Has anyone ever been cut off at Nation?

[sassypance]

From my experience, I have never seen a Nation bartender cut off someone that has had entirely too much to drink. I've seen security step in and throw people out if they can't walk, or they're throwing up... Does anyone else see a problem with this?

In Florida, you constantly see people that have had too much getting their bands ripped off by the bartenders, and you don't see security trying to remove them... they just let them be so they can try to sober up... unless they cause a stir in some way, shape or form, they're allowed to stay, just not drink.

[tigermomma]

I usually get my wristband taken when I pass out on the toilet or go back to the drunk tank.

I'm attempting to avoid that now though :D

[zartan]

nation's too packed and loud and chaotic for the bartenders at many of the bars to really know how drunk you are.

[sassypance]

Before people get to that point though... isn't a bartenders job to be a judge of whom they should and shouldn't serve?

[tigermomma]

Like Eric said, sometimes its hard to tell. Besides most places dont have the amount of bouncers like Nation (none that I have been to anyway)...I've noticed the bars and clubs where there is a min of bouncers, the bartenders step in alot...but the bouncers are there to do their job.

I've had my band taken by a bouncer once because he didnt want me kicked out. He was also a friend though. :shrug:

[sassypance]

Regardless, I find it a tad irresponsible. Knowing how many of my friends that get completely obliterated there... and then maybe even drive afterwards... It's f'd up to know that a bartender is going to keep on serving them until they fall over and get themselves kicked out.

[tigermomma]

I've noticed most people dont get obliterated until after they stop drinking...with the exception of the hardcore alkies <3

I know with me, I dont start getting sick until about 30-40 mins after I get a water.

:shrug:

I would take it up with Nation security though.

[sassypance]

Apparently, security and I don't get along too well (por ejemplo: see location)

[Zodiac*Blue]

People like me. *raises his hand* RBVs get me in trouble... they taste soooo damn good. I was thrown in the drunk tank this past friday @ 3am but it was all good. I was still partying it up, having fun, and making people laugh (even if it was at me) :thumbsup: Not quite sure why they put me back there... Justine said I puked but I honestly don't remember that. :hmm: Then again, I don't remember Cliff dryhumping me up against the wall right after we got introduced either soooooo it very well could have happened.

[RevisionC]

People like me. *raises his hand* RBVs get me in trouble... they taste soooo damn good. I was thrown in the drunk tank this past friday @ 3am but it was all good. I was still partying it up, having fun, and making people laugh (even if it was at me) :thumbsup: Not quite sure why they put me back there... Justine said I puked but I honestly don't remember that. :hmm: Then again, I don't remember Cliff dryhumping me up against the wall right after we got introduced either soooooo it very well could have happened.


and the ass grabbing incident in front of that girl you were trying to impress :wink:

[tigermomma]

Damn Kevin.

Why cant you act like that when I see you?

[badkitty3804]

Regardless, I find it a tad irresponsible. Knowing how many of my friends that get completely obliterated there... and then maybe even drive afterwards... It's f'd up to know that a bartender is going to keep on serving them until they fall over and get themselves kicked out.
People need to learn some personal responsibility. It's not the bartenders fault that you weren't responsible enough to find a DD or a cab to get to the club, nor is it thier fault if you drink yourself into a ER because you can't put down a drink.

Either get friends to watch after your ass when you KNOW you're getting obliterated or be prepared to deal with it.

[sassypance]

So are you saying you would still serve someone when you know they plan on drinking themselves into the ER?

[badkitty3804]

If a person can't even hold the drink without help, no, I would not serve them. That's where security comes in....

But it's not a bartenders job to play babysitter as well bartending to crowds that hit excess numbers like Nation.

[mattb]

When I saw this thread, I though immediately... "Where’s Kevin?" surely he must have some insight to add…. And I wasn’t disappointed. :D



People like me. *raises his hand* RBVs get me in trouble... they taste soooo damn good. I was thrown in the drunk tank this past friday @ 3am but it was all good. I was still partying it up, having fun, and making people laugh (even if it was at me) :thumbsup: Not quite sure why they put me back there... Justine said I puked but I honestly don't remember that. :hmm: Then again, I don't remember Cliff dryhumping me up against the wall right after we got introduced either soooooo it very well could have happened.

[sassypance]

If a person can't even hold the drink without help, no, I would not serve them. That's where security comes in....

But it's not a bartenders job to play babysitter as well bartending to crowds that hit excess numbers like Nation.

Then why doesn't security step in more often and take peoples bands? I honestly think this should be done more frequently.

[juicyjay]

and the ass grabbing incident in front of that girl you were trying to impress :wink:

i grabbed kevins ass that night too haha

[sassypance]

And why doesn't it happen BEFORE someone that we all know and love is killed, injured, etc. from a night at Nation...

[tigermomma]

As much as I agree with you Em, there have been lawsuits against bars and clubs for contributing to a driver being that intoxicated...esp if they kick them out.

:gotme:

[RevisionC]

i grabbed kevins ass that night too haha


yes.......but he was probally happy when you did it.......

he wasn't happy when I did it............that girl who he was trying to impress was laughing at him........he wasn't pleased at all.........

[badkitty3804]

Can you look at a person and tell when they've had too much?

I know that I tend to appear more drunk than I actually am, but that's because of my personality and general mannerisms.

I know that I've seen huge guys that are TANKED look and act completely sober.



PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

[sassypance]

As much as I agree with you Em, there have been lawsuits against bars and clubs for contributing to a driver being that intoxicated...esp if they kick them out.

:gotme:

Exactly. The place is at fault as much as the person is that leaves it.

[drumnbrave]

If a person can't even hold the drink without help, no, I would not serve them. That's where security comes in....

But it's not a bartenders job to play babysitter as well bartending to crowds that hit excess numbers like Nation.


well...actually, i think it is their job to decide when to cut people off...as much as i disagree with it, nation is liable for asses who get smashed and drive home...i'm pretty sure nation is legally responsible if that person gets into an accident and it is found out that they were drinking at nation. then they could face major fines and lawsuits...but i could be wrong

[sassypance]

Can you look at a person and tell when they've had too much?

I know that I tend to appear more drunk than I actually am, but that's because of my personality and general mannerisms.

I know that I've seen huge guys that are TANKED look and act completely sober.



PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Who goes out on a Friday night and honestly wants to be "responsible"... not many Nation patrons.

[badkitty3804]

As much as I agree with you Em, there have been lawsuits against bars and clubs for contributing to a driver being that intoxicated...esp if they kick them out.

:gotme:
I'm sorry, but I honestly have no sympathy for a person that gets tanked in the club knowing that they have to drive. I've done it, and it's a horribly stupid thing to do. If people would be a bit more responsible about it, this would all be a moot point.

[tigermomma]

Though most places I have seen people kicked out from, they have waited until a cab got there and ensured that the person TOOK the cab home.

Shit, I've been so drunk at Nation, I've had the security OFFER to take me home so I would have drive.

I think the bartenders and security are pretty on point for a club that size (and excuse me for saying this) but it doesnt help when they are more concerned with things that arent related to drinking.

(I'll edit that if I need to)

[juicyjay]

yes.......but he was probally happy when you did it.......

he wasn't happy when I did it............that girl who he was trying to impress was laughing at him........he wasn't pleased at all.........

:afterbuzz:

[badkitty3804]

Who goes out on a Friday night and honestly wants to be "responsible"... not many Nation patrons.
and that's the clubs fault?

[tigermomma]

I'm sorry, but I honestly have no sympathy for a person that gets tanked in the club knowing that they have to drive. I've done it, and it's a horribly stupid thing to do. If people would be a bit more responsible about it, this would all be a moot point.
I'm all for personal accountability, you should know this, but trusting people to hold themselves responsible doesnt always happen and could have grave consequences for people on the street.

I understand where you are coming from, but there has to be responsibility on both sides and most times there isnt on either.

[Zodiac*Blue]

and the ass grabbing incident in front of that girl you were trying to impress :wink:

I seek to impress no one Curt. I didn't even know liberty was a she :neener: kinda clued me in when she damanded a purple pony with pink polka dots but it wasn't even like that. So stop assuming.

[Zodiac*Blue]

When I saw this thread, I though immediately... "Where’s Kevin?" surely he must have some insight to add…. And I wasn’t disappointed. :D

Damn... Is it that bad??? :afterbuzz:

[drumnbrave]

I'm sorry, but I honestly have no sympathy for a person that gets tanked in the club knowing that they have to drive. I've done it, and it's a horribly stupid thing to do. If people would be a bit more responsible about it, this would all be a moot point.


no...i believe the sympathy belongs to the poor innocent people who are hit by drunk drivers...and you can't expect people to be accountible for their own actions...that's just asking too much from the human race

[badkitty3804]

I'm all for personal accountability, you should know this, but trusting people to hold themselves responsible doesnt always happen and could have grave consequences for people on the street.

I understand where you are coming from, but there has to be responsibility on both sides and most times there isnt on either.

Okay, let's make the bartenders also take on the role of security/babysitters. I can't wait for the influx of people bitching about how the bartender made them wait an extra minute to pour thier drink. And I can't wait for the moment when one of the people saying that the club should start ripping off bracelets more often, actually have security try to snatch thiers.

Don't even get me started on the underage drinking....

[Zodiac*Blue]

Accountability.... dontchu have to go to school for that or something?

[sassypance]

Though most places I have seen people kicked out from, they have waited until a cab got there and ensured that the person TOOK the cab home.

Shit, I've been so drunk at Nation, I've had the security OFFER to take me home so I would have drive.

I think the bartenders and security are pretty on point for a club that size (and excuse me for saying this) but it doesnt help when they are more concerned with things that arent related to drinking.

(I'll edit that if I need to)

You shouldn't have to edit it... I agree as well.

[sassypance]

Funshine went out on a limb and had Niki Slik kicked out because of her underage drinking. You all should try doing that sometime in order to keep the club that you all "love"... It's mostly YOUR friends that are doing it.

[Zodiac*Blue]

Funshine went out on a limb and had Niki Slik kicked out because of her underage drinking. You all should try doing that sometime in order to keep the club that you all "love"... It's mostly YOUR friends that are doing it.

I'd do it.

[tigermomma]

Okay, let's make the bartenders also take on the role of security/babysitters. I can't wait for the influx of people bitching about how the bartender made them wait an extra minute to pour thier drink. And I can't wait for the moment when one of the people saying that the club should start ripping off bracelets more often, actually have security try to snatch thiers.

Don't even get me started on the underage drinking.... I'm not disagreeing with you and I dont think measures that drastic need to be taken. Its more the getting kicked out while still completely obliterated. The only one out of Nation security (and though I was the brunt of this, I understood the reasoning behind it) is Raven. I was drunk and she took me back, took my bracelet, and wouldnt let me go back into the club until I was leaving. She also asked if I was driving and if so to give her my keys.

I think people need to have responsibility for their actions, but I think Nation has partial responsibility when they kick an obviously drunk person out.

[drumnbrave]

i don't think i would rat on my friends...that's just some low shit

[Zodiac*Blue]

However, I would say something to the person first.

[Zodiac*Blue]

i don't think i would rat on my friends...that's just some low shit

Depends on how you approach the situation. Tact.

[badkitty3804]

I'm not disagreeing with you and I dont think measures that drastic need to be taken. Its more the getting kicked out while still completely obliterated. The only one out of Nation security (and though I was the brunt of this, I understood the reasoning behind it) is Raven. I was drunk and she took me back, took my bracelet, and wouldnt let me go back into the club until I was leaving. She also asked if I was driving and if so to give her my keys.

I think people need to have responsibility for their actions, but I think Nation has partial responsibility when they kick an obviously drunk person out. Look at it from the clubs perspective....

keep people that are completely trashed INSIDE of the club where they have the most liability and chances of that drunk effecting paying customers? Or kick them out?

There isn't enough space in the club to make a giant 'drunk tank'. People that happen to know the 'right' people can slip back into VIP or a backroom....consider yourselves lucky.

[RevisionC]

Damn... Is it that bad??? :afterbuzz:


dude.........really...........do you even need to ask this question??? :ez: :chairfall:

[Zodiac*Blue]

:FUBAR:

[tigermomma]

I'm also not saying not to kick them out. But when you get kicked out for being too drunk, there should be some effort at getting you a sober ride.

I definitely have mixed feelings about this and I dont think there is a right answer. HOWEVER in my experience the bouncers at Nation have always been willing to find friends inside at the end of the night so I'm not out by myself, or to let me stay inside the vestibule, or to wave a taxi for me, or to offer a ride to me themselves.

I just believe that clubs and bars have a responsibility to their patrons when they are THAT drunk (to be kicked out) to ensure their safety and the safety of others, even if its just because it could become a liability (which could happen)

[sassypance]

consider yourselves lucky.

they shouldn't have to and that right should be extended to much more people instead of the kick on the ass out of the door.

[Zodiac*Blue]

Damn Kevin.

Why cant you act like that when I see you?

You hardly ever come to Cubik :crying2:

[tigermomma]

they shouldn't have to and that right should be extended to much more people instead of the kick on the ass out of the door.
I definitely disagree with that. There is not enough space to allow random people back there because they are too drunk.

[tigermomma]

You hardly ever come to Cubik :crying2:
Alas I am taking a break from the scene for *just* a bit. Finances arent what they used to be :D

[badkitty3804]

I've ALWAYS had security let me track down people and go in and out of the club when helping drunk friends find rides. Usually there are cabs out front as well. Then there's the metro. If you're THAT bad, there's a hotel a short walk away.

:shrug:

[sassypance]

key word: RANDOM

what does being random have to do with being drunk and having a place to sober up??

[badkitty3804]

key word: RANDOM

what does being random have to do with being drunk and having a place to sober up??
The function of that room IS NOT a drunk holding cell.

It's not a frikkin' daycare center. It's a dance club/bar for ADULTS.

[tigermomma]

When I posted it was more of a general reference, not to Nation in particular. And thats exactly the stance that clubs should have. To say that no club or bar is accountable for its customers when they kick them out is ludicrous and irresponsible on their part. Two wrongs def dont make a right in this situation.

[sassypance]

i'm just saying that didn't make any sense... i mean say a RANDOM gets into a crash, what are people going to say? he shoulda been a buzzboarder???

[tigermomma]

There are lots of places in that club to sober up, particularly the patio and hte upstairs levels.

You dont need the back room (which is small) to accomplish that.

[badkitty3804]

i'm just saying that didn't make any sense... i mean say a RANDOM gets into a crash, what are people going to say? he shoulda been a buzzboarder???

Hence the reason that I said the people taht DO get to crash in VIP are LUCKY.

[Zodiac*Blue]

Alas I am taking a break from the scene for *just* a bit. Finances arent what they used to be :D

Yeah I understand and all. Can't wait to see you out more often. We miss you! :smooch: (Im pretty sure I can speak for the regulars)

[sassypance]

i've said my piece, night all.

[tigermomma]

Yeah I understand and all. Can't wait to see you out more often. We miss you! :smooch: (Im pretty sure I can speak for the regulars)
:snog:

[buster]

an interesting observation from someone that is underage...

i know lots of people that have been cut off by bartenders. in fact - Funshine got cut off just two weeks ago.

while it is a bartenders responsibility to keep an eye on customers - it is nearly impossible for them to keep track of the number of drinks a customer has had. there are so many bars that someone can get a drink from a different bartender for hours. thats where security comes in to play.

despite what you think you know - security keeps a very close eye on the sobriety of people. people get taken to the infamous 'drunk tank' where a nation security member keeps a watch over them and makes sure they are ok. they dont let the person out until they have a sober ride to take them home.

i appreciate your concern funkstyle - but i dont think you are fully aware of how things work.

[sassypance]

an interesting observation from someone that is underage...


it was only a matter of time before my competency on the topic was frowned upon... i expected that. however after hearing about an incident with binger, what happened with niki and what i have seen/experienced, i felt completely justified in bringing this up.

[tigermomma]

:wave:

I know this from experience. Though I have had people I've known been kicked out because of aggression and uhm....yeah...and werent afforded that opportunity. Though I guess if I were Nation security I wouldnt take too kindly to them either.

:shrug:

[Zodiac*Blue]

They actually do pay attention to sobriety pretty closely... but god forbid you accidentally trip, stumble, or fall when you are sober and a bouncer sees it.

[tigermomma]

Nah, they usually talk to you for a while to test you out. I've had it happen. Come to think of it, I've almost had a bartender take my band and kick me out because he thought I was wasted and I had had one drink.

He was a bitchy man that night.

*drunk memories haze together*

[sassypance]

i fall over either way.... some people are just extremely bad on their feet.

[Zodiac*Blue]

Or maybe im just so notorious that if they see me trip, stumble, or fall they automatically assume im crunked. :ponder:

[RevisionC]

They actually do pay attention to sobriety pretty closely... but god forbid you accidentally trip, stumble, or fall when you are sober and a bouncer sees it.


so that's why security came up to me last week to see if i was ok????

[sassypance]

ok, i'm done, i need some sleep. ciao.

[Zodiac*Blue]

And whatever you do... don't spit in the trashcans! It can look like you are puking. The one lady bartender saw me do that but I think she thought I was getting sick. Curt saw what was happening and pulled me away just in time as she was trying to get a bouncer... I had no idea. My hero *swoons*

[Zodiac*Blue]

so that's why security came up to me last week to see if i was ok????

I would not doubt that's why.

[RevisionC]

I would not doubt that's why.

no......i wasn't drunk last week..........never :wink:

My hero *swoons*
:dan:

[Zodiac*Blue]

Right. I DO remember the Jaeger shots you bleepity bleep. Im pretty sure thats what hit my stomach wrong. No more Jaeger for meh.

[RevisionC]

Right. I DO remember the Jaeger shots you bleepity bleep. Im pretty sure thats what hit my stomach wrong. No more Jaeger for meh.

becky had no trouble with hers..........you looked like you were going to be sick though..........weaksauce :shady:

[Wickity]

no no no no no no no no no no no no no


It is not anyone else's responsibility to watch over you... Stop asking other people to do the job that you should be doing for yourself.

And FWIW, I have seen bartenders refuse to serve people they thought had enough, but those people just walk over to another bar and order a drink. For the most part, people can hide the fact that they are obliterated for the length of time it takes to order a drink.

[Zodiac*Blue]

Im sure she didn't. Let her drink 4 Rum&Cokes first then 2 RBV's then take a shot of jaeger and then drink another RBV and see if she has problems... :shady:X2 I probably would have been ok w/o that shot but I still appreciate it, don't get me wrong. I just know for next time.

[RevisionC]

For the most part, people can hide the fact that they are obliterated for the length of time it takes to order a drink.


:yes:
or they just have someone else get the drink for them

[cleophite]

i know lots of people that have been cut off by bartenders. in fact - Funshine got cut off just two weeks ago.

while it is a bartenders responsibility to keep an eye on customers - it is nearly impossible for them to keep track of the number of drinks a customer has had. there are so many bars that someone can get a drink from a different bartender for hours. thats where security comes in to play.

despite what you think you know - security keeps a very close eye on the sobriety of people. people get taken to the infamous 'drunk tank' where a nation security member keeps a watch over them and makes sure they are ok. they dont let the person out until they have a sober ride to take them home.
I really agree with you here. I waitress and serve alcohol, and its not always an easy thing to tell when someone has had too much to drink. You have to go with your best judgement, which is usually reserved for the "advanced" cases (ie- someone puking in the bathroom, falling on their face, acting like a complete slob, etc), and even then, sometimes they still get served. My job is made easier by the fact that my restaurant is considerably smaller than a nightclub, so its easier for me to watch how many drinks are poured, check a tab, or see who has the car keys. I have forcibly cut two people off in the entire year I've worked there.

I can only image how much more difficult it is to keep an eye on people at a dark & crowded nightclub, especially since chances are you don't know if person A is driving and you might not even know how much they've had to drink because they might not have a running tab with you. For the record, I've seen friends and randoms have their drinking bracelets removed when they've had too much. I think that bartenders (and bouncers) do the best they can, and are almost sure to step in if the person is extremely wasted; other than that, its not always easy for them to justify it. That other part needs to lie in the hands of the person downing 6 drinks at open bar. Its fucking ridiculous that anyone who is driving should act like that, but it happens. People just need to start thinking a little more. no, i'm sorry, edit: a lot more.

[asian]

bartenders do cut people off, and bouncers do rip off drinking bands. i have seen it happen time and time again. and just so you know, security doesn't just throw people out when they are trashed and puking. they have a drunk take in the back which i am sure more than a few of you have frequented. they sit your happy ass back there and try to find your friends so they can drive you home.

but the bottom line is watch yourself and your friends and take responsibility for your actions. it is not anyone's job to babysit you, and if you notice a pattern of getting way to drunk and then putting the blame on others, then you have a problem.

[asian]

hey look, buster and i said the same thing. i really should read threads all the way through before i post but sometimes there is just too much to read.

[asian]

Funshine went out on a limb and had Niki Slik kicked out because of her underage drinking. You all should try doing that sometime in order to keep the club that you all "love"... It's mostly YOUR friends that are doing it.
so according to this, you should be thanking me? right on.

nation staff will not throw your ass out for being drunk, but they will throw your ass out for fighting.

[cleophite]

hey look, buster and i said the same thing. i really should read threads all the way through before i post but sometimes there is just too much to read.echo ... echo ... echo .. :hypnotized:

maybe if we all start writing important things in 3's it'll sink in?

[sassypance]

jessie, shut it. *exits finally...*

[Muramasa]

People just need to start thinking a little more. no, i'm sorry, edit: a lot more.

Edit: "People just need to start thinking."
:thumbsup:

After 1am, people should be forced to write their name backwards on paper before being served. Some people may not be able to do this sober, but perhaps it's better that way.

:ontome:

[asian]

i was just commenting on your previous experience, and agreeing with some of what you said.

where's the love?

[sassypance]

on my middle finger...ass.

notice that 2/3s of the people that posted in this thread actually agree about something that i mentioned... hmm yeah... you just may want to actually read shit before you go yapping away.

[Mandaba]

you might actually want to know all the facts before discussing your "experience". stop avoiding the point that a person should be responsible for their actions. stop making it seem like a bartender in a club that is generally packed and/or crowded should be babysitting the patrons that decide to drink. security and the bartenders im sure are a group effort when spotting a person who has had way too much to drink. buster and jessie made good points, as did emily.

[sassypance]

you fail to see the fact that i'm not the only one who has qualms about it not happening nearly as much as it should.

[badkitty3804]

It's the club's set up, it's worked out up to this point....best than a lot of other clubs I know. :shrug:

[sassypance]

before the mod/admin kiss ass crew stepped in, this was all pretty meaningful discussion....

[sassypance]

It's the club's set up, it's worked out up to this point....best than a lot of other clubs I know. :shrug:

i disagree. anyhow, glad certain events took place concerning nation.

[badkitty3804]

I'm ignoring the fact that personal drama is being brought into this....

I've been involved in the bar/high drink volume rest. industry for years now...and it's one thing to say the stuff when you're on the comfy side of the bar. Whole different perspective when you frequent BOTH sides of the bar. Open up your eyes and give a different viewpoint a chance instead of being so closeminded to your own opinions.

[cleophite]

I'm ignoring the fact that personal drama is being brought into this....

I've been involved in the bar/high drink volume rest. industry for years now...and it's one thing to say the stuff when you're on the comfy side of the bar. Whole different perspective when you frequent BOTH sides of the bar. Open up your eyes and give a different viewpoint a chance instead of being so closeminded to your own opinions.it IS really different. i think the key point here is that it would be nice if security and bartenders could catch some of these things, but we need to understand that that's NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE. besides, if they were really intrusive about it, people would be really pissed if the bartender cut them off before they were even buzzed.

[sassypance]

from a PM i wrote about this thread : actually my sister reminded me recently about a guy we knew that was coming home from nation one night after buzz, hit a guy on the side of the road as he was changing his tire, and then dragged him underneath his car all the way back to VA...

*edit: apparently it was velvet* (once again, not pointing out cubik or buzz was never my intention, this is purely about NATION.)

guaranteed all of you would have a shit fit if you or one of your friends, was the driver or the victim in something like this. but of course, change never happens until something horrible does.

[RevisionC]

notice that 2/3s of the people that posted in this thread actually agree about something that i mentioned... hmm yeah...


actually while I have read and posted in this thread and have agreed with some of what you've said, personally I think that while nation "can" be sued if someone gets hurt leaving their club or whatever.......and while the bartender could be charged for serving you those drinks. It's just not technically possible for them to keep track of everyone they serve concidering the amount of people through the doors a night and how many different places there are in that club to buy drinks........I know I hardly visit the same bartender more than 2ice in a night. I'm all over the club usually when I drink. It'd just be to hard for them to keep track of everyones drinking amount........and I know security has checked on me to see if I'm ok, while they haven't personally ripped off my band, I have seen many people get theirs ripped off.

I did think it was a little odd though that'd you'd be all over this concidering your not even supposed to be drinking in the club though as did others probally....even still thats not the issue here.......

There is one thing I'd like to see though......more taxi's out in front of nation....I hardly see any out there yet not even a few blocks down the road there are always a shitload...

[badkitty3804]

from a PM i wrote about this thread : actually my sister reminded me recently about a guy we knew that was coming home from nation one night after buzz, hit a guy on the side of the road as he was changing his tire, and then dragged him underneath his car all the way back to VA...


guaranteed all of you would have a shit fit if you or one of your friends, was the driver or the victim in something like this. but of course, change never happens until something horrible does. I wouldn't blame the bar though.

I'd be horribly pissed at my friend for putting thierself in that position (driver wise), and if my friend was the victim, lord help the drunk driver.

Don't act like none of us have dealt with this. I've helped put plenty of friends in the ground.

[asian]

if that is the reason why you started this thread, then i think you should know that the guy tested negative for alcohol in his body.

i don't quite understand why you get so upset when people don't agree with you.

[badkitty3804]

There is one thing I'd like to see though......more taxi's out in front of nation....I hardly see any out there yet not even a few blocks down the road there are always a shitload...
That gets a huge :werd:

[Mandaba]

i would like to see you be in the shoes of the bartenders/security for one night, and see how it is. i dont think many of us can say what it is like, granted a few who serve alcohol can, to be able to keep an eye on EVERYONE who is served. from what i have SEEN at nation- bartenders and security have done a good job. i honestly doubt you see EVERYTHING that happens between bartenders/security guards. you might see a few people here and there get way too wasted- but the ratio of patrons vs authority kind of prohibits so much.

[sassypance]

if that is the reason why you started this thread, then i think you should know that the guy tested negative for alcohol in his body.

i don't quite understand why you get so upset when people don't agree with you.

it's not that, i can take criticism, just not from the mod-squad... kristin posted something negative! sound the horn! :rolleyes:

and btw, trying to help out on the 'no drug talk on the board' issue there.... thanks for blowing that spot up.

[Mandaba]

the reason we are disagreeing with you is because we dont think you know what the hell you are talking about or dont agree. this is not a kiss ass situation, dont turn it into one.

[badkitty3804]

<~~not a mod

just speaking her miz-zind

[asian]

are you done yet or do you have more irrelevant and ignorant thoughts to cough up?

why can't we play nice? all i want to do is get along with you.

[sassypance]

you all never think i have a clue... HELLOOOOOOOOO how much shit have i, myself gotten away with in that club? yeah, i'm so ignorant on the topic right.....

i'll just use myself as the example here. honestly, in all my years there, i have had ONE problem with security. ONE. i have gotten away with waaaaaaaay too much there. sometimes when you realize that, you notice that something should change.... i'm not doing half the things i was before and i'm slowing down on everything else. however, it's just a recurring problem in THAT particular place. hence all of the negative press....

[Mandaba]

do you want a personal thank you from the buzzlife staff? nation security? im sure something can be arranged.

[sassypance]

cookie, maybe.

[sassypance]

hey, all in all if you're not concerned about your fellow man, that's just your prerogative... fuck it.

[asian]

this is really not the place to brag that you do fucked up shit. it makes you seem so cool and mature. :rolleyes:

next topic please.

[sassypance]

yes, bragging was the point of that post... hmm. you wonder why i can't stand you...

[badkitty3804]

hey, all in all if you're not concerned about your fellow man, that's just your prerogative... fuck it. well, the people getting tanked knowing that they have to drive...where's their concern about fellow man?

One day you'll get what we're saying about personal responsibility....I hope.

There are reasons that I think 21+ is good for alcohol, especially in the states.

[asian]

kristen, keep personal shit off the board if you can't take the heat. i am trying to be diplomatic and you make it very difficult.

[drumnbrave]

hey, all in all if you're not concerned about your fellow man, that's just your prerogative... fuck it.

man has to be concerned bout himself first..if he's gonna be getting crunked...he's gotta think about his actions and prepare for it...you can't pass that responsibility down the line to the bartenders and security...although they do the very best that they can do...everyone knows that more shit goes on there then we care to discuss openly...but it's just impossible to catch and prevent everything that happens there...i for one applaud the efforts of all the nation staff in their attempts to provide for us a safe party environment that is, for the most part, drama free...it is because of them we are able to enjoy the quality music every weekend

[sassypance]

kristen, keep personal shit off the board if you can't take the heat. i am trying to be diplomatic and you make it very difficult.

you dumbass, you've been making sly comments all throughout this, do i have to use the quote function. honestly, why don't you just try to avoid me like i've been trying to avoid you and stay out of threads i make?

that's much more diplomatic.

[badkitty3804]

ok...BACK on topic.?

take it to PMs if you must?

[Mandaba]

yes insulting and throwing names at buzzlife authority figures is a great job.

[Lexx]

Trust me, stay out of it. It'll only lead to no good. :wink:

man has to be concerned bout himself first..if he's gonna be getting crunked...he's gotta think about his actions and prepare for it...you can't pass that responsibility down the line to the bartenders and security...although they do the very best that they can do...everyone knows that more shit goes on there then we care to discuss openly...but it's just impossible to catch and prevent everything that happens there...i for one applaud the efforts of all the nation staff in their attempts to provide for us a safe party environment that is, for the most part, drama free...it is because of them we are able to enjoy the quality music every weekend

[sassypance]

she an ass in PMs too... we've already tried that tonight.

[asian]

you are so far from sly that it isn't even funny. one more rude bit like that and you are getting a break from the board. i'm sure you won't mind because it's just the internet anyways.

[drumnbrave]

Trust me, stay out of it. It'll only lead to no good :wink:


you're right...what the hell was i thinking? :touchmymonkey:

[drumnbrave]

*backs out slowly

[asian]

and when you start a pm out with fuck off and shut up, you aren't going to get nice results.

stop hurting my feelings.

[sassypance]

you should try to take a hint sometime but apparently subtlties don't work well with you. i've said how many times to avoid me like the plague like i try to avoid you and yet you incessantly continue to reply when this doesn't concern BUZZLIFE nor CUBIK....

this concerns nation.

[sassypance]

i tried to step out of this thread when this was still good conversation and when emily had good points to defend herself. this is just ridiculous. thank you....

[Mandaba]

and cubik and buzzlife have NO relation to nation. at all.

[sassypance]

and cubik and buzzlife have NO relation to nation. at all.

it's not anything that buzzlife or cubik should be taking care of. they throw the party and they are the party. they're not responsible for nation's staff.

[RevisionC]

it's not anything that buzzlife or cubik should be taking care of. they throw the party and they are the party. they're not responsible for nation's staff.

but they'll be the ones asked to move if something happens.......the lesser guys always are the ones let go

[asian]

like i said to you over pm's, you have no idea how buzz and nation work together, so please stop making these stupid comments. things that concern nation concern buzzlife, and vice versa. now stop dragging personal stuff into this thread, ok?

[sassypance]

alright i've already even tried to DEFEND buzzlife and cubik on this issue and i swore i would never do such a thing. this should die already.

[Mandaba]

im still trying to figure out why you're pissy about her replying to a thread where she obviously had/has something to contribute. eh oh well. time for bed.

[asian]

i'm not quite sure what the problem is, but i did come across something that made me laugh:

"I am not sure if there is any help for your immaturity, however I am sure that by now you are used to the substandard life your immaturity provides you."

[Lexx]

Um...I've never been cut-off at Nation. :D

[sassypance]

immaturity = your last post and every fucked up PM. way to go. knock it off for the millionth time.

[badkitty3804]

Um...I've never been cut-off at Nation. :D
yet.

This will be fixed.

jaeger will help.

[asian]

kristen, what did i say about personal stuff? tsk tsk.

[sassypance]

i dare you to say that wasn't targeted at me....

[Lexx]

We shall see :yes:

BWAHAHAHA'n' stuff.

yet.

This will be fixed.

jaeger will help.

[asian]

it could be targeted at a lot of people, including myself. the opint is, it made me laugh.

now hush now, not everything is about you. :D

[punkasschikadee]

Before people get to that point though... isn't a bartenders job to be a judge of whom they should and shouldn't serve?

isn't it a persons job to know when they should stop drinking?

[RevisionC]

i dare you to say that wasn't targeted at me....


maybe it was targeted at

Then again, I don't remember Cliff dryhumping me up against the wall right after we got introduced either soooooo it very well could have happened.


or

and the ass grabbing incident in front of that girl you were trying to impress :wink:

:shrug:

[sassypance]

maybe jessie should do her job for once (not her day job of stirring up more shit) but her apparent night job of being an admin on the board and closing a thread when someone asks for it to be closed.

[asian]

i'm so sorry, i didn't realize that you wanted this thread to be closed. it seemed like you were having such a good time heaping abuse on me. after i close this thread, i am going to go reflect on the days events and cry.

[RevisionC]

[punkasschikadee]

no no no no no no no no no no no no no


It is not anyone else's responsibility to watch over you... Stop asking other people to do the job that you should be doing for yourself.

And FWIW, I have seen bartenders refuse to serve people they thought had enough, but those people just walk over to another bar and order a drink. For the most part, people can hide the fact that they are obliterated for the length of time it takes to order a drink.

:affection:

[RevisionC]

hi sarah

[RevisionC]

I was never cut off.

[RevisionC]

I like puppy dogs

[Lexx]

Hey look!!!!




























I'm bouncy :bounce:

[RevisionC]

146?

[RevisionC]

Hey look!!!!























I'm bouncy :bounce:

bouncing is fun

[RevisionC]

bounce bounce bounce

[RevisionC]

lock this fucker up

[Lexx]

only with a blond and a red-hed :D

Bouncing is fun

[RevisionC]

brunette and red-head :yes:

[punkasschikadee]

hey everyone be quiet theres fighting to be done

[RevisionC]

hey everyone be quiet theres fighting to be done

shush you....let it die....

[RevisionC]

since i wasted a perfectly good movie in a welcome thread (http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42227&highlight=istanbul)..........i'm going to post it here too.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/perfectrevelation/temp2/tmbg.html

[punkasschikadee]

<3

[Lexx]

Final thought: Message boards are funny

[asian]

they might be giants rule...thanks for the link. :D

locky time, sorry people had to witness this.

good night!

[AmandaHuie]

saving this from being pruned.

[Cliff]

:woot: