Uk breaks or US breaks?

[napptownrecords]

What do you think? Who has the beats and who gets the meat?
Or what style do you prefer in lamemans terms?

[the code]

i dont really listen to that much slow dnb but from what i heard i prefer uk breaks most of the time...

[breaks princess]

I'm gonna have to go with UK here.

[DAVEILL1]

Does it matter

[Bioteknik]

not really.. Kemek the Dope Computer, Son of the Electric Ghost, E.V.A.C. all american producers who are putting out some quality ass beats. but for the most part those chaps on the other side of the pond do know how to produce better.

[Jimmy 4]

I would have to say it all really depends on what sound you are looking for, as far as the quality of the production UK is deff on top of things, but It seems alot of the same labels just pump out tracks without any time put into them.

[Juki]

this is a no brainer for me.......UK all the way!

[mighty defcon1]

AUSTRALIAN BREAKS!
infusion
Kid kenobi
Q45
EK
Bass Kleph
Purple ***** bootlegz
....


oppsss..sorry that wasnt the ?

OK then...flordia breaks!!!! ;-)

[Juki]

hahahahah duncan you have emerged from hibernation!!!

yes yes, i suppose the breaks from OZ have merit too!

[Ecclecticat]

Originally posted by DAVEILL1
Does it matter

It matters if you like breaks!

[Ecclecticat]

UK breaks are much better than the US - we should stick to representin' the ill jungle sound.

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by Ecclecticat
It matters if you like breaks!

If you like breaks then you'll like what's good, no matter where it comes from.

[bassfix101]

breaks are breaks....but UK does take the cake when it comes to the breaks w/MC comp.

[Advocatus]

Ok, i might get some shit for this, but when Icey and Rennie were at Buzz dc, my opin. was that Rennie stomped Iceys ass. Sorry Icey.

[Samsara]

I gotta say US breaks....specifically anything out of Florida...there's just something I love about that music

[Jimmy 4]

Originally posted by Advocatus
Rennie stomped Iceys ass. Sorry Icey.

Yeah, thats really no contest if you ask me, I dont believe I have ever been impressed with Iceys djing ablitlies

[Ecclecticat]

Originally posted by Heartwork
If you like breaks then you'll like what's good, no matter where it comes from.


:werd:

[trypnballz]

UK all the way most def
UK:kick:US

[BettyBoop]

UK

[DJMarcO]

Originally posted by napptownrecords
What do you think? Who has the beats and who gets the meat?
Or what style do you prefer in lamemans terms?

I feel that UK producers have been more innovative in the last few years. Not to say that the US doesn't have any flava left, it's just harder to come by.....

[Advocatus]

Any Genre from UK kicks ass! It all has that "alternative" feel to it.

[RickyRicardo]

Does "UK" include UK Garage?....hehehehe

UK breaks are always going to be one step ahead of us. We may have created the breakbeat...but it was them who examined it, refined it, destroyed it, reassembled it, and then made a fucking movement out of it.

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by RickyRicardo
Does "UK" include UK Garage?....hehehehe



as long as it doesn't include all that r+b remix vox top 40 stuff

[not applicable]

i dont care where it comes from.

i listen to it.

if i feel it, i feel it. if i dont i dont.

too easy.

[Aerobum]

I think it's just a phase for now. I like all breaks and I've heard some good music coming from overseas but I've also heard some pure fucking garbage. But UK garbage for some reason doesn't get treated like even halfway decent US breaks. People tend to give the worst UK stuff a free pass just because it's from the UK. I think the perception is much bigger than the reality IMO. I'll spin anything that moves the floor. Kinda silly for a good dj to limit himself.

There are some awful rap boots coming from overseas. Worse than a lot of music people pick on from Florida. Again it gets a free pass for whatever silly reason. People are sheep I guess. That Gimme The Light bootleg was fucking annoying and there have been others.

So my vote is for US breaks because I just can't be cliche.

Aero~

[KiKiXOXO]

http://www.flagfocus.info/worldflags-large/flagpole-UK.gif

UK all the way!
:raveon:

[Aerobum]

i listen to it.



:werd:


Yeah but a lot of peeps don't. They just play what their peers think is "cool".

Aero~

[Bioteknik]

yeah, sure they don't.

people play what they like. if you play what you think your peers thinks is cool, you are a fucking toolbox. and honestly there aren't any people that I know who are like that.

[not applicable]

i dont like playing records other people play.

i really dont.




i dont know, i mean, i just look for a certain sound and if it doesnt have it, i dont buy it.

i cant afford that many records as it is and ive got to make the ones i do get count.

i dont care who makes the track or where they come from.


if its bumpin, ill rock it.



otherwise, i dont.







theres been plenty of "big tunes" that ive found annoying and cheesy as fuck.

[Bioteknik]

and for the record, I like that sean paul bootleg, but then again i don't bash the domestic guys much either.

[not applicable]

i think it all just comes down to what you like.


people like this, people like that.


its really not that big of a mystery.

[Bioteknik]

a dose of reality isn't what we needed here. we're supposed to get in a us vs uk flamewar.

[not applicable]

oh my fault.........




breaks suck.



psy-trance ownz.

[bkidz]

10 Years ago when I was a noob in the scene, I thought Icey was :dabomb:.

Later on, when my eyes were opened to Rennie and Adam I knew I had been duped by the forever monotonous sound of florida breaks. I'm not downing the style, but seriously Icey has been spinning the same beats since '94.

[Bioteknik]

all bow down to the psy-trance.

[not applicable]

i actually have stepped back from the fla sound a little.

i was in fla, so it was a huge influence.


but now, im getting into some different type of shit.

i guess what you like changes.


i dont know if one is better than the other.





except psytrance.


it is the best.

[Bioteknik]

10 Years ago when I was a noob in the scene, I thought Icey was :dabomb:.

Later on, when my eyes were opened to Rennie and Adam I knew I had been duped by the forever monotonous sound of florida breaks. I'm not downing the style, but seriously Icey has been spinning the same beats since '94.
well when I saw him in 2003, he actually spun most of the same records he used on his essential mix. I thought that was kinda lame.

[Modern Breaks]

that is really hard to say. it sort of goes in waves with me. right now it's the uk breaks bringing it. One american to definitely keep your eyes and ears on is DJ Tzeech in Baltimore

modern

:angel:

[bkidz]

i actually have stepped back from the fla sound a little.
i was in fla, so it was a huge influence.
but now, im getting into some different type of shit.
I guess what you like changes.
i dont know if one is better than the other.



Your mixes are pretty phat and you don't show a tendancy toward any one style of breaks. . . . you should keep it that way. . . . :thumbsup:

[joenice]

Does "UK" include UK Garage?....hehehehe.
I would hope so.

as long as it doesn't include all that r+b remix vox top 40 stuff
That's definitely not included.....that's more "garage" than breakstep.

UK breaks are always going to be one step ahead of us. We may have created the breakbeat...but it was them who examined it, refined it, destroyed it, reassembled it, and then made a fucking movement out of it.
For the most part, UK music has always been ahead of the US. With the sound that I'm pushing with the rest of the 2 Charming Crew, there are producers that pop up every couple of months making BIG TUNES. There are a couple stateside....literally, a couple.

One can take this argument and apply it to rock music.

bands from the UK - The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Police, Cream, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Def Leppard

bands from the US - Grateful Dead, Aerosmith, The Doors, Kiss, Van Halen, Guns n' Roses, Black Crowes, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue.

Which set of bands are you gonna choose....most of us would take the UK bands.

[CharlesM]

What is it with ppl always wanting something far far away.... US breaks rock.......

[Aerobum]

US breaks do rock.

Aero~

[John Hyperion]

Whichever side gets past the "Don't Stop, Get It Get It", "rip off a house/trance/hip hop song and drop an 808 under it" sound, and "generic bassline after bassline with no regard for melodies" sounds first.

[iminxtc]

Originally posted by DAVEILL1
Does it matter


It matters if you like breaks!



im gonna haft to go with DAVE1LL1.. whoever the fuck u are.
breaks suck, except old skool breaks, in that case it still doesnt fucking matter.

[iminxtc]

wheres the who cares bitch option?

[not applicable]

how about the stfu, you little kid you dont know shit option?











breaks own.

[Modern Breaks]

Originally posted by DAVEILL1
Does it matter
breaks suck, except old skool breaks, in that case it still doesnt fucking matter.

if you don't like breaks, while are you even following this post? we like breaks, and that is all that matters

modern

:goawaymarcus:

[Bioteknik]

Originally posted by DAVEILL1
Does it matter






im gonna haft to go with DAVE1LL1.. whoever the fuck u are.
breaks suck, except old skool breaks, in that case it still doesnt fucking matter.
your whole I hate breaks act is boring me.

[Bioteknik]

if you don't like breaks, while are you even following this post? we like breaks, and that is all that matters

modern

:goawaymarcus:
oh, miss funk fraggle has been known to dance to breaks, i guess she's trying to be witty? :shrug:

[psion's gate]

i dont really listen to that much slow dnb but from what i heard i prefer uk breaks most of the time...

This comment is REALLY amuzing.

[psion's gate]

My answer was definately UK. Most of the US breaks I hear are either weak production/pressing, or uninteresting. I'm not one for pop or bootlegs (unless their nuskool remixes of old acid tunes like "Freak", or "Kubik".) It seems that most US producers now are fucused on a really disturbingly simple beat and a catchy melody. I'd be really happy to hear US breaks go back in the direction of old West coast breaks that Dj Dan used to spin. That stuff was much more musicly interesting yet still had that hip hop funk edge.

[Chef Roy R Dee]

If you like breaks then you'll like what's good, no matter where it comes from.
TRUE!
But I've gotta go with the US on this one!

[Chef Roy R Dee]

My answer was definately UK. Most of the US breaks I hear are either weak production/pressing, or uninteresting. I'm not one for pop or bootlegs (unless their nuskool remixes of old acid tunes like "Freak", or "Kubik".) It seems that most US producers now are fucused on a really disturbingly simple beat and a catchy melody. I'd be really happy to hear US breaks go back in the direction of old West coast breaks that Dj Dan used to spin. That stuff was much more musicly interesting yet still had that hip hop funk edge.
Hell Yeah!
"Tribute to James Brown" baby!
That tape is infamous!

[DaleS]

Hell Yeah!
"Tribute to James Brown" baby!
That tape is infamous!

One of the best mixtapes ever. :bowtodaking:

[Chef Roy R Dee]

One of the best mixtapes ever. :bowtodaking:
INDEED!

[DAVEILL1]

This shit is funny. I post "does it matter" and by the end of the thread I'm getting heat.

UK breaks V's US Breaks what a fucking joke. It's music people not a competition

[DJMarcO]

AMEN!!!!

My answer was definately UK. Most of the US breaks I hear are either weak production/pressing, or uninteresting. I'm not one for pop or bootlegs (unless their nuskool remixes of old acid tunes like "Freak", or "Kubik".) It seems that most US producers now are fucused on a really disturbingly simple beat and a catchy melody. I'd be really happy to hear US breaks go back in the direction of old West coast breaks that Dj Dan used to spin. That stuff was much more musicly interesting yet still had that hip hop funk edge.

[Dainbramage]

Werd! I dig some of the UK stuff these days, but I miss that chunky, funky west coast sound circa 94-97.

[DJMarcO]

A couple times a year we have these parties out here in SF called "Alumni" - it's typically headliners like: Garth, Jeno, Dutch, DJ Dan, etc.

They play music all circa '96 or before...kinda like the Buzz oldskool parties, but WAY better, and WAY cheaper - never more than $5. Fucking SICK.

Werd! I dig some of the UK stuff these days, but I miss that chunky, funky west coast sound circa 94-97.

[DJMarcO]

Not sure if these links still work, but in case they do - they're links to some of the Alumni sets from the past year or two:

http://cerebrum.dnalounge.com:8001/audio/2004/01-17-00000.m3u

Alumni w/ Jeno, Garth, Markie and Felix The Dog:
http://www.rawheaven.org/~ben/music/alumni.garth.jeno.markie.mp3

Alumni 2 w/ Doc Martin, dj Spun, Markie, Dutch:
http://www.rawheaven.org/~ben/music/alumni.dutch.markiemark.djspun.docmartin.mp3

[kindofblue272]

I would hope so.


That's definitely not included.....that's more "garage" than breakstep.


For the most part, UK music has always been ahead of the US. With the sound that I'm pushing with the rest of the 2 Charming Crew, there are producers that pop up every couple of months making BIG TUNES. There are a couple stateside....literally, a couple.

One can take this argument and apply it to rock music.

bands from the UK - The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Police, Cream, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Def Leppard

bands from the US - Grateful Dead, Aerosmith, The Doors, Kiss, Van Halen, Guns n' Roses, Black Crowes, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue.

Which set of bands are you gonna choose....most of us would take the UK bands.

UK music has always been ahead of the US? bullshit. American musicians invented jazz, blues, rock, disco, house, and techno.

. . . funk, soul, hip-hop . . .

[infectedskazi]

uk ftw

[5l1mm]

not much of an opinion ther, but i def like UK hiphop more than US hiphop

[emoney]

I'm loving the US scene lately. Not necessarily the breaks scene which has just felt too provincial... I've been getting much more into the party music scene, which basically means anything from mashups to hip hop to booty music to regional music (baltimore, miami, whatever...) to good electro, breaks, dnb, whatever. If it moves it moves units. Hot hot hot things are coming out of Baltimore, Philly, and New York, and some ears in the UK are starting to perk up. "Pawrty music" scene in the US kills the UK's hands down.

UK still wins in all of the "rave" genres though. The output just isn't there in the US, despite good shit still coming out. I mean, hey, I like music that's good -- period -- but most of what I pick up when I buy house, breaks, electro, dnb comes from the UK. I think that's more just that those genres are more widely accepted and have a bigger following. Because it comes from the UK doesn't make it better.

And US Hip Hop > UK hip hop.

People just say they like UK hip hop cause its cool to like things from the UK. I live in the UK and I can hardly give you any other names than Dizzee/Roll Deep and Lady Sov... maybe I don't get out enough, but US hip hop is King, and I can't really imagine it any other way. And that goes for dirty south throw away crunk shit to educated stuff from people like Talib Kweli...