Opinion, What is better for a DJ?

[badkitty3804]

So I've had this argument with friends over and over and over again. Which is 'better for a DJ?".

Focusing on one specific genre, and becoming masterful at it.

Or

Learning and becoming great at one Genre, but learning others at the same time. The "A jack of all trades, but a master of none" idea comes in here.

So, is it better to be a master of one, or have the range in music selection and the large opening in possibilities for your set?

(and by genre, I mean EDM and Non-EDM.)

[badkitty3804]

If this makes any sense.

I just know a lot of DJ's that Spin something and don't even think about other genres (when they spin and even in thier general music listening).

Then I know a lot of DJ's that are complete audiophiles and incorporate all kinds of music in their sets and in their normal listening.

:shrug:

[hue-e]

I think you should get good at djing in general. Most stick with one genre to start off. Some move on to other things, others stay where they are at. I, for example, have been spinning dnb for 3.5 years and am just now taking a real liking to breakbeats... you will probably see me doing a set or two in the clubs in the not so distant future.

as far as how I voted? keep em guessing, it seems to get a rise out of the audience.

[punkassmark]

Originally posted by badkitty3804
[B] The "A jack of all trades, but a master of none" idea comes in here.

Nice....

I mainly spin DnB... but I collect ALL sorts of records.... I've always bought house every now & then... and recently in the past year techno, due to my firends Jamie & Bryan constantly playing the good shit for me... I play almost everything at home... eventually I'll have enough for a good diverse set.... but I'm still stickin' to DnB when i play out until i get more records.....

[Unfeign]

I started out with what i liked first off: trance. that moved me into progressive, some house, and eventually breaks, and even a small amount of techno. in the end, i buy what i like and play what i like, and dont worry too much about the label other people give it. true, i dont own any DnB even though i like it, i have a style to stick to, but i definitely dont limit myself to just one major genre. no one should.

[badkitty3804]

How about non EDM stuff though. :shrug:

[Wickity]

I pretty well play breaks, and that's it... But I think it's important to listen and be influenced by things outside of "your genre". I listen to all kinds of things, not even just music for inspiration.
I have a couple of old tracks that I'm just waiting for the right moment to drop, and they aren't EDM.
It's kind of a fine line, because whatever you play, it should be danceable when you're in the club, because that's what people are there for, and that's what they want to hear....

But I've heard some old pop/rap tracks dropped, and it worked great.

[Unfeign]

Originally posted by badkitty3804
How about non EDM stuff though. :shrug:


THIS is something that I don't usually like. I'm all about remixes, I like that, it gets people back to ground-zero sometimes. i spin a lot of clubs to crowds that are into popular stuff, and dont know EDM like most of us do, so remixes are great.

but non-edm? what is it with that stuff today? even deep dish will throw a straight-up white stripes track in. no beatmatch. no reason. just rock and roll in the middle of dance music. i hate it! i came here electronic dance music, not rock. my dancefloor and my mosh pit are two very different entities...

[badkitty3804]

I don't think that it should be flat out 'dropped [rock song here] with no beat matching or whatever]...But remix's of non EDM genres.

I make no sense, sorry.

For example...Cortex has a remix of eye of the tiger or a remix of the song "I'm so crazy" (Par-T-One)...These aren't ORIGINALLY EDM tracks..just remixes.

I make no sense sometimes..don't mind me.

[bbjohnson]

it dont matter if you make sense.. :hitit:



:jk: :smooch:

[badkitty3804]

:badkitty:

Too sweet Clint :affection:

[Wickity]

Oh, in that case... Hell yeah. I love remixed classics.. I have a hard time *not* overdoing it with those.
I just played a Journey song Sat night... Oooh, and Led Zeppelin.

[badkitty3804]

YAY! Someone understood me! :affection:

[n-root]

Originally posted by Wickity
Oh, in that case... Hell yeah. I love remixed classics.. I have a hard time *not* overdoing it with those.
I just played a Journey song Sat night... Oooh, and Led Zeppelin.



man I love a good remix but I heard this breakbeat Zep remix that Chris Shaw drooped on destroyer.net and damn near threw my shoe at the computer. Remixes are cool but man I couldnt stand that one! Of course I mean nothing against Chris it was just a track I couldnt stand.

[Wickity]

They are the height of cheese, but it's awesome cuz it's something new, you can groove on it, but it also let's you reminisce... The time I dropped 'Blinded By The Light' remember? Everybody in the place was singing along. It was pretty cool.

[Wickity]

Originally posted by n-root




man I love a good remix but I heard this breakbeat Zep remix that Chris Shaw drooped on destroyer.net and damn near threw my shoe at the computer. Remixes are cool but man I couldnt stand that one! Of course I mean nothing against Chris it was just a track I couldnt stand.


Wow.. :D

No, I def understand there are some crap mixes out there. I actually liked that one.. In fact I have it somewhere I think..
But anyway, a LOT of people don't like them at all..

[badkitty3804]

Originally posted by Wickity
They are the height of cheese, but it's awesome cuz it's something new, you can groove on it, but it also let's you reminisce... The time I dropped 'Blinded By The Light' remember? Everybody in the place was singing along. It was pretty cool.

I love "Blinded by the light"!

I was jamming out to that :yes:

[uberclkgtr]

Originally posted by Wickity
They are the height of cheese, but it's awesome cuz it's something new, you can groove on it, but it also let's you reminisce...

True, the remix has to be done well though. So many bootleg out there today suck.

I voted stick to a genre, but incorporate stuff from other genres. :yes:

[ardkorejunglis]

Def when you are starting out stick to one genre. If you are a dj you must love the music so I would say always stick with what you like. If your tastes change with time change what ya spin to match. I think it is important to have your own style that people can identify with as well. Produce your own stuff and spin it out!

[spiggums]

I think there's an option that's not necessarily on here...

I, for one, HATE being confined to a "this is what you spin" concept... My sets can vary from all ends of the spectrum (not counting anything drum & bass oriented)... running from EBM all the way to Trance... but somehow I'm told that even if you listen to two completely different sets by me they're still distinctively toutin that "Spiggy sound" (or something like that)

[Unfeign]

Ah yes, then...yes...i'm a big fan of the remix.

[NicotinePatches]

Thats what its all about...your own unique style.

[ggfab]

Originally posted by punkassmark


Nice....

I mainly spin DnB... but I collect ALL sorts of records.... I've always bought house every now & then... and recently in the past year techno, due to my firends Jamie & Bryan constantly playing the good shit for me... I play almost everything at home... eventually I'll have enough for a good diverse set.... but I'm still stickin' to DnB when i play out until i get more records.....

I've heard good things about your sets. Just thought I'd let you know.

:thumbsup:

[buzzboy]

Originally posted by ggfab


I've heard good things about your sets. Just thought I'd let you know.

:thumbsup:

if you like dark ominous drum and bass that kicks you in yo face...Punkassmark..is fo u yo!

[Stryda!]

Im loyal to my genre to a fault. I will spin hard dance and nothing else. I dont care about bookings or who likes what I spin. I dont want to be a superstar dj. I just want to hear some really good hard dance records and share them with other people that like my genre.

[agentorange]

I tell people that I spin prog trance, but I also include house, hard dance and techno into my sets as well. I just buy whatever sounds good.

I'm definitely a fan of the remixes as well. Just bought MV's remix of 50 cent..... :D I couldn't help it. It was cheap.

[rajdeep]

I believe everyone starts off with a particular genre and then once they get comfortable with it, they start experimenting with other genres to include in their sets. The most extreme case would be where one switches genres completely. But this is what keeps the enthusiasm for DJing still fresh and not getting bored out of one's mind! :D

[candypink]

Originally posted by Unfeign



THIS is something that I don't usually like. I'm all about remixes, I like that, it gets people back to ground-zero sometimes. i spin a lot of clubs to crowds that are into popular stuff, and dont know EDM like most of us do, so remixes are great.

but non-edm? what is it with that stuff today? even deep dish will throw a straight-up white stripes track in. no beatmatch. no reason. just rock and roll in the middle of dance music. i hate it! i came here electronic dance music, not rock. my dancefloor and my mosh pit are two very different entities...

i agree! although crystal method closing the night with hells bells was good times :raveon:

[SCHLiTZ]

I say it dosen't matter what the dj does as long as he/she keeps the dance floor rocking. You sorta need to associate your sound to one genre or another, just so people know kinda what to expect from you and build a reputation. At the same time, staying with only one genre strickly makes you run into a rut. The ability to change it up and to play what the crowd dances to. Predictability in the grand scheme is ideal to bring people in, but variation in a smaller scale is what keeps them on the floor.

[The Logic Theorist]

Spiggy pretty much said what I was going to say. I should hope that by now I've developed a style that's distinctive enough that you would know it was me. I pull from elements of all kinds of music, straight EDM, industrial, funk, hip hop, jazz, and whatever I happen to be into at the time. I play stuff people know, obscure tracks, brand new sounds, it's whatever, but it's all -me-

But then, I came from a club DJ background instead of a "Rave" DJ background.. maybe that's the difference, and with the two scenes pretty much merged at this point, I think the differences keep us musically interesting.

Come to think of it, isn't this the conept that "House" music came from in the first place? The DJs that really defined "House" played disco, pop, dance, funk, and whatever else they wanted, but with their own "House" style.

[A.J. Inx]

....you know...i had something witty to say...but I just completely forgot what it was... :shrug:


ANYWAY - Last night at Cubik I had some chick tell me that the "School girl look" would be a great GIMIC for a DJ....

Since when did good DJs need gimics??

[SCHLiTZ]

Portia Surreal???? gimic? noooooooh....

[Inflictz]

It's really all in preference to the dj and what they like and want to accomplish. For me though, I like almost all types of music and enjoy spinning just about everything. I think its good to do this to incorporate new ideas or styles and to also be well rounded in an art that takes years to master. I started off with drum n bass and house, and then started messin with hip hop alot. In the end it's really all up to you and what you want to achieve. So coming from me, I'd hafta say, spin every beat you can because experience and knowledge is the key.

(((d-_-b)))

[Mitaic]

Originally posted by hue-e
I think you should get good at djing in general. Most stick with one genre to start off. Some move on to other things, others stay where they are at.

esp very true for beginners. finantial considerations constraint how you build your record collection and ultimately affect the genres and types of mixes you are to spin when you first start out.

[Mitaic]

Originally posted by Wickity
They are the height of cheese, but it's awesome cuz it's something new, you can groove on it, but it also let's you reminisce... The time I dropped 'Blinded By The Light' remember? Everybody in the place was singing along. It was pretty cool.

that's one good thing about classic remixes... it's like medicine for non-edm people on the dancefloor. Great to get everyone in the crowd going...


then you are off spinning the stuff you really want to spin...

[trancefunk]

I voted to keep the croud guessing. I mean I have my own tracks that everyone want s to hear when I play, bu then for the rest of the 1 1/2 hours I play it all an dI do mean all. I do have tricks up mt sleve that noone esle does(old ass records that noone could ever find EVER). I am one that gets lucky ay certain tmies. But it is all about where you look. OK, just for a small sample, I tend to drop "you should be dancin" buy th BEE GEE's,
That one get the coroud in an uproar wantiong more from me cause no1 else can drop that shit like I can. And that track goes well in the middle of a nice electro breaks set. Another one that I like to spin is "you spin me" by dead or alive, the only porb with that is I have to remember to bring my own spider if I wanna play it cause it's on a 45. That is all I am gonna release about my sets. NEthing elae you wanna know your gonna have to book me to find out! *evol laugh*

[The Logic Theorist]

I have both of the tracks you named. I actually have the whole "Youthquake" LP, which has "DJ Hit that Button" I've also got "Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to Know" which has "Brand New Lover"

[spiggums]

Originally posted by logictheorist
I have both of the tracks you named. I actually have the whole "Youthquake" LP, which has "DJ Hit that Button" I've also got "Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to Know" which has "Brand New Lover"

But do you have the Sophisticated Boom Boom LP?

;)

(oh and Mad, Bad and Dangerous to Know actually has another favorite DoA track of mine: Something in My House)

[DelawareKids]

i also think remixes are a good way to keep the crowd into your set. Its nice to play both stuff they never heard before and some crowd favs

[Shawn_E]

Originally posted by bbjohnson
it dont matter if you make sense.. :hitit:



:jk: :smooch:

:stupid:

[obsol33t]

keep in mind that some subgenres of music oncorporate sounds and styling from other genres.

so why would there be a need to change speed/beat ?

[spiggums]

Originally posted by Schlitz
Portia Surreal???? gimic? noooooooh....

heh... has anyone actually heard this woman spin?

I just get the feeling that she's got to be godawful!

[The Logic Theorist]

I want to say I think I have in Texas, there was a "private party" at my usual Friday hangout and we stumbled into it. It was some topless woman for sure, she did not mix at all and played mostly hair rock. What was really bad was the booth at this particular bar is pretty close to the crowd, and you could see she was.. let's just there were some miles on that one.

[BassDrop]

I like it all, dnb is an addiction, never could kick that but am heavily influenced by breakz, electro, and somewhat of house.

[T-Sizzle]

i think:
a good dj can beat match perfectly, scratch well if you do it al all, and have a good mix of WHATEVER STYLES FLOAT YOUR BOAT!

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by n-root




man I love a good remix but I heard this breakbeat Zep remix that Chris Shaw drooped on destroyer.net and damn near threw my shoe at the computer. Remixes are cool but man I couldnt stand that one! Of course I mean nothing against Chris it was just a track I couldnt stand.

I played a led zep remix? um.. when

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by spiggums


heh... has anyone actually heard this woman spin?

I just get the feeling that she's got to be godawful!

haha.. she spins breaks, and doesn't beatmatch.. I remember a producer on nubreaks was trying to cut her slack since she charted one of his songs, but ferreal.. she's basically the definition of gimmick

[spiggums]

Originally posted by Bioteknik


haha.. she spins breaks, and doesn't beatmatch.. I remember a producer on nubreaks was trying to cut her slack since she charted one of his songs, but ferreal.. she's basically the definition of gimmick

I figured that was the case, but all the same I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt (which I never do, but I can be easily disarmed by breasts)

[stevelogik]

Produce....

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by Bioteknik


I played a led zep remix? um.. when

yes.. i had a guest come in to play after me that night, the last song i played was "Who's da badman" if ya can't tell which one that is you're deaf :smurf:

[spiggums]

Originally posted by stevelogik
Produce....

honestly... I'm tired of the "DJs should produce" line...

I'm not saying that they can't and shouldn't if they want to... but production and DJ'ing are two separate skill sets... one should not have to learn both in order to be respected for their abilities with one of the skills!

[Bioteknik]

too bad that's the way things work these days.. if a dj has say a few releases out it raises their exposure immensly.. probably helping them get some good bookings and such...

[spiggums]

Originally posted by Bioteknik
too bad that's the way things work these days.. if a dj has say a few releases out it raises their exposure immensly.. probably helping them get some good bookings and such...

and as a result there's a lot of really uninteresting tracks out there and crap DJ's playing gigs that they really shouldn't be... ;)

(but then, this would also be the case regardless of the emphasis put on DJs who produce as well)

[trancefunk]

it also makes sence the other way that producers should spin.

that sometime can be a reall strain on the ears, but there is a fun game that comes out of it.

"how many trainwrecks can you hear"

[n-root]

Originally posted by Bioteknik


I played a led zep remix? um.. when


Originally posted by Bioteknik


yes.. i had a guest come in to play after me that night, the last song i played was "Who's da badman" if ya can't tell which one that is you're deaf :smurf:

I will find it. You will see....

[deejayclutch]

So.  What I can add to this is a simple thought that I tell folks over and over agian. 

Don't ever let anyone tell you what you can or can't do.  Don't let anyone tell you what you should or should not do. 

DJ's, people, do what you like and like what you do.  If you are playing something cause you think you'll be "cool" or for any other reason other than you love it, its the wrong reason and you should just stop.

Be true to what you like.  Whether thats remixing the smurf's theme song, or playing the same record back to back to back.

:menthol:

If people feel what you feel, then you are set, if they don't, then enjoy your basement setup all the more.

:thumbsup:

Keep rocking.

 

[spiggums]

Originally posted by deejayclutch
So.  What I can add to this is a simple thought that I tell folks over and over agian. 

Don't ever let anyone tell you what you can or can't do.  Don't let anyone tell you what you should or should not do. 

DJ's, people, do what you like and like what you do.  If you are playing something cause you think you'll be "cool" or for any other reason other than you love it, its the wrong reason and you should just stop.

Be true to what you like.  Whether thats remixing the smurf's theme song, or playing the same record back to back to back.

:menthol:

If people feel what you feel, then you are set, if they don't, then enjoy your basement setup all the more.

:thumbsup:

Keep rocking.

 

:werd:

[Wickity]

Seriously though, I would rock the hell out of a smurfs remix..
or, Fraggle Rock.. I've actually tried to find that one believe it or not. :tarvis:

[deejayclutch]

Dude, you gotta remix the Fragle's.  They rock.  there has to be a music video also.

:specialed:

[Wickity]

I can't find a clean copy of the theme song *anywhere*

I would totally do it.. In fact, I believe I have a standing bet with 2 different friends about it.


I'll get the guy who did Tiga's puppet video to help in the MTV dept.. :eddie:

[buzzboy]

i wish some one would un invent the words GENRE and CLASSIFY

[Tigger]

*makes twirls in the air w/ magic wand*

done!

[the sex molesters]

uninventing those words would be to change human nature.... deal with it man....

[spiggums]

Originally posted by buzzboy
i wish some one would un invent the words GENRE and CLASSIFY

that would be a wonderful thing... hell, they don't have to go quite so far... just get rid of a few hundred subgenres and put things in much looser categories...

[method]

i hope every dj focuses on what THEY do best...some people are meant to cross boundaries, & others to delve deep into one thing.

[DJShaunCox]

I personally have added genres over time, and buy a little from each in my shopping. In 3 years, I have put out 3 cds:
DC to Paris - House
Crime Scene Sex - Breaks
Make Up Sex - Downtempo/hip hop

Im not sure what the next will be, i want to do a ragga themed cd, where i can mix up dnb, 2 step, reggae, etc.. mj cole -esque ya know? but who know, truly it will be whatever genre i get the most solid record selection first

[A.J. Inx]

I say...

1. Spin whatever your heart feels.
2. Keep it real and bring it. Don't be weak behind the decks...
3. Find true love in an MP3, Rekkid or CD...
4. Do not live up to the classifications, justifications and prejudices of others. Life imitates art. Love your art form, love your life form.


5. Eat a fortune cookie at least once a day. It's good for you. :D

[DJShaunCox]

Originally posted by spiggums


... just get rid of a few hundred subgenres and put things in much looser categories...

and get rid of speed garage entirely lol :thumbsup:

[Wickity]

I think the genres etc are very helpful when you're trying to talk abot the music. Getting rid of them wouldn't really help, because the need to talk about the specific music type would still be there.

However, I tihnk it's important for DJs, and any artist for that matter, to not really live by the definitions, but to just go with whatever you like.

[psion's gate]

Just make people feel that shit until they can't help but move a part of their body. Very simple.

peace
josh
PSION

[DelawareKids]

i think a little of all, i mean if I went to a club to hear aphrodite, i know its goin to be DnB, not house or trance set, But as a dj I love to mix other parts of records, like some pink floyd vocals in the back ground or a heavy bass line from someother non-dnb record

[hue-e]

Originally posted by A.J. Inx
I say...

1. Spin whatever your heart feels.
2. Keep it real and bring it. Don't be weak behind the decks...
3. Find true love in an MP3, Rekkid or CD...
4. Do not live up to the classifications, justifications and prejudices of others. Life imitates art. Love your art form, love your life form.


5. Eat a fortune cookie at least once a day. It's good for you. :D

This is the best responce I read in a while...seriously. bigups:thumbsup:

[Echelon]

I agree, that response rocks. My Praxis mix was critisized both ways for exactly this reason. Some didn't like the fact that it changed genres so many times from electro to breaks to house to tribal to trance. However, others loved it for exactly that reason. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I didn't really change my apporoach to spinning tho, the most important thing for me is to be in love with the songs I play and be ruthless about how in love with them I really am.

[GruvRegulator]

I think it's better to build a base of a specific genre and then branch out from there. but I guess at the ultimate end of the spectrum you could mix anything with anything; like classical and drum and bass. but I think nowadays ya can't just play one genre of music; ya gotta have variation.

[spiggums]

What I see happen to people who spin only one form of music all the time is they end up becoming these automatons behind the booth that don't look like they're having fun at all...

personally, I couldn't stand to be stuck in one corner...

but then, I'm Mister Variety ;)

[triune]

main genre... incroporate others.

must be done tactilly... like a set of dnb hard hittin and drop in some trance tunes will have me walk off the floor

[djliquidice]

I honestly believe it is best to be very well versed. I, like most jocks who spin house, spin trance. but i can also get down w/ breaks & D&B. Sticking to one genre is limiting yourself, IMHO.

[not applicable]

ive said it before and ill say it again...


im trying to master breaks.

i will drop other shit in, but i focus on breaks.

i dont think i want to be master of none.



but its really up to the dj.

choose what you want your sound to be and develop it.


what i dont think is good is not having a sound at all.


if you cant make someone remember you for your style than who are you?

youre a jukebox.

[original2k]

yeah one of my friends try to tell me to stick to one genre, i just think i keep a general sub genre like progressive and for the most part stay in the trance area, but too frequently pick up breaks and house as well, for the most part i guess as long as u don't actually clash genres in a set it's cool, but then again i don't think it really matters as long as u do it right, i picked option 2 cuz that's how i do it

[nativeprincess]

One should have a main genre that they are well known for and expected to drop, but then throw everyne off and mix it up. it also depends on where they were asked to play and the crowd that will be there. much luv!

[Liftedtrance]

ive said it before and ill say it again...


im trying to masturbate.



what do you need? a fucking manual?

[not applicable]

you know lifted fag,. you keep posting about me like this and people are gonna start to wonder wtf is wrong with you.

as well as if i ever meet you in person i am gonna run very fast in the opposite direction.

[badkitty3804]

Hey!

You two! Cut it the fuck out.

[Liftedtrance]

you know lifted fag,. you keep posting about me like this and people are gonna start to wonder wtf is wrong with you.

as well as if i ever meet you in person i am gonna run very fast in the opposite direction.

my car is pretty fast. i will catch up to, and run over you.

[Liftedtrance]

Hey!

You two! Cut it the fuck out.

did you do the funny little hand signal when you posted that?

[not applicable]

Hey!

You two! Cut it the fuck out.


excuse me, im with the dj.....

[badkitty3804]

excuse me, im with the dj.....Is your baby spinnin’?
Is it a packed dance floor?
Is your heart pumping? crying out for more?
Is the beat heavy? Could the boy be yours?
So move on over cuz you're the DJ's girl?

[not applicable]

Is your baby spinnin’?
Is it a packed dance floor?
Is your heart pumping? crying out for more?
Is the beat heavy? Could the boy be yours?
So move on over cuz you're the DJ's girl?


um i knew the first minute i met you there was something not right about you.

[badkitty3804]

I wish I could argue that.

[not applicable]

you were wearing a fucking chinese shirt for the love of the sweet black baby jesus.

[badkitty3804]

Don't you know that I'm 75% asian?

jeez.

[djliquidice]

ive said it before and ill say it again...
im trying to master breaks.
i will drop other shit in, but i focus on breaks.
i dont think i want to be master of none.

but its really up to the dj.
choose what you want your sound to be and develop it.
what i dont think is good is not having a sound at all.
if you cant make someone remember you for your style than who are you?
youre a jukebox.

I focus on people remembering me not just for a style but for having a good time while i'm playing. I'd never limit myself to one thing. To me, that's just silly. Continue to focus on one thing right now, if that's good for you.

Suppose this:
You master breaks, but don't play trance. And you spin after a trance DJ? What do you do? Turn the deck off and let it spin down? Do you echo off the other record or do you hit the stop button? I choose to mix out of the other Jocks record, of course if it is within reason.
Or for that reason, a house DJ is before you? What do you do?

I'd rather have experience w/ OTHER genres and be able to spin what ever wherever than being selective and isolating myself. EDM is full of diversity. I consider myself a master at trance and extremely versed in house. Breaks & DnB are my lowest levels of experience. However, I can spin out of just about anyone else's set. Naturally, you would have a bitch of a time spinning from 160+BPM DnB to 145BPM house, or what not, but i'm hoping all of you understand what i'm saying.

[not applicable]

i think id be able to survive for that one mix.

besides, yeah i might turn that shit off for a hot sec or do a spin back or something.


lets em know ok, im here now. fuck what was just on.

let me limit myself if you see it that way.

i dont see how the perfection of something can be limiting, but hey, what ever you think.

[djliquidice]

i think id be able to survive for that one mix.
besides, yeah i might turn that shit off for a hot sec or do a spin back or something.
lets em know ok, im here now. fuck what was just on.
let me limit myself if you see it that way.
i dont see how the perfection of something can be limiting, but hey, what ever you think.

Perfecting is NOT limiting yourself, but totally isolating yourself is. Also, doing the spin down method, to many DJs could be considered weak. But, continue doing it. It's obviously working for you. Also, keeping that "fuck everything else" attitude is working for you as well, isnt it?

[not applicable]

im not gonna change who i am because you dont like it.

so yeah fuck that.

i dont know who you answer to, but i answer to whoever shows up in my mirror.

how am i isolating myself?

its fun to start an argument based off shit you just made up.

thats a blast.

and i have yet to hear a dj who goes from dnb to house make a nice mix.

show me.

or maybe im weak.

you got some serious elistist bullshit going on for you, i dont know who stole your girlfreind and made you act like you do, but stfu.

hows that?

ahh much better.

[zLaYzbOiz]

For a DJ, I think it's better to find your own thing and master it. Some DJ's are good at doing various genres...but sticking to one is always better.

[not applicable]

thats exactly my point.

its different for every dj.

but im weak and limited i guess.

stfu.

and ANYONE can put on records and make people have a good time.

thats not what you should be measuring your fucking abilities as a dj on.

thats just fucking stupid.

how long do you mix your records together for liquidspice?

seriously?

all this shit talking is got me extremely interested in your mixes.

you must be god.

[Liftedtrance]

and ANYONE can put on records and make people have a good time.

thats not what you should be measuring your fucking abilities as a dj on.

thats just fucking stupid.



looks like someone has been visited by the idiot fairy again.

yes, that IS one of the very most important things you should
measure yourself as a DJ on.

you may not think so, but I'm talking about what myself and the
general DJ community think, as well as what the listeners/ partygoers who
are paying to listen think.

[not applicable]

my point is most people dont know a good mix from a bad one.

and most people dont know what the fuck is going on in the booth.

djs, yeah ok.

but just because people are having fun doesnt make you a good dj.

go to the thread you have bad taste in music.

just cause alot of people like it doesnt make it good.

you know, the nazis had pieces of flair they made the jews wear...

[spiggums]

For a DJ, I think it's better to find your own thing and master it. Some DJ's are good at doing various genres...but sticking to one is always better.
the absolute of "always better" in your statement here can only mean one thing...

you're wrong...

now if you were to say you've "found it's often better" that would be fine...

:neener:

[spiggums]

but just because people are having fun doesnt make you a good dj.

Here I'd disagree...

if people are having fun... then you're doing your job as a DJ... however you do it... if it works for the crowd it works for the crowd... so you know your audience... some audiences could give two shits about mixing (see the industrial crowd for example)...

[maynard]

i'm with bryan. it doesn't make you a good DJ, but it does make you a good entertainer

[not applicable]

ok. i see what youre saying.

and i guess i have to agree with you there.

but my point is that when i look at my own abilities, i dont think will people have a good time i think how difficult is this mix?

did i use every part of the record i wanted?

did it break where i wanted?

did i cut to that drum break correctly?

you see what im saying?

maybe its just that i dont play out enough.

the way i learned was by studying my own shit.

and as such thats how i measure how good i am.

against myself.

i dont know.

im limited and weak, so i probably make no sense.....

[spiggums]

i'm with bryan. it doesn't make you a good DJ, but it does make you a good entertainer
don't get me wrong... I'd much rather better myself technically as a DJ... but what makes a DJ good can vary crowd to crowd...

course, it could get broken down to a semantics issue ;)

skilled vs good, kinda thing :wink:

[not applicable]

yeah i think it could be argued either way.

back to my point in it depends on each dj.

some dj for one reason....


others for a totally different one.

and then everyone expects different things from djs.

ive heard people complain they werent nice enough.

or they werent dancing while they were djing.

it all depends.

but to call someone limited for sticking to a genre is just plain ignorant and mad arrogant and i would love to hear that mother fuckers mix and i will be more than happy to post an extremely detailed account of what i thought of it.

yeah.

thats right i said it.

holla.

[spiggums]

but to call someone limited for sticking to a genre is just plain ignorant and mad arrogant and i would love to hear that mother fuckers mix and i will be more than happy to post an extremely detailed account of what i thought of it.

It's in my sig file... have at it...

yes, I will say it... you stick to a genre you are limiting yourself... that is the VERY DEFINITION of limiting yourself...

[Liftedtrance]

don't get me wrong... I'd much rather better myself technically as a DJ... but what makes a DJ good can vary crowd to crowd...

course, it could get broken down to a semantics issue ;)

skilled vs good, kinda thing :wink:


spiggy is right.

if the crowd loves what you are doing, then you are a good DJ.
to deny that, I think, is to misunderstand what being a DJ is.

now if you want to say that the fact that a crowd likes you doesn't mean
you a "technically" good DJ, then ok.

but you can be technically the best DJ in the world and no one can give a fuck about
you or ever pay a cent to see you spin.

[Liftedtrance]

It's in my sig file... have at it...

yes, I will say it... you stick to a genre you are limiting yourself... that is the VERY DEFINITION of limiting yourself...

I somewhat disagree. limiting yourself, IMHO (of course) would
be to say, "I will only spin Florida breaks!" not to say "I will only
spin breaks!".

there is enough variation in breaks IMO that you can just spin "breaks"
but effectively not be limiting yourself.

[spiggums]

I somewhat disagree. limiting yourself, IMHO (of course) would
be to say, "I will only spin Florida breaks!" not to say "I will only
spin breaks!".

there is enough variation in breaks IMO that you can just spin "breaks"
but effectively not be limiting yourself.
it's still limiting yourself... that's not to say you can't be good with what you do...

and not to say that you can't rock out...

just saying that exclaiming "I only spin one genre" is narrowing down the full scope of what might be good...

[not applicable]

It's in my sig file... have at it...

yes, I will say it... you stick to a genre you are limiting yourself... that is the VERY DEFINITION of limiting yourself...


i was actually talking about liquid ice, but yeah.....



oh ok. thats the definition huh?

thanks, webster.



just because i dont play 80s clash fucking what ever doesnt mean im limited.

theres plenty of fucking differences in the breaks genre to not be limited.

come to think of it....................limited is having the SAME FUCKING BEAT in every one of your records.

THAT shit is limited.

im not calling out genres here, but i think we all know what im talking about.

i dont know how anyone else can tell someone how to dj.

fuck isnt that the whole point?

creativity self expression.

if youre not trying to say something when you dj, youre just playing tracks you think people will like and "have a good time" to.

you get enough drunk people together and you can have a good time to the funky chicken and the electric slide.

does this make you a good dj?

not in my fucking book.

a good dj has skills and makes me think how the fuck did they do that.

or god damn that shit was fucking sick.

not, oh i love this track.




im sorry, maybe im too cerebreal to be a good dj, then.

[Liftedtrance]

i was actually talking about liquid ice, but yeah.....

oh ok. thats the definition huh?

thanks, webster.

just because i dont play 80s clash fucking what ever doesnt mean im limited.

theres plenty of fucking differences in the breaks genre to not be limited.

come to think of it....................limited is having the SAME FUCKING BEAT in every one of your records.

THAT shit is limited.

im not calling out genres here, but i think we all know what im talking about.

i dont know how anyone else can tell someone how to dj.

fuck isnt that the whole point?

creativity self expression.

if youre not trying to say something when you dj, youre just playing tracks you think people will like and "have a good time" to.

you get enough drunk people together and you can have a good time to the funky chicken and the electric slide.

does this make you a good dj?

not in my fucking book.

a good dj has skills and makes me think how the fuck did they do that.

or god damn that shit was fucking sick.

not, oh i love this track.

im sorry, maybe im too cerebreal to be a good dj, then.

If you call making your ideas about DJing up which happen to differ from
everyone else's being too cerebral to be a good DJ, then sure, you are.

[Teknique]

it's still limiting yourself... that's not to say you can't be good with what you do...

and not to say that you can't rock out...

just saying that exclaiming "I only spin one genre" is narrowing down the full scope of what might be good...


first off, to each their own..s'all bout the :respekt: ....IMHO,i definately gotta agree. i'm a musical psychotic n listen to ALL types of shit.. if people played just one style back in the day we wouldn't have the music we have now.. styles clashed, blended, spawned new styles all from people pushig the envelope. stop pushing the envelope n progression stops in a sense.. bla bla bla with that but my point is this.. play what you feel, how u feel, when u feel while feelin the crowd.. s'all bout feelin n flowin. learnin how ta work everything you like, in a cohesive manner, n puttin somethin out there that's you....your style, your vibe, your feel...like somebody once said: "people ask me what record that was n i'm like this, this n a lil of this"...another great once said "i can mix smooth all night or i can fuck you on the dance floor." naaaaa mean? :69: :tarvis: :bandito:

[Jay Selway]

limiting yourself by genres is just that. Limiting.

[spiggums]

limiting yourself by genres is just that. Limiting.
woah... holy thread resurrection batman....

and I had almost forgotten about that fucking N/A cocksucker..

wheeee...

[Fetterbug]

fuck. i just voted thinking the poll was new.

[elad]

this thread is fuckin old

http://www.jaunted.com/files/1865/old_cellphone.jpg

[The Jezereck]

Seems these days most djs cross genres, very few still focus primarily on one genre.

[method]

damn jay way to bump a 2 year old thread.

[DjLantern]

damn I just voted too lol

I think i've hit 8 genre's in a set before

randy and I have done 10 too

[RAMIRO]

i think this one is obvious


find your niche.. that you love and can excel at..

but also dabble in others and be versatile!
the more versatile.. the better.. and more popular you will get!

[The Jezereck]

damn I just voted too lol

I think i've hit 8 genre's in a set before

randy and I have done 10 too
hehehe i remember that night in the rubik room

[CharlesM]

Then I know a lot of DJ's that are complete audiophiles and incorporate all kinds of music in their sets and in their normal listening.

:shrug:


Thats what ive been working on, its much more creative and entertaining to the crowd.

[Pseudo Society]

As big o techno elitist I am . . . I'm about to press the send button to purchase super duck breaks, Madlib, Peanut Butter Wolf, and Georgia Anne Muldrow. Gotta put this new TTM to use.

Oh, and to answer this revivoquiz: I like to be surprised. So long as it isn't a 'core' or end in "rance".