Light Dancers/Glowstick Fiends

[L00p33]

Hey...I posted something about this awhile ago on a different Forum/Thread but with recent outbreaks of irritation toward the glowstickers or as I will call them "glowbugs", I want to jump in with my two-cents.

I used to run a light and laser show in a large venue in Virginia Beach. Something that we tried and actually worked quite well for the little "glowbugs" was to give them a space of their own. Now I know some people can't dance without lights attached to them somewhere. I can respect their artistic rights. I personally do not do the personal light thing, but far be it for me to tell someone how to express themselves!

While trying to respect their rights and individual talents, sometimes there just isn't room for their glow-stick-on-a-whip or their poles-of-glowing-murder! :traviswork: I suggested letting the glowbugs on the stage when not in use. It would be plenty dark back there (fun for them), and room to hit eachother all they want (fun for us on the dance floor). There are the dangers of falling off of course, perhaps a warning rope could be run from wall to wall or area roped off? I don't know...just a suggestion. We gave them a space and it seemed to work out well. The glowbugs like eachother and people could watch them from afar without taking up valuable dance floor space.

[Kitty*Go*Splat]

Not a bad idea. That way t's your own fault if you get wacked. Tho it may be nations call to whether the stage can be used for dancers or not. I think they make keep it closed for a reason.

[L00p33]

You know, if the stage couldn't be used, perhaps a back corner? like the left back corner or some junk...even rope it off? I don't know...just brainstorming...solving a problem instead of just calling names and talking about it randomly.

[bboyneko]

My problem is 99% of people with glowsticks either on their hands or on the ends of strings is they suck. Poi is an actual technical dance and has specific moves and foundation. When I see a good Poi dancer im like woah nice. Buts its very rare. Most people just twirls them. Some jus use them like nachaku which is fine too but not as flowing as poi IMO.

GLowsticks on your hands..just doing the nordic trac with your feet and making a pretend ball in the air in front of you with glowsticks tucked between your fingers does not look good.

Liquid is also a technical dance that can be studied taught and practised like any other dance.

very very very very rarely do I see someone who has obviously been studying liquid for a few months or years and actually can bust out complicated transitions and forms.

SO Basically I wouldnt mind either type of glowstick dancers if they could actually dance. But since most cant..it just becomes a huge irritation with them taking up space with what is essentialy seizures.

[OhSoDawny]

I don't think anyone would mind glowstickers if they could all actually dance without hurting someone, especially if they're doing it well. Unfortunatly we don't get to seperate those who can and cannot. I completely agree with you on the forms of dance and it's a shame to see people ruin like they do.

[Scoobie-Snax]

GLowsticks on your hands..just doing the nordic trac with your feet and making a pretend ball in the air in front of you with glowsticks tucked between your fingers does not look good.

*gets on Nordic Track picks up glowsticks and makes pretend ball* (Just 4 U)

[L00p33]

I think it is unfair to say whether a person can or can't "do it right". If it feels good to them, that is all that should matter - How many people dance "badly", period? Dance is such a subjective thing. My mom was a wise woman. She always told me to never make fun of the way someone moved or the way someone laughed. It is their personal expression. We should not stiffel another's right to express!! Sure, there are origins of all dance...but remember where it came from. The earliest forms of dance were probably hopping around a fire while beating two sticks together!! To tell someone that they don't have a right to squiggle thier glowstick in the air would be pretty judgemental, especially if I expected the right to dance the way I want! I am not saying that you have to LIKE every move or the way they flow or "essentialy seizure" (the way you put it). What I am saying is that they are going to be there, regardless of the history lesson on liquid or any other dance form. To say they don't belong because of the way they dance, would be awefully close to what the white haired politicians say about "Ravers"!
With that said, why can't we find a place for them so that people like you don't have to deal with them taking up your dancing space and your right to not be hit in the face by a flying glowstick? Any Good suggestions?!

[BlackDragonTjr]

It's been about 3-4 years since anyone good has done anything remotely good with glowsticking. Most of the people who use them now don't go out enough or practice enough with what they're doing to be anything halfway decent.

The problem with alot of people nowadays is that they don't want to practice anything, they just want to 'be' the expert immediatly.

[Alexis]

I think it is unfair to say whether a person can or can't "do it right". If it feels good to them, that is all that should matter - How many people dance "badly", period? Dance is such a subjective thing.

That's what people who suck at dancing say.

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[ras_cee]

NO!!! to glow bugs or whatever u call yourself!!!

[ras_cee]

http://members.aol.com/mf42159/glowbugs.jpg

GLOW BUGS!!!

[Elektronkind]

doing glow stick poi on the dance floor has got stop.

at the IM show a few weeks back, some kid was swinging his sticks around on the front room floor after my set and knocked the contacts out of another dancer's eyes.

didn't even apologize, just kept on spinning.

/dale

[BuzzCat]

That is exactly why a seperate section where that stuff was allowed, and only allowed there, would be a good idea.

[BlackDragonTjr]

A while back Nation didn't allow this shite... don't know why they allowed again :(
I am getting a little sick of these fools just starting to swing their shite when people are still in close proximity to them. One kid hit me once and I asked to see his sticks, he handed them to me and I proceeded to throw them across the main room to the other side. He got huffy... but then I proceeded to show him the welt that developed because of his inconsideration of other people... then he kinda looked sad and walked away.
doing glow stick poi on the dance floor has got stop.

at the IM show a few weeks back, some kid was swinging his sticks around on the front room floor after my set and knocked the contacts out of another dancer's eyes.

didn't even apologize, just kept on spinning.

/dale

[0oLeimomio0]

That is a good idea!!! It would be safer for everyone! :wink:

[spiggums]

when I see that shit on my dancefloor... I leave the booth and yell at them to stop...

however... I think that Ronda's idea is brilliant... just so long as I can make a few adjustments...

should Nation decide this to be a good idea, I just need to know where it's going be so I can install the "shower nozzles"...

[A.B]

I agree. Unless one does not know how twirl good, they should in others proximity. It is ok if the crowd gives them some space in the middle or a circle.

[A.B]

but the cats that can spin the sticks, more power to you

[ao125]

One of these days I'm going to go "Irréversible Style" on the glowchuckers.

[MaryAnarchy]

i have suggested having poi people on stage at buzz a few times.

[spiggums]

One of these days I'm going to go "Irréversible Style" on the glowchuckers.
:haha:

oh fuck man... I'm dying over here... that's so fucked up it's great

[L00p33]

[QUOTE=WanderingStarz]That's what people who suck at dancing say.

:spit::j


:shady: ur right. I can't dance. I actually come out just to irritate those around me with my random flinggin and nervous fidgitting. Sometimes I just hump the guy standing next to me...this usually being my husband. I sure am happy when people on the dance floor teach me what to do and give me helpful suggestions or else I could really hurt someone. I would appreciate any advice I could get!





jk also :shady:

[LordOfThePance]

when I see that shit on my dancefloor... I leave the booth and yell at them to stop...

however... I think that Ronda's idea is brilliant... just so long as I can make a few adjustments...

should Nation decide this to be a good idea, I just need to know where it's going be so I can install the "shower nozzles"...
Hehe, "your dancefloor." While you're at it, grab a mop...that floor gets slippery! Damn alcohol abusers! *shakes fist*

[L00p33]

Hey the shower head idea was excellent! Just let me know where they are so I can dance on the other side of the dancefloor!

The middle of the circle or floor idea? BAD! That is the problem right now!! (sheesh)

I am all for keeping their rights, but at the same time, if we can't do this without fear of being hit I think a retaliation is in order. I think we should get together a group of "glowbug ninja dancers". :idea: I suggest that we take some lead weights, maybe some large ocean fishing weights with holes built right in and make our own "glowsticks on a rope". The ninja part comes in when we paint the weights black and use black or dark rope to join them. :shady: When the glowbugs get close to our heads we will just whip out our right to dance as well!

See? I am all about "keeping it real" and the "right to dance". It definately is a form of expression...but one must remember that the dancers have rights too! PLUR!!

[Scoobie-Snax]

Hey the shower head idea was excellent! Just let me know where they are so I can dance on the other side of the dancefloor!

The middle of the circle or floor idea? BAD! That is the problem right now!! (sheesh)

I am all for keeping their rights, but at the same time, if we can't do this without fear of being hit I think a retaliation is in order. I think we should get together a group of "glowbug ninja dancers". :idea: I suggest that we take some lead weights, maybe some large ocean fishing weights with holes built right in and make our own "glowsticks on a rope". The ninja part comes in when we paint the weights black and use black or dark rope to join them. :shady: When the glowbugs get close to our heads we will just whip out our right to dance as well!

See? I am all about "keeping it real" and the "right to dance". It definately is a form of expression...but one must remember that the dancers have rights too! PLUR!!

Don't worry about the glowstick haters here.......fuck um. Dance and have fun the way you want to, not the way people here think you should have fun or dance. Or don't use them on strings (apparently there is much hatered for the glowstringers) try doing it freehand so you do not have to worry about smacking someone in the head with a glowstick.

[Elektronkind]

Don't worry about the glowstick haters here.......fuck um. Dance and have fun the way you want to, not the way people here think you should have fun or dance. Or don't use them on strings (apparently there is much hatered for the glowstringers) try doing it freehand so you do not have to worry about smacking someone in the head with a glowstick.

I look at it as a safety issue, man. And I'm no poi hater, either. I'm one of the people who have spun fire at Nation in the past, after all.

It's the jackassess who are unskilled and inconsiderate that we're hating on, and unfortunately, lately, it seems that glowstickers at Nation posess both those traits and display them fairly wontonly.

I know you're probably the most skilled spinner there is. I'm sure that if someone walks into your arc or you hit someone with it, you make an effort to apologize and make sure you didn't bust their eye out. Certainly, you spin not in the middle of the dance floor, but try to find a place where there's fewer people.

But unfortunately, too many times too many unskilled, inconsiderate glow stickers have come close to or have hit too many people. Not to mention when one wants to fire up in the middle of the floor and now I have to pull myself out of my trance and move for your ass.

Don't be an asshat about it. You're doing the space invading, afterall.

/dale

[pLhEmp]

*gets on Nordic Track picks up glowsticks and makes pretend ball* (Just 4 U)
does same only nekid in a dark room to proove a point.

[Scoobie-Snax]

I look at it as a safety issue, man. And I'm no poi hater, either. I'm one of the people who have spun fire at Nation in the past, after all.

It's the jackassess who are unskilled and inconsiderate that we're hating on, and unfortunately, lately, it seems that glowstickers at Nation posess both those traits and display them fairly wontonly.

I know you're probably the most skilled spinner there is. I'm sure that if someone walks into your arc or you hit someone with it, you make an effort to apologize and make sure you didn't bust their eye out. Certainly, you spin not in the middle of the dance floor, but try to find a place where there's fewer people.

But unfortunately, too many times too many unskilled, inconsiderate glow stickers have come close to or have hit too many people. Not to mention when one wants to fire up in the middle of the floor and now I have to pull myself out of my trance and move for your ass.

Don't be an asshat about it. You're doing the space invading, afterall.

/dale

I do not use them on strings for the very reason everyone is complaining about. Personally to me I think it is very boring to just stand there and swing them around in circles. I use them freehand and lock them between my fingers so that they do not go anywhere/hit anyone. Although the way I do it does not take up lots of space.... I still make sure I go to one of the back corners.....unless there is room on the dance floor.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

It's the jackassess who are unskilled and inconsiderate that we're hating on, and unfortunately, lately, it seems that glowstickers at Nation posess both those traits and display them fairly wontonly.

I don't think that it's necessarily inconsiderate people who use the glowsticks on strings and whatnot so much as it's ignorant people. And while ignorance is not an excuse, I can understand someone not pausing in their own fun long enough to realize how they are effecting other people.

For real, and don't hate on someone who can't dance just cause they can't dance..... we're all here to have fun. If someone wants to do the nordictrak dance then party on. Of course, this is coming from the girl who can only do the kandi kid hop....

:ontome:

[Scoobie-Snax]

I don't think that it's necessarily inconsiderate people who use the glowsticks on strings and whatnot so much as it's ignorant people. And while ignorance is not an excuse, I can understand someone not pausing in their own fun long enough to realize how they are effecting other people.

For real, and don't hate on someone who can't dance just cause they can't dance..... we're all here to have fun. If someone wants to do the nordictrak dance then party on. Of course, this is coming from the girl who can only do the kandi kid hop....

:ontome:

:werd: We are all there to have fun plain and simple. I wonder though if some of these comments discourage noobs from dancing or even trying to dance....due to the fact that some people insist it must be done a certain way.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

I honestly believe that if I were brand new and read some of the comments on this message board I'd be discouraged to even try to learn how to glowstick, dance, and everything inbetween.

Incase people didn't get the memo: We all sucked at one point or another.

Me? I still suck, but it's something I learned to love and I live with. Now if only I could learn how to make my feet work so I could twirl on the dancefloor :delirious:

[MaryAnarchy]

yeah, elitism about dancing and glowsticking and ANYTHING isn't any good for the scene.

i've made fun of girls gone wild type dancing before, i'll admit. but i never make fun of someone flailing about.

sadly, i haven't danced at the rave in a long time. since like hernan cattaneo. i've been too busy doing other things....it's kinda sad.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

Dance with me, Mary.


:badkitty:

[MaryAnarchy]

this sounds pathetic, but i think i forget how.

i used to be very good.

now i feel akward and flailing when i dance.

[Scoobie-Snax]

this sounds pathetic, but i think i forget how.

i used to be very good.

now i feel akward and flailing when i dance.

"Step to the left step to the right....." :monopeeleft:

[spiggums]

due to the fact that some people insist it must be done a certain way.
I certainly don't think people have to dance a certain way...

but I will say this... at the very least, I expect people to be able to find a beat...

I mean, if it's 125-135BPM house music... how can you NOT find the beat?

[MaryAnarchy]

re: people you think suck at dancing...


lead by example. help them feel the beat.

[spiggums]

heh.. back when I used to dj for the goth/industrial scene (few groups of people have less rhythm collectively than goths) I would sit from the booth and watch people dance to four different beats.. and not one of them would actually have anything to do with the song being played... I'd want to run out there, grab them and tap the beat out with my hand for them... instead I tried to be a beacon for them by bouncing in time to the music in the booth :)

[L00p33]

*Tries to finda a beat, gives up, tries to find her feet. :hypnotized: ...passes out trying.* Ed, it is sad but true...some people are just beat challenged. I gotta wonder how they procreate actually!


pssst!! Just want to mention the fact that dancing your own way was kinda part of my point! No one needs lessons...just do it! I give anyone props that are out to feel the music and move. :cheer:

I can't stand people that think we are there for a dance contest we aren't getting paid to dance! I have fallen on my ass more times than I would like to count - not really my point. We even have a few regulars that have tried to give me "pointers" - I know they are out there :angryasian: - premas!

All I'm saying is why can't we find a spot? Any spot really. Let um glow up the place...just not while they are smacking me in the head!!!gggggggggrrrrr

[MaryAnarchy]

goths do the zombie shuffle.

[L00p33]

.. instead I tried to be a beacon for them by bouncing in time to the music in the booth :)

lmAO!! yOU are tOO FuNNy!! :bow: You were a "bouncing big brother"!!

[spiggums]

goths do the zombie shuffle.
my two favorite goth dances are the "changing the lightbulb" and of course the ever popular "dropped a penny, found a penny" dance

[badkitty3804]

Goths DO have a certain entertainment value to them :shrug:

[MaryAnarchy]

i dont' know these goth dance manouvres of which you speak.

you must demonstrate them for me sometime.

[Scoobie-Snax]

I certainly don't think people have to dance a certain way...

but I will say this... at the very least, I expect people to be able to find a beat...

I mean, if it's 125-135BPM house music... how can you NOT find the beat?

I was not refering to you. But you gotta teach me that boucing up and down to the beat. It sound like you have it down perfect.

[spiggums]

i dont' know these goth dance manouvres of which you speak.

you must demonstrate them for me sometime.
next time you see me... just ask :)

[spiggums]

I was not refering to you. But you gotta teach me that boucing up and down to the beat. It sound like you have it down perfect.
no no... I knew you weren't... I was just adding my own spin on the line of thought :)

[badkitty3804]

The gay bounce is the hotness.:badkitty:

It makes me think naughty thoughts. :yummy:

[i licked JOEYd]

I am the best dancer in the world and everyone who does not dance as good as me sucks and does not deserve to be on the dancefloor.

:respekt:

[MaryAnarchy]

you know, i didn't see you dance until last june at alias. i dragged you out on the dancefloor

ihop sucks ass. they didn't have ice cream, and a bunch of other stuff.

[Scoobie-Snax]

I am the best dancer in the world and everyone who does not dance as good as me sucks and does not deserve to be on the dancefloor.

:respekt:

*hangs head and walks off the dancefloor* :crying:

[psion's gate]

I actually really miss people dancing with glowsticks. People used really do that shit up crazy. I've seen a few recently do it, but they look like idiots cause they're not really dancing with them in any interesting way.
On the original tip though, I'm all about random club kids getting knocked out by glowsticks. Sounds like fun!

[ao125]

Thatz kinda funny, I'm all about random glowstick kids getting knocked out by other party kids. Now THAT sounds like fun!

[MaryAnarchy]

I've seen a few recently do it, but they look like idiots cause they're not really dancing with them in any interesting way.


this is the most fucking retarded comment ever.

you must be the best glowsticker in the world, in order to say that kinda shit about someone else.

[Shyboi888]

i think glowsticking should be allowed anywhere on the dance floor as long as they know what they are doing. If you ever try it, its fun as anything.

[DeAtHmOnGeR bEaR]

Bah. Again with the "people can only dance as long as they know what they're doing" comment...

People can dance if they want to dance - it shouldn't matter if they're good or bad. We're all here to have fun.

[Qubit]

I think people should be able to dance however they want to try and dance. I also think people should be considerate to other people. : )

[Busy Child]

i dont think it really matters except i like the idea of poi dancers on stage.

Though i dont really like the flaming comments on ppl who cant dance. Thats just bad for this board cuz at one point, everyone had their period of t2h suck on the dance floor. . . .some just stay there longer than others.

[EZskillz]

There are the haves:breakdance: and the have nots:wedgie:.. class warfare in the jungle. Some people can dance well and others not at all.:kapluto: The:falatic: road to becoming a have isn't all that easy and in my inhumble opinion the road should not have to be at home in a front of a freakin mirror for months before 'others' deem you good enough to dance with them! It takes some guts to learn in front of so many sick buzz dancers.. and that shouldn't be hated on. If a few people get hurt...thats the breaks, its not on purpose and dance injuries CAN:wheelchair: happen. NEXT you'll be asking us to stop dancing so fast or with such breadth of range because a good portion of learners have jumpkicked one too many in the jaw:angryasian:.. Face it..You are good at dancing, but to do what you do you must let others try.

As for hating on glowsticking..ain't that the cheapest shot? There isn't anything wrong with glowsticking..in fact it seems to make crappy dancing look a bit more fun at the least:smileyparty:. Glowsticking has been slowly phased out by the clubs so they can appeal to less ravey clientele:loot:. Couple that with fewer outdoor gatherings and the glowstick is back to being a novelty. Personally..I dread seeing the rave nature of the music pass into armanni and wallet land. The more glowstickers and the more gutsy dancers the better!!!:shadyfu:

[LordOfThePance]

There are the haves:breakdance: and the have nots:wedgie:.. class warfare in the jungle. Some people can dance well and others not at all.:kapluto: The:falatic: road to becoming a have isn't all that easy and in my inhumble opinion the road should not have to be at home in a front of a freakin mirror for months before 'others' deem you good enough to dance with them! It takes some guts to learn in front of so many sick buzz dancers.. and that shouldn't be hated on. If a few people get hurt...thats the breaks, its not on purpose and dance injuries CAN:wheelchair: happen. NEXT you'll be asking us to stop dancing so fast or with such breadth of range because a good portion of learners have jumpkicked one too many in the jaw:angryasian:.. Face it..You are good at dancing, but to do what you do you must let others try.

As for hating on glowsticking..ain't that the cheapest shot? There isn't anything wrong with glowsticking..in fact it seems to make crappy dancing look a bit more fun at the least:smileyparty:. Glowsticking has been slowly phased out by the clubs so they can appeal to less ravey clientele:loot:. Couple that with fewer outdoor gatherings and the glowstick is back to being a novelty. Personally..I dread seeing the rave nature of the music pass into armanni and wallet land. The more glowstickers and the more gutsy dancers the better!!!:shadyfu:
:werd:

[Nquire]

My problem is 99% of people with glowsticks either on their hands or on the ends of strings is they suck. Poi is an actual technical dance and has specific moves and foundation. When I see a good Poi dancer im like woah nice. Buts its very rare. Most people just twirls them. Some jus use them like nachaku which is fine too but not as flowing as poi IMO.

GLowsticks on your hands..just doing the nordic trac with your feet and making a pretend ball in the air in front of you with glowsticks tucked between your fingers does not look good.

Liquid is also a technical dance that can be studied taught and practised like any other dance.

very very very very rarely do I see someone who has obviously been studying liquid for a few months or years and actually can bust out complicated transitions and forms.

SO Basically I wouldnt mind either type of glowstick dancers if they could actually dance. But since most cant..it just becomes a huge irritation with them taking up space with what is essentialy seizures.SO what if they suck. When you first started to dance you sucked too. Not everyone that steps onto the dancefloor is a pro. And its comments like that make someone not want to. If you dont like, just dont look. Its that simple!

[Lynchx]

BOOOOO let the folks dance FREE glowstix or not!!!!!!!!!!!!! :plur:

[tranceaddict420]

I like to see talented people give lightshows. How are people going to practice this if they cant express themselves at the club. Glow sticks are just part of the rave scene. If you have a problem with someone hitting you TELL them. They might not know they are imposing on your good time. Just my 2cents.
:sadblue:

[fracta1001]

if you suck, somebody should tell you lol

[fracta1001]

btw, how do ppl feel about ppl giving lightshows to blatantly "out of it" people?

[bboyneko]

well see in breakdancing, a set or run on the cypher lasts all of 1 minute or so..then they get up and leave..so its not a huge hassle. When a bad poi dancer goes out they typically stay for like 10-15 minutes at a time, sometimes longer.

[badkitty3804]

btw, how do ppl feel about ppl giving lightshows to blatantly "out of it" people?
This doesn't need to be covered on the message board.

[BlackDragonTjr]

How can they practice it? Like... practice is usually done at home dude. Not at the main event (I.E. The Party/Club/Rave whatever)
I like to see talented people give lightshows. How are people going to practice this if they cant express themselves at the club. Glow sticks are just part of the rave scene. If you have a problem with someone hitting you TELL them. They might not know they are imposing on your good time. Just my 2cents.
:sadblue:

[badkitty3804]

They should practice at home doing fire poi. Invite a bunch of friends over to stand very close to them while they attempt this. If they get burned, they have the full right to beat the shit out of them. That way, they learn not to hit people with the stuff at the end of the strings.

[Scoobie-Snax]

They should practice at home doing fire poi. Invite a bunch of friends over to stand very close to them while they attempt this. If they get burned, they have the full right to beat the shit out of them. That way, they learn not to hit people with the stuff at the end of the strings.


Or what about very sharp knives? Or why don't we put a sign in front of Nation that says "If you do glowstick poi and hit someone be prepared for a beating."

[brkbt junglegrl]

hellmuthafuckin no..if u like glowsticks and cute light up things then i suggest investing in a strobe light and staying in ur room.

[Yakko Red]

They should practice at home doing fire poi. Invite a bunch of friends over to stand very close to them while they attempt this. If they get burned, they have the full right to beat the shit out of them. That way, they learn not to hit people with the stuff at the end of the strings.


hellmuthafuckin no..if u like glowsticks and cute light up things then i suggest investing in a strobe light and staying in ur room.

BRILLIANT!!!!!!

[Sanctifyd]

Everybody is sayin the same things over and over...

"If you can't dance... stay off the dance floor"
"If you can't glowstick and look like you're not havin a seizure, leave the glowsticks at home."

"Everybody sucked at one point. Everybody has to start somewhere."

same things over and over...

I don't disagree that glowstickers with 4 foot strings should have their own area for the safety of other people on the floor but I think it's pretty rediculous that people would tell them to leave the sticks at home completely cause they have no idea what they're doing.

Best way to learn any style of dance, whether it be liquid or breakdancin or hip hop or whatever, is by watching and trying things while they're fresh in your mind. Takin the risk of looking like a fool in order to learn new things. Nobody knows how to freestyle dance to the beat when they first start. You've gotta learn the basics by watching and doing before you can learn to freestyle and flow with the music.

Point is... if it really bothers you that someone is trying something they just saw someone else do and they look like a fool... turn your back to em. Doesn't take much effort to spin 180 degrees.

But yeah... give the glowstickers their own area before they blind somebody.

[E:go]

Hi, my name is David, and I play with glowsticks.

Threads like this really piss me off, people. Too many people on here are so worried about what other people are doing at the club. What happened to when Nation used to be a place where people could just go out, be happy, and express themselves? This is a HUGE part of the reason why I go to Buzz (or Cubik, or whatever the hell you want to call it!) once a month now instead of every week. There are too many elitist PRICKS out there now. Peace, love, unity, RESPECT! I realize that the idea of plur has fallen off the map in recent years, but some of you should really step back and remember the roots of this club.

When I started going back in the days of the Capitol Ballroom, I didn't know a damn thing about dancing. I was happy to go out, enjoy the music, and jump back and forth pretending to be on a nordic track. When I saw my first person dancing with glowsticks, I thought it was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen, so I decided to try it. Quite a few years later now, I'm still at the club with glowsticks every time I go. I'd like to think that by now I no longer "suck" but there are still things that I see that I think are cool, so I want to try them when I see them, and I may drop my sticks from time to time. News flash: IT HAPPENS!

I still cringe at a lot of the newbies with the glowsticks, the people who try to borrow them and then just wave them around aimlessly, and I even joke about it with my friends. Should those people not be allowed to have fun because they're not very good, or even an eyesore? NO. Let these kids have their fun. Not everyone likes to get up on a girl or a guy and grind the whole night. I laugh a lot more at the people doing that when I see it at the club than I do the people who have no clue with glowsticks. I hate to tell you, but it's not just the people with glowsticks who don't know what they're doing in terms of dancing these days. I love seeing people who really know how to dance, but those people are few and far between any more when it comes to Nation.

As to the people with the glowsticks on strings, just give them some room. They take up just as much room as all of the cute little breakdancers in the place. I don't personally use strings because I don't know what I'm doing with them. I'd like to think that if I ever really decide to learn that people will be patient with me while I'm trying to get better. And by the way, I have a nice 8 foot ceiling in my condo, so it's pretty hard to practice with long strings while I'm at home.

I don't give a damn if people don't want to show the peace, love, or unity any more, but the thing that can't be given up is the respect! If you don't like what someone is doing, either move or talk to that person about it. If someone accidentally hits you with a glowstick (or elbows you or kicks you or bumps into you) try saying "excuse me" for a change. Too many times people just give someone a dirty look instead of talking things out. What does that accomplish? I've found that "excuse me" is generally followed by a "sorry" or a "my bad." If that doesn't work, guess what...Nation is a big club. You can always move a few feet farther away from that person so as to be out of the way of flying projectiles.

I've run out of things to bitch about for the moment, so I'll just end by reminding everyone that we're all out there to have fun. That's the point of going to a place like Nation. I may have fun with glowsticks, someone else will have fun breakdancing, other people will have fun grinding, and still others will have fun just standing there and bobbing their head. Be accepting of differences. Don't hate. Remember the roots.

With respect,
E:go

[badkitty3804]

People are allowed to have opinions. Don't take it so personally if someone dislikes the use of glowsticks in the club. I dont really give a shit if someone likes playing with glowsticks, but when I have to deal with standing shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of sweaty ravers because someone thinks they deserve more room on the dancefloor because they think that glowsticks on strings are fun...wtf.

You shouldn't be able to put the damn things on strings when you're in a crowded space. It's disrespectful to the other people in the room that would like to have a spot on the dance floor. Someone with strings takes about 4+ spots off the dance floor, so unless it's a slow night...it shouldn't be allowed. Plain and simple. That's not even getting into the retards that go around whipping those things around with no conern about the people in the areas around them....and if I get hit by one of those things, I won't hesitate to take the things and toss them in the nearest trashcan. It's not about plur, it's about being considerate of other party goers.

[brkbt junglegrl]

BRILLIANT!!!!!!


:affection:

[BuzzCat]

You've failed David, go home.

It's not about plur, it's about being considerate of other party goers.


exactly.

[Scoobie-Snax]

I love them.....I use them.......complain all you want.......I will not get rid of or stop using them.

[BuzzCat]

*snatches glowsticks and runs*

Muahahahahahhahahaa!

[bboyneko]

http://brawl-hall.com/gallery/data/media/5/dancenerd.jpg

[Scoobie-Snax]

Oh no people are making fun of me on the Internet :crying: I guess I will never post again and just go cry to myself.

*runs away from computer crying*

Or maybe I will flame back and add a couple of inches to my Internet penis.

*thinks*

[E:go]

Yup, it's about being considerate of other party goers. So why is it that no one seems to be considerate of these other party goers who are doing their own thing, just with glowsticks? There is a huge double standard here saying that people suck with glowsticks and take up too much space. I'll say that people suck at dancing in general these days and take up too much space. There are only about a handful of "good" people who can really dance. I'm not going to go tell the rest of them that they suck, though.

[ramz]

You've failed David, go home.



exactly.

[BuzzCat]

Yup, it's about being considerate of other party goers. So why is it that no one seems to be considerate of these other party goers who are doing their own thing, just with glowsticks? There is a huge double standard here saying that people suck with glowsticks and take up too much space. I'll say that people suck at dancing in general these days and take up too much space. There are only about a handful of "good" people who can really dance. I'm not going to go tell the rest of them that they suck, though.


:slap:

I said go home!

[Liftedtrance]

I do glowsticks on strings.
but I def see how they can take up more room that one person deserves
at the club.
sorry, but you're not at home. the club isn't your property, so you
have to be respectful of others ppl's space.

also, they hurt like hell when you get hit with them.
that's why I agree with the idea of marking off a separate place
for us to do these things in the club.

[E:go]

:slap:

I said go home!

The funny thing is, I am home right now. Why don't you do some work!?! :doh:

[L00p33]

I hate when people take things and run with them, making them what they AREN'T!! Anyone for a red fish? *heh* - I like the gummy Swedish kind - you know, NOT the ones that forgot about the original post? The kind of fish that like to dance, respect other fish while doing so. The fish that give others room to dance but don't smack people in the head repeatedly? I appreciate the fish that get out and move to the music, however that music makes them feel. I dig the fish that notices when everyone in the tank can't move and so they put their glowsticks-on-a-string in their pockets. BUT most importantly, I really respect the event owners making room and a place for the glow-bug-fish to do their thing in peace. - Damn red fish forgetting the issues!! Damn Red Fish! The red fish confuses what is in his/her head with reality...maybe lay off the aquatic mushrooms??!!

[BuzzCat]

that's why I agree with the idea of marking off a separate place

:kapluto:

[BuzzCat]

The funny thing is, I am home right now. Why don't you do some work!?! :doh:


HOME DAVID!

hehe.

[E:go]

Space for people with sticks on strings...sounds great.

[E:go]

Oh yeah...mmmmmm, Swedish fish! I want some!

[spiggums]

Yup, it's about being considerate of other party goers. So why is it that no one seems to be considerate of these other party goers who are doing their own thing, just with glowsticks? There is a huge double standard here saying that people suck with glowsticks and take up too much space. I'll say that people suck at dancing in general these days and take up too much space. There are only about a handful of "good" people who can really dance. I'm not going to go tell the rest of them that they suck, though.
glowsticks are fine... they instantly make a person look like an idiot, but, hey, that's your prerogative...
glowsticks on strings in an outdoor venue with lots of space are fine
glowsticks on strings in a crowded indoor club is NOT fine...
and to take it a step further, glowsticks on strings at Cubik in the Rubik Room is asking for me to smack you upside the head.

if you can't understand how that's more disrespectful to the general populace at a club well then you're a lost cause and I'm curious as to how you manage to function on a daily basis.

You know, this makes me wonder if I could get away with putting something in contracts that says "will not play if there's anyone swinging glowsticks on strings in room"

[L00p33]

glowsticks are fine... they instantly make a person look like an idiot, but, hey, that's your prerogative...
glowsticks on strings in an outdoor venue with lots of space are fine
glowsticks on strings in a crowded indoor club is NOT fine...
and to take it a step further, glowsticks on strings at Cubik in the Rubik Room is asking for me to smack you upside the head.

if you can't understand how that's more disrespectful to the general populace at a club well then you're a lost cause and I'm curious as to how you manage to function on a daily basis.

You know, this makes me wonder if I could get away with putting something in contracts that says "will not play if there's anyone swinging glowsticks on strings in room"


MWhahhahaha.....that is some funny shit!! I figure if Simon can send out his list of requests before spinning a set...you could definately include this in yours!!! :afterbuzz:

[Simon]

My Rider? I may have to include something about Glowsticks in there too cause I deffinatley feel Ed on this issue!

[LordOfThePance]

:wave: I would like to reserve a space in the non-smoking/pro-glowsticking area :-) :bravo:

[ao125]

I would like to reserve a space in the pro-heavy-smoking/extremely-anti-glowsticking area.

[badkitty3804]

I'm more-so for a clause that states you can maim the glow-chuckers. That way it's like, good music AND a show. :shrug:

[ao125]

I'd pay to do that...

[KiKiXOXO]

Don't hate on the glowstickers - as long as they aren't beating you over the head with them!!

[Scoobie-Snax]

Dammit I just want a place to have fun! I def fell the love in this thread.

[badkitty3804]

I'd pay to do that...
I'd pay to SEE that.

[E:go]

:wave: I would like to reserve a space in the non-smoking/pro-glowsticking area :-) :bravo:

That'd be beautiful! Won't happen, but it'd be nice.

[badkitty3804]

http://www.i-mockery.com/antirave/meltdown.asp

[ifunowhatimean]

I think that glo stickers should be able to express themselves if they like although they should be responsible enough to know when to say when and be respectful of others around them. I also like the idea on using the stage for glo stickers, it would be kinda like infected mushrooms show, ok not that cool although a good idea.

[KiKiXOXO]

I like that idea!! If you know what I mean.
People are always asking me to do glowstick shows for them when I just want to dance...

[Muramasa]

I don't really mind people doing their thing, so long as I'm not getting hurt or annoyed.


What I think is funny, is remembering some of the people in this thread who are talking all of this shit partying with their own glowsticks at parties in the past. I guess now that some of you are such awesome dancers (insert *snicker*), you've matured past that sort of thing, right?

HA.

[Shyboi888]

glowsticks are safe...people just need to learn how to use em...

[robotnation]

it doesn't matter how it looks to other people, it matters how it feels to the person doing it, and if it feels fun and right, then its good...

although i DO dorta get annoyed when you have to make a huge freakin circle for the kids with glowsticks...

[ms boombatti]

although i DO dorta get annoyed when you have to make a huge freakin circle for the kids with glowsticks...

i get sort of annoyed when a huge circle erupts for breakers when there's zero room to dance as it is.

:shrug:

[spiggums]

i get sort of annoyed when a huge circle erupts for breakers when there's zero room to dance as it is.

:shrug:

exactly... people need to understand that part of respecting their fellow club goers is to know when such behavior is appropriate... and part of that is saying "well... how packed is the club tonight? too packed for me to take up more than my fair share of space so I'll just dance calmly"

[ms boombatti]

:hifive:

spiggums understands my anger.

we shake our fists and run into these circles.. well. okay. just him.

[E:go]

You know what annoys me, is the skanky whores that get up on the boxes in the main room and start grinding on each other... That in itself wouldn't bother me too much, because it's pretty fun watching chics have sex with each other, but I really don't like when the dumbass guys get up there with them because they think they're cool.

The big circles of breakers and glowing people don't bother me so much because there usually aren't enough people at Buzz (errr, Cubik) any more to make it a problem.

[ms boombatti]

You know what annoys me, is the skanky whores that get up on the boxes in the main room and start grinding on each other... That in itself wouldn't bother me too much, because it's pretty fun watching chics have sex with each other, but I really don't like when the dumbass guys get up there with them because they think they're cool.

the skanky hos don't bother me as much bc they're on top of a speaker/box. i don't dance on the box, so they're not in my way.


The big circles of breakers and glowing people don't bother me so much because there usually aren't enough people at Buzz (errr, Cubik) any more to make it a problem.

this does become a problem on some nights though, and thats where my irritation comes from. i wish they could stop and say, "gee, there are a million people on this dance floor. maybe doing windmills and taking up a quarter of the floor isn't the best idea". i'm all for aggressive dancing when necessary (ie: cigarettes being plunged into my arms by drunky mcdrunkass..), but i'll stay in my 3'x3' space. also, if i do bump into someone when there is room for me to move somewhere else, i'll usually apologize... unless they're drunky mcdrunkass.

[jibboo]

i don't dance on the box...

Is that what they're callin it these days?

[MaryAnarchy]

www.homeofpoi.com

[ms boombatti]

Is that what they're callin it these days?

is what what they're calling it these days?

it's a box. not a speaker.

i think you fail at funny.

[i licked JOEYd]

I am the best dancer in the world and everyone who does not dance as good as me sucks and does not deserve to be on the dancefloor.

:respekt:
omg, someone JUST gave me negative rep for this post!

BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I posted this 9 months ago.

wow, out of context a little.


that is too funny.

[Spanish Fly]

No glowsticks in Drum and Bass room.

for sure.

[MaryAnarchy]

photons should be allowed tho

because i say so :D

[E:go]

No glowsticks in Drum and Bass room.

for sure.

I don't know. I have used stix to dnb every once in a while. Basically it's just incredibly fast or a matter of hitting the downbeats instead of trying to keep up with every single beat. It looks cool when it's done well. Sadly, most people really suck these days.

[RAMIRO]

LAZER TAG!!!! :woot:

[MaryAnarchy]

I don't know. I have used stix to dnb every once in a while. Basically it's just incredibly fast or a matter of hitting the downbeats instead of trying to keep up with every single beat. It looks cool when it's done well. Sadly, most people really suck these days.


wow

you're cool and all, but your super snobby attitude towards other glowstickers is really rude.

i've heard you say often how everyone else sucks, and you're super good

that attitude is no good.

i have told you..if they suck so bad, kinda help them along...show them, and you refused.

i dunno

maybe i'm just sensitive today.

it just reminds me of some showoff dancer who stands around and mocks other people for trying to dance but "not good enough"...

[MaryAnarchy]

LAZER TAG!!!! :woot:


i suggested laser tag to amanda for the very first cubik. it didn't happen

*weeps*

[E:go]

wow

you're cool and all, but your super snobby attitude towards other glowstickers is really rude.

i've heard you say often how everyone else sucks, and you're super good

that attitude is no good.

i have told you..if they suck so bad, kinda help them along...show them, and you refused.

i dunno

maybe i'm just sensitive today.

it just reminds me of some showoff dancer who stands around and mocks other people for trying to dance but "not good enough"...

Hehe, speaking of standing around and mocking other people...

Nah, j/k.

I help new people out all the time, especially when someone is just trying to get started or they want to learn something new. There's only so much that you can really do to show someone how to do something new, though, and I do think that a really nice place to practice new things is a dark corner somewhere or at home...that's what I did. Either that, or mess around somewhere that all of your friends can laugh at you when you mess up. That's what I do at Bridges every Wednesday. ;)

[RAMIRO]

:crying:

[MaryAnarchy]

Hehe, speaking of standing around and mocking other people...

Nah, j/k.

I help new people out all the time, especially when someone is just trying to get started or they want to learn something new. There's only so much that you can really do to show someone how to do something new, though, and I do think that a really nice place to practice new things is a dark corner somewhere or at home...that's what I did. Either that, or mess around somewhere that all of your friends can laugh at you when you mess up. That's what I do at Bridges every Wednesday. ;)


i mock hoes.

openly.

:)


i worded my post kinda harshly, thanks for not getting angry at me :)

[E:go]

I couldn't get angry at you. You're too fun/crazy.

We'll have to go mock hoes together at some point. :)

[MaryAnarchy]

hoes
take off your clothes
hoes
get naked