Poll: Breaks styles "played out"?

[The Logic Theorist]

Seems like most people who play breaks currently look down on "Funky Breaks" or "Big Beat" or "Acid Breaks" because those styles are "played out" and favor Nu Skool and a scant few like Electro (NOT Electroclash)

So I'm just curious how many people will still play a track in some of those mid 90's styles if it's a good track, or if dropping anything with an acidy bassline is just automagically wack.

I'm not talking about bringing back old tunes that are played out btw.

[badkitty3804]

I like all breaks :shrug:

Nu school
Old school
funky

If they're done well...:affection:

[Wickity]

I play anything... I use the distinct sub-genres to find sounds I'm interested in, but I'll play anything that's good...

I even have a Curtis Blow record, and Run DMC hanging around, should the need arise.

[bkidz]

Anything with a breakbeat will suffice. It's the DJ that is my focus, if they can't spin then whatever played will sound like shit.

As long as I can :breakdance: to it, it doesn't matter.

[The Logic Theorist]

Werd.. keep the votes coming as this will likely influence what my new demo sounds like.

[DNAgirl]

I tend to like Nu school and funky. But as long as the set is done right anything will sound good.

I don't like it when a dj plays the most popular of breaks...or allows the set to not go anywhere. That is just my preference though

I'm sure you'd do it right Phil.

[uberclkgtr]

Anything, as long as it sounds good. Variety is key. A whole set of distorted-bassline nu skool stuff is pretty damn boring, no matter how good the individual track are stand-alone.

[Light Touch]

I'm bored of the older stuff. That's just me tho. I'd like to hear a new vibe on the old school tip.

[uberclkgtr]

Originally posted by Light Touch
I'd like to hear a new vibe on the old school tip.

Me too. There's been some new stuff coming out along those lines. Elite Force, DJ KJ and Stirfry are producing some, just to name a few.

:onethumb:

[Light Touch]

I'll have to check those out -- got links?

[Wickity]

I've been finding some chemical stuff that sounds pretty good...

I don't remember names..

[uberclkgtr]

mm, no links, but the tracks i'm thinking of off-hand are

elite force - crew one [moonshine green]
dj kj - alive [808]
stirfry - lose control [whole 9 yards]

there are others, especially from elite force that came out sometime over the past couple weeks.

[Bioteknik]

i'm definately a fan of the old skool, done new plus throwing down an oldie but a goodie. last night on my webcast i dropped a tune from '93.. that shit was hotness!!

[uberclkgtr]

which tune was that chris? is the stream still around?

[switchstance]

I am up for anything good. There is nothing truly new these days, only recycled. So use the old with the new for something newER.

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

[The Logic Theorist]

In my set on destroyer.net I dropped Meat Beat Manifesto's "Helter Skelter". That shit is hot.

[breaks princess]

You should've added a no cheese option. Breaks are like fashion. If they are off (meaning cheesed out) even a tiny bit they are WAY off.

[breaks princess]

Also a "good if it's not a string of unrelated overplayed "popular" breaks tracks that doesn't take you anywhere"

[The Logic Theorist]

So I shouldn't drop 4 remixes of "Voices" in a half hour set?

[breaks princess]

lol. I'm thinkin no Phil.

[switchstance]

:haha:

[alwaysdancin]

Nobody plays enough breaks now a days and the really good breaks dj's dont get booked out as much as they use to I LOVE BREAKS and want morethan anything to see them make a come back in dc

[alwaysdancin]

Nice Avatar Breaks Princess

[Bioteknik]

we need more people like this guy around!!!

[The Logic Theorist]

What about Baltimore Club? Is that considred a "breaks style"? Is it "played out"?

[Light Touch]

I consider it breaks. And it's not played out. :D

[T-Sizzle]

i like the new skool shit
i dont like the old or funky shit as much because they dont seem to have as much substance , i mean listen to any hybrid or bt track and compare it to an icey track... which do you think has more substance, which took longer to produce?

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by logictheorist
In my set on destroyer.net I dropped Meat Beat Manifesto's "Helter Skelter". That shit is hot.

you also started with planet rock..

[The Logic Theorist]

lol that I did.. I'm taking it you're getting to check it out now? Don't rate the sloppy mixing.

[Bioteknik]

haha.. it's not as sloppy as my first time up on destroyer.. or the dirtbox set..

[DJ MELO]

Originally posted by logictheorist
What about Baltimore Club? Is that considred a "breaks style"? Is it "played out"?

Bmore breaks rocks it!!!:raveon: Feelgood used to drop one or two of these in his sets. I love spinning Bmore breaks at house parties.

[Kuro]

I have always hated the Baltimore shit.

[WhiteGirl3]

:tweak:
I like Funky and Cheesy Breaks! Asian People Rule!

[retail]

Originally posted by WhiteGirl3
:tweak:
I like Funky and Cheesy Breaks! Asian People Rule!

why god why?

[the sex molesters]

as the breaks genres go i'm a huge fan of acid breaks and electro breaks.... and i feel like a lot of nu breaks tracks are fairly lackluster.... i say play whatever sounds good, that's what i do.

[MichaelMaxim]

I'm onboard with Jathan... Almost everything is recycled... It's how you put it together.

I play a mix of Old School and Nu-School when I play... Never had any complaints yet...

Had a few tomatoes thrown at me... but hey! It's all pink in the middle, right?

-MAXIM

[switchstance]

Originally posted by MichaelMaxim
... but hey! It's all pink in the middle, right?

-MAXIM

That's what she said!

:smurf:

[Modern Breaks]

A good record is a good record. Whether it's brand new or ten years old. I like it all too. nu skool, funky, old school, whatever...as long as it has some element of funk.

There ARE alot of remixes coming out lately so it's kinda hard to not play them. They are out-numbering the amount of original tracks coming out. Everyone is just trying to make a quick buck.

peace


Modern Breaks available at www.modernmusic.us

also on wednesday december 3rd at sonar with Adam Freeland

wanna hear a sample or two?

http://www.kidzthatgroove.com/cdinfo/modernbreaks.htm
:tweak:

[uberclkgtr]

Originally posted by Modern Breaks
also on wednesday december 3rd at sonar with Adam Freeland

wait, freeland is going to be at sonar dec 3rd? and you're opening for him?

:raveon:

[psion's gate]

I like the breaks that have a big, heavy, but funky vibe.
some producers I've been diggin:
-JDS-
-Plumps
-soul of man
-Bushwacka
-vigi
-Pilgrem (always)
-Friendly (as remixer)
-Zinc (esp. "HELLO")
-Santos (hits and misses, but a few hits)
-Krafty Kutz
-Stanton Warriors
-Smithmonger
-anything by Steinki
-

[Juki]

i agree with jathan and michael, but in all honesty, i don't want to hear too many old tracks that have had their time already. a good mix might bring a few old tunes back but too many drives me nuts. i want to hear who is pushing the sound foward and trying to do nu things, even though there will always be rements of the old. that being said, there is still nothing like hearing a track you use to love to kick it to that comes out of nowhere. you're given that chance again to remember why you loved it so much to begin with. ;)

[Modern Breaks]

< wait, freeland is going to be at sonar dec 3rd? and you're opening for him? >

yep! go here:

http://www.sonarlounge.com/schedule.htm

peace

:thewave:

[Jungleluv09]

"ultimate break beats n shite right? Niggas still making money off of those shits, looping the same shits for a thousand years n shite right?" -Bobby Digital

[afxgod]

Breaks are not played out, They are not played enough.. We need to here more breaks dj's Good ones spin out at a nice venues more more

[unknown dj]

Originally posted by Light Touch
I'm bored of the older stuff. That's just me tho. I'd like to hear a new vibe on the old school tip.
See thats what i'm trying to bring to this shit.(scene)
(check funky but funky #1)

[trancefunk]

Originally posted by Dj SleepyHollow
i like the new skool shit
i dont like the old or funky shit as much because they dont seem to have as much substance , i mean listen to any hybrid or bt track and compare it to an icey track... which do you think has more substance, which took longer to produce?


well I have found that sometime the simplest break can rock the hell outta the club. It's all just how you play it.

[psion's gate]

very true. I feel that the more progressive tracks are most effective when played at a special part of the set. An entire set of prog breaks is boring IMO. I like it all as long as it is not cheesy, has a thin sound, or has no flow. Flow is most important with breaks.



Originally posted by trancefunk


well I have found that sometime the simplest break can rock the hell outta the club. It's all just how you play it.

[cleophite]

Originally posted by DNAgirl
I tend I don't like it when a dj plays the most popular of breaks...or allows the set to not go anywhere. :werd:

i've only heard one set where i really liked remixes of popular songs. i *really* agree with the second one there. a lot of djs let their sets just let their sets sit in a particular groove. baby anne has done this every time i've seen her -- she gets a good beat going, then lets the entire rest of her set stay there too. a constant progressive stream is usually :yawn:

i <3 almost any style of breaks though .. funky breaks, old, nu .. :drool:

[Bioteknik]

as much as i don't really like plod-step it definately has a place where it goes just right. a full set of any single one sound is pretty darn boring IMO, most people should be mixing it up.

[imri]

1. Good music is good music.
2. Variety is the spice of life.
3. Some tracks are so nice they had to be made twice.

go see Joe Koasek and Adam Freeland at Sonar!!! I'll definitely be there...

ps. My latest mix has old school, nu skool, nu skool remixes of old skool, etc etc... http://www.reflective.net/music/imri_live@Discobotz.mp3

[breaks princess]

Originally posted by DNAgirl
I don't like it when a dj plays the most popular of breaks...or allows the set to not go anywhere. That is just my preference though

This goes along with our convo about a month ago. The set we were discussing sounded like the "top 20" breaks hits off of someone else's chart. The tracks didn't mesh, and the programming was just all wrong.

Sometimes no matter how well the dj is mixing, it doesn't matter bc the set is all ADD and doesn't take you anywhere.

[rockyblue]

Originally posted by breaks princess


This goes along with our convo about a month ago. The set we were discussing sounded like the &quot;top 20&quot; breaks hits off of someone else's chart. The tracks didn't mesh, and the programming was just all wrong.

Sometimes no matter how well the dj is mixing, it doesn't matter bc the set is all ADD and doesn't take you anywhere.


:werd: i think i know what set you're refering to and i totaly agree.

[breaks princess]

:breaksP: :nod:

[uberclkgtr]

girls talking about breaks is HOT. :tarvis:

carry on.

[Wickity]

:werd:

[EBakes]

Im outta Raleigh, Nc... dnb seems to be on the frontline around here so of course I Njoy teh dark tunes a lil more. I also like the two step ukg, and sum proggy. Tha funk is in if there is no cheese (i.e. Stanton Warriors [aka PUNKS] and Freq Nasty]) I'd rather sever a limb than pay $ for a sharaz tune or anything of that ez-cheez nature... uk is where its at with the few stateside exceptions being IMO FactorE, Knick, and Trona. My personal favorites are Aquasky vs. MaStERblaSteR n teh autobots. We have the set from down here that was half live pa n half mix set from FACTORe n teh AUTOBOTS online somewhere... I'll pass on the info if interested holla. I'll make sure to make my lazy ass put a demotastic recorded set online one day... sum new tunes comin out soon too if ur n 2 the ol' sick n nastee....Ez

[EBakes]

Originally posted by trancefunk



well I have found that sometime the simplest break can rock the hell outta the club. It's all just how you play it.

Who dat is? Looks 2 b teh Charlie Silver to me! Rawleys own Ravetastic-funkOlicious-breaksnTRAN*Emasta!

heh tran*e... luv u Charles... we must finish that tune soon. Will be fukkin W!kKiD... running 2.5 at my house tho! :evilred:

call sum1

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by EBakes
Im outta Raleigh, Nc... dnb seems to be on the frontline around here so of course I Njoy teh dark tunes a lil more. I also like the two step ukg, and sum proggy. Tha funk is in if there is no cheese (i.e. Stanton Warriors [aka PUNKS] and Freq Nasty]) I'd rather sever a limb than pay $ for a sharaz tune or anything of that ez-cheez nature... uk is where its at with the few stateside exceptions being IMO FactorE, Knick, and Trona. My personal favorites are Aquasky vs. MaStERblaSteR n teh autobots. We have the set from down here that was half live pa n half mix set from FACTORe n teh AUTOBOTS online somewhere... I'll pass on the info if interested holla. I'll make sure to make my lazy ass put a demotastic recorded set online one day... sum new tunes comin out soon too if ur n 2 the ol' sick n nastee....Ez

:glcaroline:

[EBakes]

:throws up gang signs:

[Bioteknik]

oh yeah.. that means i'd like to hear that shit

[Light Touch]

Yah, Bakes, kick me some of that bizniz too.

[EBakes]

my isht or the set?

[Bioteknik]

both

[Light Touch]

Both.

[imri]

I love them breaks that go boom bap bip bip boom bam and then them basslines that go bwwrrrrooooowwwrrrr brrrrraaaawwwrrrr brroooooouugggghhhhh bwwwaaaaahhhhhhh...

that its right thurr

[EBakes]

pm me mailing addy if u dont wanna wait for it to be uploaded

[Buttercup]

Originally posted by afxgod
Breaks are not played out, They are not played enough.. We need to here more breaks dj's Good ones spin out at a nice venues more more

I agree. It seems like breaks are not as big as house is around here and there aren't as many breaks djs. I like all kinds of breaks, Miami breaks, nu skool too.

[Buttercup]

I just got some subs and I can't wait to listen to some breaks!

[Light Touch]

Originally posted by Buttercup
I just got some subs and I can't wait to listen to some breaks!

Me too. :thumbsup:

[spinal cracka]

Originally posted by Jungleluv09
&quot;ultimate break beats n shite right? Niggas still making money off of those shits, looping the same shits for a thousand years n shite right?&quot; -Bobby Digital

Bob Digi Shit be Criti

[o6drade9o]

jus keep it funky..

[doom]

they've been a member since 2002, this is their first post, and its a thread from 2003.

[daniella downs]

well...


acid is making a big comeback nowadays. i played an all nu acid set on exbc radio this past friday. IF ERIC HADNT FUCKED UP HIS BADDEST RECORDER, I'D POST IT.

lol.

but yeah, i love acid anything.

and i love that lots of producers are bringing it back now.

christ, lee coombs played a whole shitload of it at buzz last time.

[psion's gate]

acid is definately getting hot. The most original sounding, danceable breaks are coming outa Italy these days.
Old acid trax sound outdated, but the new sound is really tight, and different from everything else out.
I'm tired of bassline, except for a few things off of hardcore beats and deepcut. Nuskool really is becoming washed out with remixes, and boots...Yet, I'm always refreshed when I hear a whole bunch of great stuff out all the sudden. It happens about every 3 weeks. Some of the producers out there are really hitting on a great sound, particularly some new producers putting out housey stuff that has a great funck/acid vibe.

[Wickity]

IF ERIC HADNT FUCKED UP HIS BADDEST RECORDER, I'D POST IT.


Does this mean that none of our sets were recorded for posterity?

Or my website?

[Shakey]

I produce acid breaks. i just finished a track the other day actually. Click in my sig where it says "download my music" and then go to the one that says "James Bond Espionage Secret Agent Incognito Type Shit". It's reminiscent of Squarepushers style of acid breaks. Maximum broken beats!!

[daniella downs]

Does this mean that none of our sets were recorded for posterity?

Or my website?


sadly, that would be what that means.

[maynard]

back from the dead thread like whoa

anyways, yeah, the nuskool breaks...make them stop plz.

well...most of it anyway...

[The Logic Theorist]

This thread takes me way back with you guys.. *sniffle*

[Aerobum]

Good djs can mix it up and it will sound fresh.

Fact is, I don't care where it's from. If it rocks, it rocks. And that can include some FL tunes as well.

~Aero

[Prototype2]

when I first got into breaks I was really only into the Florida style, but as the years have gone by I've found myself becoming more and more intrigued by the Nu Skool styles that are coming out of the woodwork right now. I think they have some seriously hot shit coming out now. and Nu Skool breaks can be very funky, and these are the tracks that just blow the dance floor up. I love all breaks but I just think the Nu Skool style is getting ahead in technical abilities. Alot of the Florida/funky breaks DJ's are doing some really amazing things with that sound too though and I still love listening to the new stuff by Sharaz, Magic Mike, Icey and the rest of them. Breaks are just good PERIOD. :cheer:

[Aerobum]

when I first got into breaks I was really only into the Florida style, but as the years have gone by I've found myself becoming more and more intrigued by the Nu Skool styles that are coming out of the woodwork right now. I think they have some seriously hot shit coming out now. and Nu Skool breaks can be very funky, and these are the tracks that just blow the dance floor up. I love all breaks but I just think the Nu Skool style is getting ahead in technical abilities. Alot of the Florida/funky breaks DJ's are doing some really amazing things with that sound too though and I still love listening to the new stuff by Sharaz, Magic Mike, Icey and the rest of them. Breaks are just good PERIOD. :cheer:

Werd. I think the three guys you mentioned from FL are the only people who can even afford to stay in business anymore because it's gone all UK breaks pretty much. A lot of stateside guys are giving up from what I can tell. I don't think people are giving domestic jocks/producers much of a fair chance anymore because all we seem to see are the overseas guys. Not to name names but I think *some* UK acts are just plain overhyped. But hey everyone seemed to want Member's Only jackets once, too. Hopefully it'll get a little more balanced soon.

~Aero

[daniella downs]

Werd. I think the three guys you mentioned from FL are the only people who can even afford to stay in business anymore because it's gone all UK breaks pretty much. A lot of stateside guys are giving up from what I can tell. I don't think people are giving domestic jocks/producers much of a fair chance anymore because all we seem to see are the overseas guys. Not to name names but I think *some* UK acts are just plain overhyped. But hey everyone seemed to want Member's Only jackets once, too. Hopefully it'll get a little more balanced soon.

~Aero

i agree and disagree at the same time. a lot of the stateside producers don't make the kinda stuff that the uk guys make.

take me for example...i like funky ass breaks with a kick to them, that sound is made by 29505 uk producers.

i can prolly name like 1 or 2 us producers who make that sound.

hence why i personally want to see the uk heads.

i do agree that some of them are incredibly overhyped. i'll name a name. adam freeland. the man has finally this year put out a track i like, and it's not even his originally, it's his remix of infusion's "better world" . beyond that tho, i cannot stand him.

[uberclkgtr]

...and the original of "better world" kicks ass too, so you know who to thank for that track being good. :wink:

i think breaks styles one doesn't hear enough of are the kind without the big bass kick on the 1 and 3-ish beats, i.e. the sort of stuff that resembles drum n' bass beat patterns, but just slowed down a bit. i like that stuff and i wish more producers would make it. the more complexity in the beat patterns, the better.

[Aerobum]

I understand what you're saying Ian but at the same time maybe the reality is the breaks world is just too small to support various styles - something I think makes house so widespread. With house there are just so many styles and there are enough people out there to support them. The FL sound is a style to me nothing more and nothing less. It's a style like Chicago house is a style or filtered house is a style. Just imagine if everyone producing house started making trance all of the sudden. I don't see Richie Hawtin tossing out his sound to become a trance wannabe because all the kids think it's the cool thing to be right now. This is exactly what's happening with stateside breaks, though. So we have that sound from over there and now this copycat sound over here. It's too much of the same sounding shit. It's also the reason I haven't bought a 12" in months. Domestically I'll grab the occasional Fixx record or Sharaz record but Fixx's stuff sounds all the same lately and Sharaz only seems to put out wax when he's in the mood to release something. That's about the extent of it with a Fingerlickin, Supercharged or TCR release thrown in to spice up my crate. I like everything, but there isn't so much "everything" like there used to be.

The popular fads will wax and wane like they always have and always will.

~Aero

i agree and disagree at the same time. a lot of the stateside producers don't make the kinda stuff that the uk guys make.

take me for example...i like funky ass breaks with a kick to them, that sound is made by 29505 uk producers.

i can prolly name like 1 or 2 us producers who make that sound.

hence why i personally want to see the uk heads.

i do agree that some of them are incredibly overhyped. i'll name a name. adam freeland. the man has finally this year put out a track i like, and it's not even his originally, it's his remix of infusion's "better world" . beyond that tho, i cannot stand him.

[psion's gate]

what happened to the kind of breaks that came out on exist dance? Some of the dubstep is in that territory. I really miss the west coast sound too. It was kinda trippy and subliminal, but electronic and danceable too. Most of my favorite tracks have that sound: Bushwacka: toolz, Simply Jeff: Left hook, Bassbin twins anything. And then the stuff like meat beat manifesto, freaky chakra, bahamat, etc...That stuff was just Original.