some of my friends won't hit Nation because think it's too expensive or feel they can get a better deal elsewhere.
I fail to see where this is anyone's problem but theirs. Boo fucking hoo, if they don't want to go for whatever reason, that's on them. You can't expect Buzzlife or Nation to go that extra step for people who aren't even remotely loyal patrons.
I'm not saying they have to stop the week to week membership the board buys you. I'm just asking for a little something more.
You get discount admission for posting on a stupid message board. What do you want, steak and a blowjob?
i licked JOEYd
2004-09-06, 07:23 PM
I dunno, I really like this idea s lot.
I don't think you have to discontinue the buzzboard posting membership part or even have to incorporate a discount at all to the "buzz card" but instead you can get points for every night you come and spend money at the door and then use the points for clothes, discounts or free admission etc.
I think this might actually work really well.
lupitanahsee
2004-09-06, 07:28 PM
...and its not NATION handing out the discount....its buzzlife....and they only get a portion of the money spent at the club in a night.
i licked JOEYd
2004-09-06, 07:37 PM
STOP HATING ON THIS GUY
this idea can be REALLY cool with or without the discount part of it.
There can be NUMEROUS incentives to partiers to use the "buzz card" beyond a discount every week, and the positive size of this to buzzlife is huge as well.
Imagine if we all racked up points every time we went (maybe 20 points for paying full price and 15 for the reduced price) then you can redeem 200 points for full admission, 300 for a Buzzlife t-shirt, etc.
It's just one more incentive to go each week etc.
I think the feasibility of it needs to be looked at big time tho. I don't know what it would take to credit everyone etc, but there has to be a low-tech way of doing it aside from buying an entire seperate card-swipe system that ties to a database etc.
Think positive people and stop trying to figure out how the idea is bad. Think about how you can Mold the idea to be actually constructive and positive!
:plur:
maynard
2004-09-06, 07:40 PM
STOP HATING ON THIS GUY
this idea can be REALLY cool with or without the discount part of it.
There can be NUMEROUS incentives to partiers to use the "buzz card" beyond a discount every week, and the positive size of this to buzzlife is huge as well.
Imagine if we all racked up points every time we went (maybe 20 points for paying full price and 15 for the reduced price) then you can redeem 200 points for full admission, 300 for a Buzzlife t-shirt, etc.
It's just one more incentive to go each week etc.
I think the feasibility of it needs to be looked at big time tho. I don't know what it would take to credit everyone etc, but there has to be a low-tech way of doing it aside from buying an entire seperate card-swipe system that ties to a database etc.
Think positive people and stop trying to figure out how the idea is bad. Think about how you can Mold the idea to be actually constructive and positive!
:plur:
I'm not hating on him simply b/c of his idea. I'm hating because some of the things he said were just plain stupid.
lupitanahsee
2004-09-06, 09:24 PM
STOP HATING ON THIS GUY
this idea can be REALLY cool with or without the discount part of it.
There can be NUMEROUS incentives to partiers to use the "buzz card" beyond a discount every week, and the positive size of this to buzzlife is huge as well.
Imagine if we all racked up points every time we went (maybe 20 points for paying full price and 15 for the reduced price) then you can redeem 200 points for full admission, 300 for a Buzzlife t-shirt, etc.
It's just one more incentive to go each week etc.
I think the feasibility of it needs to be looked at big time tho. I don't know what it would take to credit everyone etc, but there has to be a low-tech way of doing it aside from buying an entire seperate card-swipe system that ties to a database etc.
Think positive people and stop trying to figure out how the idea is bad. Think about how you can Mold the idea to be actually constructive and positive!
:plur:
yeah i wasnt trying to hate, but what you are suggesting, joey, and what he was are 2 entirely different things. with what you are saying, you can just print up a buzzlife card and have it stamped every time you pay to get in then get a free admission ticket when you get so many. what he was suggesting would involve hiring a marketing/research team.
Cutter
2004-09-06, 09:55 PM
Fellas!
It's not rocket science. If we're not hating on the idea but the manifestation we can change! Membership cards are cool. (TYVM Synthetikid!) I worked in a really small store that did this. I kid you not when I tell you I ran this store when the primary owner was away on vacation. Yes, a one man operation. The card had no magnetic strip but it did have a number on it. I Should get card #1 btw - it's my freaking idea! I suggest at least a bar code to make tracking my points (just like the Redskins!) easier at the ticket counter/bar. Whenever someone spent $100 they got a $5 gift certificate. All this was done fairly automatically with use of a 486. I'm sure one of the people that work there or someone they know has a computer that could handle it. This idea or some form of this idea is completely feasible.
It rewards loyalty, it holds the audience captive - like give us first shot at ticket sales when Tiesto comes to town! Or let us have a free upgrade to VIP for accumlating 1000 points. Yes, I want one more reason to buy girls drinks!
BizarroCub
2004-09-06, 10:11 PM
*shrugs* I thought it was a good idea.
Anybody ever get one of those Entertainment Book/Cards? That shit's awesome. I rock that thing constantly.
Chicago
2004-09-06, 10:44 PM
I don't know about the marketting bit but I think having a vip membership card is a great idea, you can still match the card against the list to make sure they are doing their posts. VIP cards just give people warm fuzzies cuz it looks good in their wallet. Nearly every club I've been to does it.
Chicago
2004-09-06, 10:45 PM
You can use the card for VIP room admittance too.
Chicago
2004-09-06, 10:49 PM
I still have vip cards for most of the clubs I frequented in Chicago, they're just cool to have.
Cutter
2004-09-06, 11:03 PM
I still have vip cards for most of the clubs I frequented in Chicago, they're just cool to have.
See?! tyvm Pixel Freak. YOu all need to listen to the nice mod!
maynard
2004-09-07, 01:14 AM
Yes, I want one more reason to buy girls drinks!
More money to blow on someone who won't go home with you?
Ok, now I'm just being a total dickhead. Anyways... there are some instances in which this could be a good idea... but even if we take Joey's idea, that system is STILL going to cost money, and not cheap at that. I'm just not sure how it would work from a financial standpoint.
Cutter
2004-09-07, 01:33 AM
More money to blow on someone who won't go home with you?
Ok, now I'm just being a total dickhead. Anyways... there are some instances in which this could be a good idea... but even if we take Joey's idea, that system is STILL going to cost money, and not cheap at that. I'm just not sure how it would work from a financial standpoint.
it works. Accrual thinking looks at it as a money maker and not a money drain. The investment will make money. And it's my idea - stop trying to get my #1 member card given to someone else!
cleophite
2004-09-07, 01:35 AM
if it ain't broke, don't fix it. nothing is perfect, but i don't think the current system is probelmatic enough that it warrants fixing. if you have to print out the email every week, email jessie or buster or amanda and they might be able to look into it. honestly, its a cool idea, but i think there are other places where the money could be more effectively used.
maynard
2004-09-07, 01:38 AM
if it ain't broke, don't fix it. nothing is perfect, but i don't think the current system is probelmatic enough that it warrants fixing. if you have to print out the email every week, email jessie or buster or amanda and they might be able to look into it. honestly, its a cool idea, but i think there are other places where the money could be more effectively used.
two words: moon bounce
cleophite
2004-09-07, 01:39 AM
moon bounce: so awesome, it'll make you suck a dick.
maynard
2004-09-07, 01:44 AM
so GOOD :wink:
Cutter
2004-09-07, 01:52 AM
a moon bouce would cost more. But if it has this effect on young girls I'd have a hard time fighting for a membership card instead. Can we get both?
iminxtc
2004-09-07, 01:53 AM
moon bounce: so awesome, it'll make you suck a dick.
i would so love to rent a moon bouce for my birthday. :yes:
Cutter
2004-09-07, 11:49 PM
do it!
Cutter
2004-09-07, 11:50 PM
But after you do it, give me a membership card so I don't have to wait in line...
cleophite
2004-09-08, 01:25 AM
so GOOD :wink:creative liberty :patricia:
But after you do it, give me a membership card so I don't have to wait in line...
you got your discount already.
quit yer bitchin.
maynard
2004-09-08, 01:54 AM
creative liberty :patricia:
it's not creative if you're stealing it from chris rock. :shady:
cleophite
2004-09-08, 02:02 AM
steal is such a nasty word. i prefer borrow, with a twist!
you'll want to note the "!" on the end there.
Cutter
2004-09-08, 02:15 AM
you got your discount already.
quit yer bitchin.
only if i keep posting and I still have to wait in line. It's win win situation. don't be so negative!
i'm a negative nancy
maybe you didnt get the memo
and i'm pissed the new kids on the block didnt reunite
lupitanahsee
2004-09-09, 04:02 AM
moon bounce: so awesome, it'll make you suck a dick.
:afterbuzz:
lupitanahsee
2004-09-09, 04:06 AM
only if i keep posting and I still have to wait in line. It's win win situation. don't be so negative!
here's a thought....take a peek at the user list for this board...now think of the line you'll have to wait in just for the reduced card holer list. the reduced list line is usually pretty long at the prime arrival time (11-12) anyway. shit happens and you have to wait in lines...thats just the way it goes.
im not trying to be a bitch...just looking at the practial reality of things.
Mandaba
2004-09-09, 04:40 AM
if it's not broken, why fix it?
plain and simple.
Mandaba
2004-09-09, 04:40 AM
hrm laurenita beat me to it. damn her.
Chef Roy R Dee
2004-09-09, 04:49 AM
STOP HATING ON THIS GUY
this idea can be REALLY cool with or without the discount part of it.
There can be NUMEROUS incentives to partiers to use the "buzz card" beyond a discount every week, and the positive size of this to buzzlife is huge as well.
Imagine if we all racked up points every time we went (maybe 20 points for paying full price and 15 for the reduced price) then you can redeem 200 points for full admission, 300 for a Buzzlife t-shirt, etc.
It's just one more incentive to go each week etc.
I think the feasibility of it needs to be looked at big time tho. I don't know what it would take to credit everyone etc, but there has to be a low-tech way of doing it aside from buying an entire seperate card-swipe system that ties to a database etc.
Think positive people and stop trying to figure out how the idea is bad. Think about how you can Mold the idea to be actually constructive and positive!
:plur:
:respekt:
n-root
2004-09-09, 05:20 AM
I think it's a great idea!!! IF you take all the admission for the year (FULL PRICE OF COURSE!) and then give a 25% discount. And you'll get to go anytime within that year. So lets see.... 52 weeks / year x $18 (well say thats the avg.) = $936
25% off = $752 / year AND you are saving a TON! Let's do it!
blazinkikgurl
2004-09-09, 09:09 AM
would make r lives easier but buzzlife's more difficult huh?
Chicago
2004-09-09, 09:23 AM
here's a thought....take a peek at the user list for this board...now think of the line you'll have to wait in just for the reduced card holer list. the reduced list line is usually pretty long at the prime arrival time (11-12) anyway. shit happens and you have to wait in lines...thats just the way it goes.
im not trying to be a bitch...just looking at the practial reality of things.
This is exactly why a speedier process is in order. I rarely even use my discount because of the line. Whats the point if there is no line for non-discount admission?
n-root
2004-09-09, 09:44 AM
This is exactly why a speedier process is in order. I rarely even use my discount because of the line. Whats the point if there is no line for non-discount admission?
Nothing is free. If you thought the price for the discount was broadcasting your opinion to alot of your friends at once, then you're mistaken. Life never works like that, unfortunately :sadblue: I believe the main hold-up is that Nation employees run the booth and aparently they cant be bothered with such things as 'lists'. That is super BS on their part if you ask me. What can you do? :shrug: I have seen Jess run that one window with the list tons of times. She could certainly be doing other things with her time.
Chicago
2004-09-09, 10:03 AM
I'm not dissin anyone I'm just sayin that by the time I've waited in line to get in the door, then waited in another line to be cavity searched, then see a line back to the main doors for a discount and no line for full admission.... fuck the discount.
cleophite
2004-09-09, 10:07 AM
honestly, i've never found the lines to be that horrible. if its a big night, i expect that's how its going to be. its the same at every party you go to. dunno, this might still be some sort of feasible idea, but i really don't think the wait is this aggravating :shrug:
but maybe that's just me.
n-root
2004-09-09, 10:18 AM
I'm with ya Lauren and I have paid full price to avoid really long lines before as well. I'm suprised that a person that would be willing to just pay the extra bit of money would care enough to even think about it twice :shrug:
Chicago
2004-09-09, 10:21 AM
I don't care, I was just agreeing with someone that sometimes the line is pain in the ass. And people jumped on it.
blewmymindblank
2004-09-09, 10:28 AM
I think buzzlife should implant microchips under every patrons skin. They would have GPS capabilities and microphones and lazers and self-destruct functions. This way buzzlife can keep track of everyone that has ever entered their parties, follow them where they go, and market to each individuals needs/wants. The lazers and self-destruct would be for those unfortunate souls that decide to attend other parties on friday nights. Buzzlife would be able to kill the other people there with the lazers, and then blow up the evidence.
trancent
2004-09-09, 11:32 AM
isnt it easier and cheaper for buz just to have members come in with a printed off email?
overjupiter
2004-09-09, 07:52 PM
it's simple enough to print off the email.. and plus... I don't need another card in my wallet.
L00p33
2004-09-09, 07:55 PM
mmmmmmmmmmm not sure what to think
Im like you...only different.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm not sure when to think :yes:
(heh)
Cutter
2004-09-10, 01:23 AM
This has so many possibilities. They can't afford NOT to do this. When they start offering them, all you haters can keep on printing out the e-mail and waiting in the "acceptably" long line. I won't have to post because like good businessmen they'll be rewarding me for showing up with my cash instead of ranting on a BBS. This is just the beginning.
Side note - lines could be reduced if they'd pre-sell me tickets (will call so I don't forget them) or let me buy entrances in bulk. I give them $100 and they let me in ten times - punching out holes with a holepunch or the like. 1)They get my money upfront. 2)they know I'm going at least ten times [read drink sales] 3)I get a discount/don't have to wait in silly ticket line. I know... I know, "It's too expensive to sell paper cards and equip the ticket taker with a hole punch. Print out the e-mail..."
plur2all
2004-09-10, 04:25 AM
This has so many possibilities. They can't afford NOT to do this. When they start offering them, all you haters can keep on printing out the e-mail and waiting in the "acceptably" long line. I won't have to post because like good businessmen they'll be rewarding me for showing up with my cash instead of ranting on a BBS. This is just the beginning.
Side note - lines could be reduced if they'd pre-sell me tickets (will call so I don't forget them) or let me buy entrances in bulk. I give them $100 and they let me in ten times - punching out holes with a holepunch or the like. 1)They get my money upfront. 2)they know I'm going at least ten times [read drink sales] 3)I get a discount/don't have to wait in silly ticket line. I know... I know, "It's too expensive to sell paper cards and equip the ticket taker with a hole punch. Print out the e-mail..."
Do you know what buzzlife does already? No offense but this is all a nice facade but in reality buzzlife productions has enough shit to handle. Oh my gosh, you have to wait an extra few minutes in line. That should be expected for only the best party on Friday's. Like I said, nice facade, but in reality (which is where we live) it's not gonna work.
Cutter
2004-09-10, 08:45 PM
Logistically they're behind the rest of the world. We love the buzz folks - this is a suggestion. it's in the suggestion area of their board. They're asking for suggestions - i'm giving one. They will make more money this way.
the sex molesters
2004-09-10, 11:02 PM
Logistically they're behind the rest of the world. We love the buzz folks - this is a suggestion. it's in the suggestion area of their board. They're asking for suggestions - i'm giving one. They will make more money this way.
no, they would lose money. any increase in line efficiency would be negated by the fact that right now, people with 10 or more posts get the member discount, as well as certain people who are on djs' lists. there are hundreds of "members" of this message board who have never and probably will never make the 10 post per week minimum. buzzlife could approach this issue in one of two ways and make use of a membership card: 1) they could change the rules to allow everyone who's registered on the message board, regardless of post count, have the discount, or 2) they could set up a fairly sophisticated computerized swipe card system at the door, that automatically keeps track of who has the discount and who doesn't.
option 1 is too costly due to the number of people who would be getting in more cheaply.
option 2 is too costly due to the sheer expense of the equipment required, not to mention the cost of printing up magnetic membership cards and sending them out to every member of the message board.
your idea would make sense if buzzlife felt like giving out reduced admission to anyone and everyone, in which case, why don't they just reduce the cost at the door, and save money on membership cards?
the sex molesters
2004-09-10, 11:07 PM
This has so many possibilities. They can't afford NOT to do this. When they start offering them, all you haters can keep on printing out the e-mail and waiting in the "acceptably" long line. I won't have to post because like good businessmen they'll be rewarding me for showing up with my cash instead of ranting on a BBS. This is just the beginning.
Side note - lines could be reduced if they'd pre-sell me tickets (will call so I don't forget them) or let me buy entrances in bulk. I give them $100 and they let me in ten times - punching out holes with a holepunch or the like. 1)They get my money upfront. 2)they know I'm going at least ten times [read drink sales] 3)I get a discount/don't have to wait in silly ticket line. I know... I know, "It's too expensive to sell paper cards and equip the ticket taker with a hole punch. Print out the e-mail..."
the pre-sale tickets idea is a halfway valid one... in fact, many of the special nights already offer presale tickets to ease the long lines at the ticket booths.
sale of 10-night tickets is an interesting idea, perhaps it's worth looking into. the cost of the paper tickets and the hole punch would be probably only marginally more than the cost of the tickets they are already handing out, so in terms of cost, it's doable. i don't think it'd be reasonable to offer a discount on a 10-night pass.... just doesn't seem like it's really making them that much more money to merit giving out an additional discount... well, perhaps the 10 dollar ticket price for buzz members would apply.... i dunno...
the sex molesters
2004-09-10, 11:10 PM
come to think about it, they would probably be better off selling passes on a month-to-month basis.... people know what djs are going to be playing for the coming month, and if they decide that they want to go to every party that month, then they could by the pass..... this way, price could be changed in case of a special concert that's more expensive for buzzlife.... they obviously don't want everyone to buy the month pass instead of paying the special admission price, and then not be able to afford to pay the big dj they booked.
Cutter
2004-09-11, 03:31 PM
no, they would lose money. any increase in line efficiency would be negated by the fact that right now, people with 10 or more posts get the member discount, as well as certain people who are on djs' lists. there are hundreds of "members" of this message board who have never and probably will never make the 10 post per week minimum. buzzlife could approach this issue in one of two ways and make use of a membership card: 1) they could change the rules to allow everyone who's registered on the message board, regardless of post count, have the discount, or 2) they could set up a fairly sophisticated computerized swipe card system at the door, that automatically keeps track of who has the discount and who doesn't.
option 1 is too costly due to the number of people who would be getting in more cheaply.
option 2 is too costly due to the sheer expense of the equipment required, not to mention the cost of printing up magnetic membership cards and sending them out to every member of the message board.
your idea would make sense if buzzlife felt like giving out reduced admission to anyone and everyone, in which case, why don't they just reduce the cost at the door, and save money on membership cards?
I'm talking about changing the method for getting a discount. ten posts is worth $0. Me going to the club is worth something. I spend money at the club! The idea of the membership card is to reward me for going. I go, the more I go, the cheaper it should be. They can give out promo CDs, t-shirts, VIP access etc to say "thank you" and keep people coming back. But instead of giving them away to the folks that come early for the open bar and leave at 12 because the free booze is wearing off, you give them to the people that make you money. Those people feel special and continue spending. It's a big 'ol love fest!
The equipment cost being a cheap ass 486 PC, a card reader and some software. This can be done for like $1000. The cost isn't prohibitive. They can give points for how much you spend - yes, reward people based on profitability. Doing that would seem to shave money off the bottom line, but in reality, you're urging people to spend more. That increases the top line by more than the reduction in the bottom line. The bars already have the equipment they need to handle this. The ticket counter is the only reader they'd need.
This is something they really need to do. It can be used in so many ways. There are an unlimited numbers of ploys and hooks they can setup. It's a proven money maker.
Cutter
2004-09-11, 03:37 PM
the pre-sale tickets idea is a halfway valid one... in fact, many of the special nights already offer presale tickets to ease the long lines at the ticket booths.
sale of 10-night tickets is an interesting idea, perhaps it's worth looking into. the cost of the paper tickets and the hole punch would be probably only marginally more than the cost of the tickets they are already handing out, so in terms of cost, it's doable. i don't think it'd be reasonable to offer a discount on a 10-night pass.... just doesn't seem like it's really making them that much more money to merit giving out an additional discount... well, perhaps the 10 dollar ticket price for buzz members would apply.... i dunno...
Again, I'm looking to reward the folks that post and spend money. This just roles the discount up in a nice package. Last night was ten bucks. Of course, black out dates would apply. the Tiesto show was more expensive and they didn't give any deals. I';m not saying they should let me go see a mega show for $10 because I bought it a month early :-) Not that I had a problem, but I think they should give us first crack at getting tickets for things like that.
As a consumer I'm pleased to give my money upfront because 1)I get a deal 2)I don't have to wait in the ticket line 3) one less thing to worry about. If you set this up on a smart card you could add pre-purchased cubik tickets to my account and have them deducted when the ticket guy swipes my card. That's sexy :-)
Cutter
2004-09-11, 03:38 PM
come to think about it, they would probably be better off selling passes on a month-to-month basis.... people know what djs are going to be playing for the coming month, and if they decide that they want to go to every party that month, then they could by the pass..... this way, price could be changed in case of a special concert that's more expensive for buzzlife.... they obviously don't want everyone to buy the month pass instead of paying the special admission price, and then not be able to afford to pay the big dj they booked.
The structure could be done a bunch of ways. This I think should be a different thread "Pre-puchased entry fees" or something. This is a good idea linked to a smart card or not. We should suggest that too!
plur2all
2004-09-13, 10:05 AM
I'm sure buzzlife is grateful for the suggestion, but it's not going to happen. Can the discussion be over now?
Cutter
2004-09-13, 10:19 PM
I woudln't have seen it again had you just let it lay.
Kidskeptic
2004-09-15, 09:56 PM
to much to ask for already get a discount but it would be cool if they hooked you up with some tight graphic stickers that would be phat :leon:
hokiegl
2004-09-29, 04:20 PM
That would be one more thing that I would need to carry aroung. Its just not worth it